FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/chl-players-seek-compensation-in-minimum-wage-lawsuit-1.3275186 Good luck to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/chl-players-seek-compensation-in-minimum-wage-lawsuit-1.3275186 Good luck to them. CHL should be disbanded altogether. Let them play high school/college hockey like every other sport. I've never liked how they run this league. Kids getting drafted at 14/15 years old... it's just wrong. Jaxon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Atomic said: CHL should be disbanded altogether. Let them play high school/college hockey like every other sport. I've never liked how they run this league. Kids getting drafted at 14/15 years old... it's just wrong. The alternative is that you have elite players all moving to certain neighbourhoods to play at a certain, elite hockey school. It already happens at the lower levels. I'm not sure drafting is the answer but I don't know what is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Blue&Gold Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 I'd be curious to know the difference in $$$ between the current system (stipend and free university based on how long you play in the CHL) vs everyone getting paid the minimum wage. A lot of CHL teams barely scrape by right now. Would MW make it worse or better (I assume with MW the free University would get dropped along with the stipend). And if you do go with MW is it the same for all players or would teams be allowed to pay more to certain players as they see fit. That would probably kill off more than a few teams if the latter option came to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 49 minutes ago, JCon said: The alternative is that you have elite players all moving to certain neighbourhoods to play at a certain, elite hockey school. It already happens at the lower levels. I'm not sure drafting is the answer but I don't know what is. Hmm yes true. How do they handle basketball and football in the States? Same issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 11 minutes ago, Atomic said: Hmm yes true. How do they handle basketball and football in the States? Same issue? Oh yes. That's a huge issue. Players move. If you're truly elite, then you go to a prep school with a top coach and other top players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 In USA its college after high school except for 5 teams in NW in the WHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Blue&Gold Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: In USA its college after high school except for 5 teams in NW in the WHL. They can also play in the USHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 18 minutes ago, Brandon Blue&Gold said: They can also play in the USHL. Is that not option after you've been drafted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Blue&Gold Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 15 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Is that not option after you've been drafted? Drafted by a CHL team you mean? As long as they don't sign with the CHL team that drafts them they can do whatever or go wherever they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Brandon Blue&Gold said: Drafted by a CHL team you mean? As long as they don't sign with the CHL team that drafts them they can do whatever or go wherever they want. My bad, thought USHL was like ECHL. Edited February 8, 2017 by FrostyWinnipeg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Blue&Gold Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 This article gives a decent glimpse into some of the WHL financials... http://www.canadianbusiness.com/companies-and-industries/junior-hockey-class-action-chl-ohl-whl/ There are a few teams in the CHL that are worth good money and make good money. But the majority are either barely hanging on or just getting by. Few if any of the teams own their buildings so they're not making money off of that, usually they're on a multiyear lease that raises in price every few years. Basically ticket sales, merch and local advertising funds a CHL team. And there's no big tv contract to divide between the teams, you're lucky if Sportsnet shows one game a week. I'm not sure I buy the idea that these poor kids are exploited for big money. It's their choice to play, they don't have to. It's a high level of hockey that has major exposure to the pro leagues scouts. You get a free year of University per year played so for those not going on to the pros have an education option. They could certainly increase the stipend and improve the education option to make it more attractive for the kids and their parents. Many already choose the NCAA route in part for the free ride at a good U.S school. To the point that Kyle O'Connor made in that original article the medical care could and should be improved as well. But full on hourly rate? Back to my previous question, what would the difference in $$$ be from the current system to a new MW system? If the answer is minimal then sure fine go ahead. If not then MW could be the end for a number of CHL teams. That would be a damn shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Blue&Gold Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 16 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: My bad, thought USHL was like ECHL. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Hockey_League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Blue&Gold Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 http://www.tsn.ca/new-court-filings-take-aim-at-chl-clubs-financials-1.667220 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 41 minutes ago, Brandon Blue&Gold said: http://www.tsn.ca/new-court-filings-take-aim-at-chl-clubs-financials-1.667220 Makes me wonder about the Goldeyes finances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Blue&Gold Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 http://www.dubnetwork.ca/interviews/chl-lawsuit-parents-perspective/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 If they win & teams disband then go the way of other sports where players have to go the CIS or NCAA route there'll be a huge fallout as most hockey players in high school haven't got the marks to get in. They don't care about school at 16 as they're focused on just hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 If you got the grades you go NCAA/scholarship. If you got the money but not the talent you go CIS. If you dont need the learnin you go CHL. The union is coming CHL now how they gonna handle it. Have to wait for the courts decision. Opening the books should be fun as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) This will hurt the kids who think they can play in the NHL & are in high school now just scraping by. If the court case is successful & teams in the CHL do fold leaving university as the only way to get to the NHL then they'll be left behind. No point talking about improving scholarships if a player doesn't have the marks to get into university in the first place because it doesn't matter under the present system. . Edited February 12, 2017 by SpeedFlex27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 13 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: This is for the whole league? Not a single team? 60 teams in the CHL. $1.6M in profit, means each team makes $27k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 A better explanation: http://www.tsn.ca/lawyers-follow-the-money-as-court-releases-chl-team-financials-1.682888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 $11.4M from NHL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 26 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: $11.4M from NHL? Yup. It's considered a development league and very important to feed the NHL. The NHLPA should help by supporting it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Pop Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 For anyone with twitter, @CHLPA2015 is apparently the PA's official handle. Worth a gander if you like a laugh. If it IS their real handle, I'm thinking the league will do just fine winning their case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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