FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mark F said: I'm going to predict that Hutch ends up having a good NHL career. he had some outstanding games for the Jets, I seem to remember he stoned the Blackhawks a few years ago, with a bunch of great saves. Something's gone wrong, but maybe some other team can help him get a second chance. save percentage .....943 Thought he was younger but he's gonna be 27 in a couple of weeks. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 We are the only team in the league who plays the archaic man to man D in our zone. It's killing us and this is why you are guys chasing 1 player around the entire D zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Just now, FrostyWinnipeg said: Thought he was younger but he's gonna be 27 in a couple of weeks. He hasn't been in the NHL that long. He is young in terms of his NHL playing career. He could still be a good player.. he's shown it before. He needs to go to the A next year tho. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 minute ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Thought he was younger but he's gonna be 27 in a couple of weeks. But how old was Dubnyk when he was resurrected last year by the Wild? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Just now, Mark F said: But how old was Dubnyk when he was resurrected last year by the Wild? 28. Actually was Jan, 2015 he was traded to Minn. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, Goalie said: We are the only team in the league who plays the archaic man to man D in our zone. It's killing us and this is why you are guys chasing 1 player around the entire D zone. Do you have proof of this? That seems crazy if we are the only team doing it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, Goalie said: Pretty much. They both suck. Only difference there is a minor possibility of hutch finding his game again in the A. Pavs is a lost cause Yes. Hutch still hAs upside. He rose to prominence very quickly from the ECHL to the NHL in one season. Then he ran into the brick wall called Flaherty. It's possible he returns to form but that would be easier if wade was fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 13 minutes ago, Mark F said: I'm going to predict that Hutch ends up having a good NHL career. he had some outstanding games for the Jets, I seem to remember he stoned the Blackhawks a few years ago, with a bunch of great saves. Something's gone wrong, but maybe some other team can help him get a second chance. save percentage .....943..... smiling fans, teammates congratulating him... guy needs a break of some sort Same thing happened to Hutch as happened to Helle as happened to Pavs as will happen to Comrie. The worst goalie coach in the league but he's pals with Chipman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Couple of free agent goalie's who are 28 could hit the market this summer Darling from Chicago and Mason from Philly, if the Jets think that Helle can't handle the load next year maybe one of those guys can be an improvement over what we have here at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Darling. Darling. Darling. Goalie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 4 years at $4 million+ for Darling... $5, $4.5, $4, $3 That is more than enough time for Helle to develop, no pressure - same type of goalie as Darling... I think Helle RFA will just be ending when Darling contract is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) Darling isn't worth more than Greiss. 3 years 9 million max. Helle the last 2 games looks more like Helle of last year and less like the flopping fish pav and hutch. At this point I'm not sure it matters who Is in net.. our system in the d zone is archaic. Pittsburgh played it last year.... fired the coach. .. stopped playing it and won the cup Edited February 12, 2017 by Goalie The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, Goalie said: Darling isn't worth more than Greiss. 3 years 9 million max. Helle the last 2 games looks more like Helle of last year and less like the flopping fish pav and hutch. At this point I'm not sure it matters who Is in net.. our system in the d zone is archaic. Pittsburgh played it last year.... fired the coach. .. stopped playing it and won the cup I've said a couple times we should be modelling our "system" on Pittsburgh. Speed and skill. Not the best D. Sounds familiar. Works for the Pens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Floyd said: Do you have proof of this? That seems crazy if we are the only team doing it... I googled wpg jets defensive system, and found only one article, which had only one paragraph on the subject. I'm thinking nobobdy actually knows what system they use. one article said man to man. beats me. Edited February 12, 2017 by Mark F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Well they chase the opposition around until they score, which happens more than almost every other team. So...thats a bad system. Brandon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said: Well they chase the opposition around until they score, which happens more than almost every other team. So...thats a bad system. More like they watch and wait until the goalie makes the save before going to the puck.. Goalie and The Unknown Poster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 28 minutes ago, Brandon said: More like they watch and wait until the goalie makes the save before going to the puck.. Like the PK. The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Goalie said: Like the PK. It's frustrating... it reminds me of playing NHL video games where on the easiest setting the computers defense just sits and waits for you to make dekes and passes and that the only time they create a turnover is if you on offense screw something up. Floyd and Goalie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 The assistant coaches only have one more year on their contracts... the jets will give them one more shot to save money... along with Maurice. Then we'll get a good coach for a very fair price. Its the Winnipeg way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Brandon said: More like they watch and wait until the goalie makes the save before going to the puck.. More like they watch and wait until the puck goes into the net..... Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 I'll be watching to see how high the GAD factor is. That'd probably one of the most important "stats" in every sport. Last couple games it's been non existent so we will see. GAD = Give A Damn Bottom line... we can sit here talking about goalies or coaches or whatever but if the veteran leaders don't give a crap then... it's irrelevant who starts or who coaches. Players play... coaches coach. I just don't think our veteran players should be given any more free passes. 1 coach down.. How many have to come and go until you start moving some of those veteran guys who just don't seem to really GAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Goalie said: I'll be watching to see how high the GAD factor is. That'd probably one of the most important "stats" in every sport. Last couple games it's been non existent so we will see. GAD = Give A Damn Bottom line... we can sit here talking about goalies or coaches or whatever but if the veteran leaders don't give a crap then... it's irrelevant who starts or who coaches. Players play... coaches coach. I just don't think our veteran players should be given any more free passes. 1 coach down.. How many have to come and go until you start moving some of those veteran guys who just don't seem to really GAD Bogo, Kane, Ladd, Antropov, Hainsey, Oduya, Slater ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Floyd said: Bogo, Kane, Ladd, Antropov, Hainsey, Oduya, Slater ...? Bogo was young. Kane definitely GAD. Ladd? He was part of the veteran core who got Noel fired. Antropov? And the others? Seriously? ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 17 minutes ago, Goalie said: Bogo was young. Kane definitely GAD. Ladd? He was part of the veteran core who got Noel fired. Antropov? And the others? Seriously? ?? These are all 'vets' or Atlanta core that have been turfed as part of the rebuild... you can even include Burmi and Pavs in that now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 16 minutes ago, Floyd said: These are all 'vets' or Atlanta core that have been turfed as part of the rebuild... you can even include Burmi and Pavs in that now They were never core pieces. At 1 point bogo and Kane were but they certainly weren't the veteran leaders. It's Ladd wheeler buff maybe enstrom and stu and Thorburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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