Brandon Blue&Gold Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/12/1/13812992/joe-mcknight-shooting-death-new-orleans?utm_campaign=sbnation.social&utm_medium=social&utm_content=sbnation&utm_source=twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 Somebody in internet universe exploits this then pretends to to be saddened and then turns it into anti-gun, anti-everything sermon in 5...4...3 basslicker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 Pretty vicious eye witness report to the shooting. Not gonna post it... pretty graphic and insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 On 11/30/2016 at 9:11 AM, Noeller said: Here's a "What If...": What if Franklin says "I want to be a starter..." and they really believe in him......and they deal Reilly instead? The guy hasn't exactly been the picture of health....if they really believe Franklin is going to be a superstar, it's not the craziest thought ever.... Reilly is a franchise qb. He had had a few injuries but seemed fairly healthy this past season. I think he is the face of the Eskimos. That would be a shocking event if he was traded to another team. Speaking of teams, when will the Argos make the move at head coach &/or GM? They've had nearly a month to figure out what they should do. I thought Milanovich would have been gone by Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 10 hours ago, Zontar said: Somebody in internet universe exploits this then pretends to to be saddened and then turns it into anti-gun, anti-everything sermon in 5...4...3 Of course. Just another unarmed black guy shot by a panicked, gun-carrying white guy without provocation. Nothing to see here. Move along... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 Just now, tracker said: Of course. Just another unarmed black guy shot by a panicked, gun-carrying white guy without provocation. Nothing to see here. Move along... Way to keep it classy guys (@Zontar as well). A man was just killed, have some decency. Condolences to his family friends and coworkers. Things change quickly in the football world, when they change this way it puts everything back into perspective. RIP Mcknight. AtlanticRiderFan and Brandon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) 14 hours ago, Brandon Blue&Gold said: Riders RB Joe McKnight shot dead in an apparent road rage incident. Terrible news. RIP. It absolutely baffles me that a "road rage incident" would escalate to a shooting... just a sad and terrible situation... Edited December 2, 2016 by bearpants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 1 hour ago, bearpants said: It absolutely baffles me that a "road rage incident" would escalate to a shooting... just a sad and terrible situation... You have no idea of the fear and rancor that so many Americans live in. A friend goes to west Texas to a gated community in the winter and has neighbours who strap on a gun to walk 200 meters to the store inside the fenced area. johnzo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 I just read this on NFL.com... unless I'm reading this wrong, I can't understand what is going on here: "Ronald Gasser, 54, was at the scene and told deputies he shot McKnight, Normand said. Gasser was not arrested, but he was taken into custody for questioning. Gasser was released overnight and not formally charged..." This sounds like he's admitting to committing the crime, yet they don't press charges? Seems odd? I am reading that wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) 23 minutes ago, bearpants said: I just read this on NFL.com... unless I'm reading this wrong, I can't understand what is going on here: "Ronald Gasser, 54, was at the scene and told deputies he shot McKnight, Normand said. Gasser was not arrested, but he was taken into custody for questioning. Gasser was released overnight and not formally charged..." This sounds like he's admitting to committing the crime, yet they don't press charges? Seems odd? I am reading that wrong? The criminal code in the US is not like here in Canada- it varies from state to state, and many states have laws that state a killing is justified if the killer believed he/she was under threat, or like Texas if your livelihood (tools, vehicle etc) is at risk. Edited December 2, 2016 by tracker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 57 minutes ago, bearpants said: I just read this on NFL.com... unless I'm reading this wrong, I can't understand what is going on here: "Ronald Gasser, 54, was at the scene and told deputies he shot McKnight, Normand said. Gasser was not arrested, but he was taken into custody for questioning. Gasser was released overnight and not formally charged..." This sounds like he's admitting to committing the crime, yet they don't press charges? Seems odd? I am reading that wrong? Sounds like the guy has been released... http://www.wwltv.com/news/crime/suspect-in-shooting-death-of-joe-mcknight-released/361982921 Quote Ronald Gasser, the suspect in the shooting death of Joe McKnight has been released, according to Jefferson Parish spokesman Colonel John Fortunato.Gasser has not been charged as of this time, though the matter remains under investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 Racism is very much real and it definitely exists in New Orleans. If a black man did this to McKnight, he'd be charged immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlanticRiderFan Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 What the hell is this guy doing in the outside world? He should be at best locked up in jail for life. Hopefully there is more to the story than this. RIP Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/joe-mcknight-shooter-released-charged-article-1.2895977 'Gasser then stood over the victim and barked, “I told you don’t you (expletive) with me,” before firing a final shot.' Sounds legit to me. It's outrageous how the race hustlers and social justice types will exploit this justified and noble act of self-defence to further deepen the racial divide in the USA. They are the problem! Edited December 2, 2016 by johnzo Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Blue&Gold Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 Louisiana has the "Stand your Ground" law. It sounds like that may be why the shooter was released. But if the witness's claims are accurate how can you claim self defense when the victim was unarmed and apologizing, then after shooting him down proceed to stand over him, talk @#$& and shoot twice more? That's an execution plain and simple. I really hope the investigation isn't over. This is so wrong. bigg jay, Judd and Bigblue204 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 There are at least 2 stories in this one. The police are likely waiting for the forensic evidence to verify which story or stories are viable. If the shooter actually stood over the victim and pumped a couple of shots into him, then it should be pretty evident in an autopsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 1 hour ago, johnzo said: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/joe-mcknight-shooter-released-charged-article-1.2895977 'Gasser then stood over the victim and barked, “I told you don’t you (expletive) with me,” before firing a final shot.' IF this is true (remember that's a big IF, we all know how sensationalist the media can be)... and this guy is able to just walk away (for now)... what a terrible and disgusting injustice... Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 1 hour ago, bearpants said: IF this is true (remember that's a big IF, we all know how sensationalist the media can be)... and this guy is able to just walk away (for now)... what a terrible and disgusting injustice... yeah but he didn't just walk away, police know who he is and if they decide that charges are warranted it'll be easy enough to find him and nail him to the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogi Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 I think it's pretty obvious we don't have all the information. Take the eyewitness statement with a grain of salt because they just witnessed someone murdered in front of their eyes, they're probably in shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 It can be tricky to get jury convictions in cases like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 13 minutes ago, johnzo said: It can be tricky to get jury convictions in cases like this. Cops in the US rarely get convicted, even when the evidence is overwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 This guy wasn't even a cop! The Classic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 23 minutes ago, johnzo said: This guy wasn't even a cop! You are correct. I had meant to point out that evidence, even if solid, does not ensure a conviction. But I had a brain cramp. Sorry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) No biggie. Gonna step away from this conversation, I think that ultimately yogi and tburg have it right ... hot takes aren't super helpful right now and that hopefully forensic evidence will clarify what happened. But I am super cynical about all of this -- about whether this was a "justified" shooting and about whether justice will be served if it wasn't. Respects and condolences to McKnight's family, friends, and teammates. Edited December 2, 2016 by johnzo bearpants and The Classic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Blue&Gold Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 A spokesman for the cops disputes the report from the witness that he stood over McKnight and shot him. He seems to imply that Gasser shot from his driver seat through his open passenger window at McKnight while he was in his own vehicle. That's a big difference from eyewitnesses. And doesn't really look any better to be honest. But the investigation is ongoing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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