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Randolph is a big meh to me. His pass protection was horrible and a big reason why our O stank last season. See a massive difference changing him out for Broxton already. Collaros has a chance to get his eyes downfield and get the ball out without having to scramble every drop.

The weird thing is they think they are simpatico. Like there's no wrinkle in the fabric at all. But since McManus took over the US side we've barely been able to find even average CFL players. Development is part of it too, but the American guys in most positions are kind of sink or swim. You're ready to play, or you're not. We have no DL, no receivers, not really any DB's (we've been recycling other teams cuts and vets they are moving on from), no real QB prospects out of the US, no LB's making plays, a couple OL but mostly guys recycled from other teams camps again, since McManus took over on the US side. It should not be this hard to find DL who can play in this league. We should never go from having an average guy in there to being absolutely dummied when we have to change him out (I'd say that's what it looked like going from Dixon to Fletcher, combined with the shift of Ceresna taking more edge reps) for another American guy.

Yep, though in this case I think it’s the rest of the front office as well. KW has never been a main source of imp talent. No doubt he does some work on that, but by far the least of his contributions. Maybe that’s a problem, but he’s always been mainly a canadian scout. For my money, he does a great job of evaluating ni talent. Now our priorities in the draft have been a bit of a mess. but we are still doing pretty well with ni talent, atleast on D and the ol. The us scouts have not done a good enough job, not by a long shot.

Regarding the rule changes for next year: in those instances where a field goal was attempted from the 40 yard line or out, how many of them would have resulted in a third down gamble instead of a punt next season? Maybe 1? The others are.punts for sure. Osh punts every time. This really feels like an intentional way to force us into 4 downs when scoring decreases.

Thats assuming he wanted to be kept around. Some guys want to actually play and not wait around for an injury. Especially when they know they are starting quality players and there's a need on multiple teams. Why would Randolph stay? Mos say said on the coaches show they offered multiple PR spots to players who chose not to stay. Guys bet on themselves sometimes. And as others have mentioned, the Offense is in no way a problem. Unless Randolph can play DT I dont see how his presence changes anything.

My point is that he’s not a ratio advantage when we start more than we need to to begin with.

Daniels is a Canadian so he is a ratio advantage. Yes we could have found a better import in that role but it would have cost us a starter elsewhere.

He was in as a blocker a bunch. They used a lot of protection schemes.

The scouting thing is part accurate and part such a straw man. It has nothing to do with “who have we cut that had gone on to be good elsewhere” because if you wanna play that silly game, include negotiation lists too. Until we evaluate guys in camp better and change our approach, we still really have no idea what side of the coin it is. I do think Rigmaiden was a huge loss for us but I also think it’s unfair to place all of the blame on scouting when we bring these guys to camp and then sometimes they don’t even see an opportunity to touch the field. The whole process is a bit flawed and honestly, I think the biggest disconnect is that our coaching staff and front office don’t really even seem aligned on what they value or what they’re looking for. as an example … what does the process for deciding to draft a guy like Daniels look like? Was that a scouting department preference? Was it an ask for that kind of player by Condell? Something in between? At what point? Because there’s absolutely no reason we couldn’t have found an American to fill the exact same role, probably with a better pedigree and skill set and Daniels offers us no advantage ratio wise, but did we even look? Stevie Rocker came to camp for free lunches for a month, you’re telling me it wouldn’t have been better to see if we could find a big American fullback/tight end type instead?

Did our much coveted tight end even play?

As always its both MOS and KW. Booch outlined several MOS questionable decisions. GC has mentioned that there are several guys KW didn't sign due to $ and JBR mentioned that our US scouting is subpar which ultimately falls on KW. I'll throw in Wade because he's ultimately responsible for MOS+KW.

So...keep the 3 best tackles around..what if one goes down Also have the ability to make tough choices.. keep randloph where he was..slide broxton to LT and u could.have 6 gamed Bryant..Nationalized him and "start" him and then sub out with Randoplh..many ways If one our tackles goes out with season ender..we hooped He would have been fine at RG too seeing as we had the fixation witj 3 American oline guys...it was pretty much predetermined we were running 3 Canadian receievers before camp even opened...regardless if we had the talent to do so...even when some American rookies outperformed the incumbent Canadians...they were thrown on the PR..Another case of better player sitting for inferior...make that makes sense when its not even needed to make ratio....

Kelly over others on roster Kolo over any pylon we had JT over many a DT The Marine Corcoran over Clercius last yr...I dont care if ZC was annoyed..he doesn't pick the roster Sam Hurl Kramdi over Griffin Korn...just being on a roster Thats just off top my head Sure the ownus is on Walters but he isnt out scouting guys..he just signs what the scouts bring to him...he looks at cis talent certainly and we've missed on a lot of picks..hit on a few Guys tho cut in camp who never really got a shot cause it was predetermined we were going with the old vet..thats on Osh...and who knows what they could have done..I sure that happens elsewhere too and rarely u grab an other teams tc castoff right away until you exhausted your own work first. Funny tho most of the guys we had rostered and moved on from before seem to land elsewhere and play well..and play for a while...this season alone we seen a ton of it Again..I agree its a collective effort...but end of day its one guy picking the roster..and making the decisions A collective coaching effort is coaches suggesting...not demanding and having final say...its the HC and if he sees a coach leaning to a lesser player he needs to have the ability to say...Nope , not happening A HC letting a assistant coach or a meddling owner pick his roster...is on fast track to unemployment...or middling success

We have major problems with American scouting. We basically played an all-American DL with Lawson in there about 2/3 of the time, and zero pressure at any stage of the game. Reese had one pressure, Jones got a sack on a delayed blitz. BLM was not touched or moved off his spot otherwise. We're playing the guys who showed they belonged in camp/pre-season. The results are pretty bad on D. Fletcher, Dixon, Jenkins have all produced squat through 2 games. Fletcher in particular was just getting bullied by the interior of Hamilton's OL. They were opening gaps wider than the 401 when we put Ceresna on the edge and Fletcher in double A with Lawson or 3 tec.

Some people I think forget the C in cfl stands for Canadian and you have to dress so many and start so many, we aren’t the only team who starts more than necessary. Going on and on about Osh and his talent evaluation is insanity. It’s a never ending cycle of I know more than O’Shea does cuz I said so, Osh has his favourites and always will, like most of you don’t have your favourites? Who exactly is O’Shea favouring now? If O’Shea has a problem it’s that he gives his coordinators to much say, that much is obvious. Everyone wants to make it black and white like O’Shea is deciding who is on O D and special teams but it’s been said by every one of the damn coaches that it’s a collaborative effort yet it’s oshea . It’s just ridiculous already. The O and special teams are rolling, that’s Condell and miller tho, d sucks, that’s cuz oshea cuz oshea oshea oshea. Like really. Just repeating things over and over and over. Same old ****. More ppl used to partake in discussions on this site, god I wonder why they don’t anymore.

Or maybe Kyle Walters doesnt have the eye for talent. No one can name one player that MOS didn't play that has gone onto being an above average player in this league. Im serious...name one decent player we lost that wasnt SMS. That's on KW. If MOS after 10 years was playing less talented players certainly one name could be easily found. NAME ONE!

Maybe Eli is out due to injury and gets his job back. However, it's also possible he isn't very good. Let's hope for the first one. I miss Kenny Lawler too

Offence has dramatically improved over last year. Our problem in our loss this week was the D. I could give a crap what Wheatfall and Sterns did this week. They both had big games for us too..problem was they only produced 2 or 3 of them in a season. I'll call letting them go a mistake when they actually put up a decent season not just show the occasional flash. They were two guys that the vast majority of this forum wanted gone. What's changed? Broxton is why

Right cuz the o is the problem after 2?weeks. Ppl be insane after 1 loss.

Did we not sign White and Nield?

We get rid of Wheatfall & Stearns but we don't sign two players to replace them. That sure seems to be the way the team conducts its free agency. Even keeping one of those 2 around would have made a difference. Or spending the money on another starting receiver that was available in free agency but instead we chose not to. All I know is we have a starting boundary receiver with 26 receptions for 385 career yards & just 2 TDs receiving before this season started . When I see those Wheatfall & Stearns playing very well elsewhere all it tells me that in the coaches meetings last season, we had Hogan telling O'Shea & everyone else in that room that it wasn't subpar coaching that made them play at such a craptacular level. It was the players fault.

And if they had, we probably would never have heard of them.

It seems to me that the whole game is being played better and at a much higher tempo than either of the two games the Bombers have played so far.

If we want a 12-13 win offense we need a vertical threat other than Demski. Like a guy who is 6'1+ who is reliable and knows how to use his body to make space to win contested balls, maybe useful in screen game/bit of YAC threat on the edge. If we really wanted to stay Canadian on O, could have thrown a pile of cash at a guy like Brissett to pair with Nield. I personally would have spent all the free agent money on O. You win with O in this league. Ceresna is nice to have but you need to find the next batch of those guys on rookie deals, not pay him 230,000 or whatever it is. It's nice if you can spring guys like Wilson or White wide open schematically but there's going to be days when it's a slog to move the ball too and you just need a guy you can put on the boundary, force man by formation and have that guy win his route where the QB can put it out there and the guy can go make a play without that QB needing to hit the head of a pin with an perfectly accurate pass.

I can't help but think both of these offenses would rip us a new one.