The Unknown Poster Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Atomic said: So you don't think fostering a better relationship with Russia would be beneficial? I guess so. When a nation wants to screw you though, how better can it be? You can either make them happy and bend over or you can refuse to bed over and not make them happy. Trust but verify I guess. Putin isnt Gorby. He's a dictator from the KGB. He doesnt want to be buddies with the US. And I dont think he would respond to niceties. He hasnt so far. He has done whatever he wanted wherever he wanted. I dont want war with Russia. But Russia isnt our friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 15 minutes ago, Atomic said: That situation isn't as simple as you'd like to believe. There are pro-Russian separatist factions within Ukraine. But I guess you know better than they do. How much time have you spent there? I'm eager to hear about your experiences. I havent spent any time there. But my Ukrainian friends have. There are pro-France separatists here so we should be okay with an invasion? Russia violated the sovereignty of another nation and it was allowed to stand. In this case I dont care at all about the complexities etc. Ukraine should know they can count of the west for support and we all let them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 14 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Fixed it for reality. Please just post your own thoughts going forward instead of attaching them to mine. Your "reality" is not mine and I dont want to be associated with it. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jacquie Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Atomic said: Speak for yourself, you sure don't speak for me Because only you can make generalizations. Gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 23 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Translation: "I don't like this and am willing to ask other people to risk their lives and careers to stop it. While I tweet about it." kelownabomberfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 18 minutes ago, Atomic said: Translation: "I don't like this and am willing to ask other people to risk their lives and careers to stop it. While I tweet about it." Lots of different forms of resistance. Should all media/activists/citizens remain silent unless they're willing to risk life and shed blood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said: For what it's worth (which not much), the Trump administration is denying the report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 45 minutes ago, Jacquie said: For what it's worth (which not much), the Trump administration is denying the report. yup, more "fake news". What a surprise. http://www.snopes.com/2017/02/17/white-house-denies-rumors-national-guard/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) Use your words, man. "White house denies" and "not true" are not logically equivalent, and that holds true for any White House, not just the current one. And you have to admit that the current administration has a loose relationship with the truth. Remember Spicer claiming that the inauguration festivities were the biggest ever? Not a lot of credibility there. Perhaps it's a leak detector; it's a classic counterespionage technique to feed distinctive and compelling information to questionable people and then see where it gets echoed. Edited February 17, 2017 by johnzo Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said: Lots of different forms of resistance. Should all media/activists/citizens remain silent unless they're willing to risk life and shed blood? Yes, if they are telling other people that they should be willing to. Edited February 17, 2017 by Atomic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Anything remotely anti trump must be fully vetted with multiple sources. Anything trump says, you can believe. Ok. Because trump has proven to be an honest and reliable guy. Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Anything remotely anti trump must be fully vetted with multiple sources. Anything trump says, you can believe. Ok. Because trump has proven to be an honest and reliable guy. I know, it's unbelievable- no one is that removed from reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 23 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: WOw This is a prime example of not giving the entire story. The reporter asked Trump if he would meet with the CBC. The part that wasn't included in that soundbite was after he told the reporter he would love to meet with the CBC, he went on to say that they've been trying extremely hard to meet with the CBC, and due to political reasons, the CBC won't meet with the White House, and Trump said it was probably due to instructions from the DNC. Is this true? I know many here would just dismiss this as Trump lying. If it is true, and Trump has been trying to meet with them to discuss issues of inner cities, and they won't meet with him purely due to optics and politics, then shame on them. There was a comment about how Flint doesn't have drinking water yet. If the DNC representatives from that area are putting politics ahead of the people then shame on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 20 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said: This is a prime example of not giving the entire story. The reporter asked Trump if he would meet with the CBC. The part that wasn't included in that soundbite was after he told the reporter he would love to meet with the CBC, he went on to say that they've been trying extremely hard to meet with the CBC, and due to political reasons, the CBC won't meet with the White House, and Trump said it was probably due to instructions from the DNC. Is this true? I know many here would just dismiss this as Trump lying. If it is true, and Trump has been trying to meet with them to discuss issues of inner cities, and they won't meet with him purely due to optics and politics, then shame on them. There was a comment about how Flint doesn't have drinking water yet. If the DNC representatives from that area are putting politics ahead of the people then shame on them. Good on you for defending and giving the benefit of the doubt, no matter how strained it should be, to a serial liar. You are a bigger man than myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Good on you for defending and giving the benefit of the doubt, no matter how strained it should be, to a serial liar. You are a bigger man than myself. You could be the poster boy for why half the population can't stand liberals. tacklewasher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Atomic said: You could be the poster boy for why half the population can't stand liberals. Awesome! Do I get my cookie now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Awesome! Do I get my cookie now? Nope just a lunatic for a president because people would literally rather have the devil in power than someone like yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Atomic said: Nope just a lunatic for a president because people would literally rather have the devil in power than someone like yourself. That's fine with me, I would rather have the devil in power rather than myself. I don't blame the people at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 minute ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: That's fine with me, I would rather have the devil in power rather than myself. I don't blame the people at all. OK then stop whining. tacklewasher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Atomic said: OK then stop whining. Not sure what you are talking about. Could you post me a few examples of my whines please, so I can conduct myself in a matter that is more palatable for you in the future? And we should take this to PMs instead of airing this out in the forum. Edited February 17, 2017 by wanna-b-fanboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 37 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Not sure what you are talking about. Could you post me a few examples of my whines please, so I can conduct myself in a matter that is more palatable for you in the future? And we should take this to PMs instead of airing this out in the forum. Sorry I don't waste my time with people who get their political opinions from the Daily Show and SNL Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevetheClub Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) 44 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Not sure what you are talking about. Could you post me a few examples of my whines please, so I can conduct myself in a matter that is more palatable for you in the future? And we should take this to PMs instead of airing this out in the forum. Hear hear! Edited February 17, 2017 by StevetheClub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Take it outside and let us get on with the drama....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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