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Tbh, I get letting all 3 walk. I would’ve done the same. I only would’ve given lawler more when the cap went up. Those decisions look bad in hindsight, but they were rough over pays. Just like Fords over pay in edmonton looks bad now. I do agree all decisions reflect on the gm. Even if they were sound choices at the time. The biggest damning decision by walters, is not going out and actually replacing those guys with quality. Even if you can’t replace all those spots with similar guys or better, pick one or two and spend to replace with an appropriate level free agent. Trade and recruit for the rest. Instead we ended up trying to fill all those and many other spots with just recruiting. Which failed miserably. (and the even worse quantity over quality fa spend on wrs) Mos put us in a position where the recruits didn’t even get good development or chances to showcase. No one’s hands are clean. I think walters has the ability to be better going forward, I don’t have faith in mos to improve. Especially given his coaching staff choices. Aside from JY, it’s been too many bad replacements.

Maybe a case could be made for kids who played cis ball, but the borderline canadians who played ball in the states aren’t different from imp rookies. Which I mean we took a db out of what division 3 a few years ago and the falcons seems to think it isn’t a problem after he started his whole rookie year. We started many a rookie canadian ol in the first year here as well with mos. We started corcoran in the play offs too. As Peterson took over in his first pro game then started the next what 2? Did pretty good too. Im not saying you’re wrong about what he said, I fully believe he said that and even believes it. It just doesn’t match the reality of what he’s done. And what’s worked tbh.

Very deservedly so. Betts wins modp and rourke mop. How often has both those awards gone to canadians and not the same person? Happy for yoshi wining a mol award. It’s interesting that the rider bias in the media along with a gc birth didn’t get them much for awards. Als get no major awards and riders get one major one minor. Pretty odd for the cfl. That said I think they got the awards pretty right

He’s got above average size and athleticism for an ni G. 6’3 n change, 315 but really lean at that weight. Hes got a great frame for playing interior ol. Hes a bit of an athletic outlier by ni ol standards. Faster and more explosive than most interior guys up here. Not the run jumper dobson was or as bursty as desjarlais, but being a half step behind those guys athletically puts you in a good position, especially up here. Hes got good feet, and plays with great strength. He isn’t the bench press gym bro, though he looks it a bit, hes far more the functional strength type. He isn’t as polished as fortin, though I thought both were pretty similar quality prospects. Fortin lacks a lot more in athleticism and raw strength but plays with tremendous leverage and gets every bit out of his frame. Hes also got that nasty streak, toughness, and grit you look for in linemen. Vibert could’ve easily been a 6th ol in the cfl this year. People often struggle to identify if guys like him are high floor low ceiling types, or studs. Imo, he and fortin had the best chance of being early starters and long term impact players on the ol. I think he is very very likely a starter in the CFL at G or C. If he over achieves a bit then he can be an all star type. For me, I don’t go soo crazy for huge interior ol, wallace has tons of use and upside and i think he should be groomed for RT. Guys like vibert get over looked because they aren’t 6’6, 305, running 5.0 flat 40s etc. But I see every thing you need for a G and a C to succeed in the cfl. I thought the depth of ol in this draft had some real potential gems. Hocevar, Pyle, Coakes, and Vibert, these are the type of canadians that anchor interior ol spots for a long time. Vibert should be on the ar this coming year, and he should push for a job if the competition remains soo soft.

You have the choice of competent, maybe 3 good games last year, vs a guy who in a short period of time carried his team to a gc, was league mop etc. If you aren’t concerned with character, and I don’t think edmonton is at all, it’s a no contest between fajardo and the pest. I do like those 3 a lot too. If we aggressively pursue the best ol men we can get this off season, Imp or ni T G or C, and play only the best players the line can take a big step forward.

imo, Ford time in edmonton is done. spin the wheel of back up qbs. Maybe faj stays to back up in edm, though i think both parties would rather split up. Yep. I don’t think you can even keep paying him 240k.

Ohh thats right. Too bad, but good for him in landing that spot. That does sound like a real cushy retirement job.

That offence has lived a very charmed life this year. Very similar to Maksymic IMO. Though I'd put him above Mueller, because like you say, we have seen Maksymic have to macgyver together an offence with tinfoil, gum, and the angle of the sun. They always take and go get some of their guys. The biggest old boys coach ever (saying some thing considering Ricthie) is gonna go get em.

LOL. I have always really likely Coach Riley. Whats he doing now, still in the USFL?

Extreme change is an interesting thing in the CFL these days. (forget the rules stuff) The fact is, most teams are between heavily retooling and wholesale rebuilding their entire Secondary, DL, OL , and WR core every year. Everyone is looking for the plug-and-play DBs from college, the next pass rusher/catcher, and any kind of help they can manage on the OL. Except for the 1 or 2 contenders in any given season. And then the 1-year contract base has massive free agency turnover every year for most teams. The requirement for turn over might be high, but in this league the tolerance is about as high as it gets in pro sports. Out side of the lowest levels of indy baseball any way.

The only thing odd about Mos going up to HC, is that it is odd for teams Cos to go up to HC. It is far more common for Dc and OCS to do it. But Mos was considered a candidate to be an excellent DC as well. It was a big get for us; it wasn't any kind of shock. No one thought Mos was un-special. Mace was an excellent position coach and defensive assistant before moving up to DC. Just like JY. An expert at what he coached, with the fast track. It was still too soon for him, but it had worked it. It fails way, way more often than it works, though. For every mace, you have 10 DeVone Claybrooks. Mueller isn't in that mold either. No comparison between an excellent imp position player who played at the highest levels and coaches up from that position, to a career as a backup, who started coaching on the other side of the ball, then spent the majority of his time coaching RBs. Mueller has been a notably good coach for 1 year. Frankly, I wouldn't put Mueller on a list of the top 5 OCs in the league. little on a top the list of CO candidates to move up to HC. Wow, that is an odd offer from Hamilton. So they want to interview Danny and Mos for the same job? I can't see him wanting that.

It varies a lot, especially mid-season. A GM will have much less impact on the roster mid-season than in the off-season. I agree, Walters should have a short leash. Any of the mafia who return should. The house from 10 years ago HAS been cleaned. Only Mos and Walters remain. Everybody else is gone. The house from 4-5 years ago is sparse as well. What happened 3+ years ago, has no deciding factor in what happens next year. Shelf lifes are extremely short in sports and even more so in football. 5-10 years is ancient times at the speed football moves. Dave Ritchie's entire era here was part of 5 and 1/3 seasons. If you line up the competitive parts of the time here for Ritchie, Lapo, and Dunnigan you'd still be short of 10 years. The mafia having been here 10 years doesn't make it more likely that next year will be competitive, it makes it drastically more likely that things will fall apart more and it will end sooner. yeah, Mueller is not even close to stepping up to a HC job. Realistically no HC is coming in with a bunch of guys from out side his selection as a coach. Maybe 1 or 2 top of the line guys like JY and Marty, but thats it. I also don't see strevy as a RB coach, and I don't think Biggie would come back this soon to coach.

I've only listened to a bit of HI. I don't expect him to be BLM, but if he is more than Forde that will be great. How wild is that? Every year it's been zach playing in the GC and talk of when will BLM retire to be in the booth. Now BLM made it further than zach, looks a million times better, and zach is doing the analyst thing.

We should have a Poll on this thread. Personally, I think Mos goes. This has always been the job, especially working under pinball and with more control. We have all known that from the day he was hired. I think Walters stays, and Wade continues for the time being. I've never thought Wade would keep this role for 15+ years. Wade should maybe make a call to Buono for his legendary referral services... He's been involved in probably half of the franchise turn overs since he retired.

So Zach is going to work the GC as an analyst. That is kind of surprising to me. He's never been the most loquacious guy. He's Forde esq and maybe worse. But who knows perhaps he will be better when removed from the game played that day.