Pete Catan's Ghost Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 Lovely work, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 On 4/7/2017 at 3:24 PM, wbbfan said: Maybe hes the guy that comes around every year or two claiming insider knowledge and giving TC reports when he clearly didnt go (good performances by people who didnt dress etc) As much as I love the fake training camp guy.... I know it's not Bomber buzz... I read his stuff on occasion and he is generally pretty good in his analysis... sweep the leg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 20 minutes ago, bearpants said: As much as I love the fake training camp guy.... I know it's not Bomber buzz... I read his stuff on occasion and he is generally pretty good in his analysis... not a fan of his, seen too many turds like his big board. But hes normally better then that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb1 Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) (From Justin Dunk....new draft eligible player.) Randy Colling found his calling as a Canadian after a rule change and knowledge from a current Arena league head coach with Canadian Football League scouting experience. Five years after graduating from Gannon University the 26-year-old defensive lineman has obtained Canadian Citizenship and been added to the 2017 CFL draft class. When Colling finished his senior season with the Golden Knights he would not have been considered a non-import under the collective bargaining agreement at the time. But in May 2014, when the CBA changed and allowed Canadian Citizens to qualify as nationals that changed the dynamic for Colling. However, it took recognition from Cleveland Gladiators head coach Ron Selesky, who was a U.S. scout with the Saskatchewan Roughriders that found linebacker Jeff Knox Jr. in 2015, to start the process for Colling. “I didn’t know he could qualify as a Canadian until he told me that his dad was born in Canada. I remembered seeing the article about how [Garrett] Waggoner got his Canadian Citizenship and they had contacted the Minister of Sport up there and got their process expedited. As soon as Randy told me the light went on: ‘Waggoner.’ I used that as a blueprint,” Selesky says. “If I would’ve known earlier that his dad had been born in Canada we could’ve jumped on it a lot earlier. When we first got him he had just turned 23.” Colling’s father and grandfather, Kirby and Ken, were born in Hamilton, grew up Ticats fans. Kirby taught his son the “Oskee Wee Wee” chant, still wears a Ticats winter coat and owns a Darren Flutie jersey among others, even after he moved to Buffalo as a teenager. “I remember visiting Hamilton when I was 12 years old because my dad wanted to show me where he grew up. He told me about the Tiger-Cats and we went to the team shop where I got some gear,” Colling recalls. Although, that didn’t help Colling’s citizenship process speed up. It took over a year for the final paperwork to be done, which came three days after the deadline to qualify for the 2016 CFL supplemental draft. “My Cleveland teammate Brian Brikowski, who played for the Montreal Alouettes [2014-2015], he was telling me how much of a difference it would make in me getting my Canadian citizenship,” Colling, eligible for the 2017 CFL pick-fest, says. “You can make more money and have a lot longer career.” Back in 2011, the defensive lineman finished his senior season at Gannon University with 88 tackles, 21.5 tackles for loss, nine sacks, one forced fumble and one fumble recovery in 11 games. He was a Gene Upshaw NCAA Division II Lineman of the Year award finalist. After going unselected in the NFL draft that year, Giants and Jets mini-camps didn’t yield a contract, Colling signed with the Gladiators and played there for the 2012 and 2013 seasons. For 2014 he signed a futures contract with the Bills in January that year, but he was released in May after Buffalo tried to turn him into an offensive lineman. “Where I came out of college, Gannon University, no player had ever signed an NFL deal. One guy before me went to a mini-camp but never signed a deal,” Colling says. After that, it was back to Cleveland where Colling continued to develop into an elite Arena league defensive lineman. Last year for the Gladiators he registered 19.5 tackles and 4.5 sacks in 16 games, which earned him All-Arena defensive first team accolades. And he was an emergency offensive lineman too. “He’s got the ability to go up there and dominate – incredible first step. He’s got all this experience and he’s only 26 years old. He’s got several good years in front of him,” Selesky says. “The biggest adjustment for him initially is just going to be getting over the shock of when he walks out onto the field. He’s going from playing on the smallest football field to the biggest one. Four of our game fields fit on one NFL game field, so take that and then add the extra length, width and end zones up in the CFL.” Three CFL teams have called Selesky to get information on the intriguing defensive lineman. Meanwhile, Colling has spoken with every team across the three-down league. “Big, active and can play all the positions along the defensive line,” one CFL scouts says. “He needs to lose weight for our game, but his size, rush ability, toughness and versatility will be an asset to any team.” Often the CFL takes shots for the minimum salary checking in at $52,000 for an 18 game season, but it’s a substantial jump for a player like Colling who would make around $15,600 in an AFL season ($975 per game approximately). Colling’s looking forward to the pay bump and challenge, the three-down game presents, but he’s got a jump in terms of knowing what it’s like to take down a CFL quarterback. “I played against Trevor Harris [Edinboro University] in college,” Colling says. “Trevor was a few years older than me, but I remember getting him a few times.” Reply With Quote Edited April 10, 2017 by bb1 TBURGESS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, bb1 said: (From Justin Dunk....new draft eligible player.) Randy Colling found his calling as a Canadian after a rule change and knowledge from a current Arena league head coach with Canadian Football League scouting experience. Five years after graduating from Gannon University the 26-year-old defensive lineman has obtained Canadian Citizenship and been added to the 2017 CFL draft class. When Colling finished his senior season with the Golden Knights he would not have been considered a non-import under the collective bargaining agreement at the time. But in May 2014, when the CBA changed and allowed Canadian Citizens to qualify as nationals that changed the dynamic for Colling. However, it took recognition from Cleveland Gladiators head coach Ron Selesky, who was a U.S. scout with the Saskatchewan Roughriders that found linebacker Jeff Knox Jr. in 2015, to start the process for Colling. “I didn’t know he could qualify as a Canadian until he told me that his dad was born in Canada. I remembered seeing the article about how [Garrett] Waggoner got his Canadian Citizenship and they had contacted the Minister of Sport up there and got their process expedited. As soon as Randy told me the light went on: ‘Waggoner.’ I used that as a blueprint,” Selesky says. “If I would’ve known earlier that his dad had been born in Canada we could’ve jumped on it a lot earlier. When we first got him he had just turned 23.” Colling’s father and grandfather, Kirby and Ken, were born in Hamilton, grew up Ticats fans. Kirby taught his son the “Oskee Wee Wee” chant, still wears a Ticats winter coat and owns a Darren Flutie jersey among others, even after he moved to Buffalo as a teenager. “I remember visiting Hamilton when I was 12 years old because my dad wanted to show me where he grew up. He told me about the Tiger-Cats and we went to the team shop where I got some gear,” Colling recalls. Although, that didn’t help Colling’s citizenship process speed up. It took over a year for the final paperwork to be done, which came three days after the deadline to qualify for the 2016 CFL supplemental draft. “My Cleveland teammate Brian Brikowski, who played for the Montreal Alouettes [2014-2015], he was telling me how much of a difference it would make in me getting my Canadian citizenship,” Colling, eligible for the 2017 CFL pick-fest, says. “You can make more money and have a lot longer career.” Back in 2011, the defensive lineman finished his senior season at Gannon University with 88 tackles, 21.5 tackles for loss, nine sacks, one forced fumble and one fumble recovery in 11 games. He was a Gene Upshaw NCAA Division II Lineman of the Year award finalist. After going unselected in the NFL draft that year, Giants and Jets mini-camps didn’t yield a contract, Colling signed with the Gladiators and played there for the 2012 and 2013 seasons. For 2014 he signed a futures contract with the Bills in January that year, but he was released in May after Buffalo tried to turn him into an offensive lineman. “Where I came out of college, Gannon University, no player had ever signed an NFL deal. One guy before me went to a mini-camp but never signed a deal,” Colling says. After that, it was back to Cleveland where Colling continued to develop into an elite Arena league defensive lineman. Last year for the Gladiators he registered 19.5 tackles and 4.5 sacks in 16 games, which earned him All-Arena defensive first team accolades. And he was an emergency offensive lineman too. “He’s got the ability to go up there and dominate – incredible first step. He’s got all this experience and he’s only 26 years old. He’s got several good years in front of him,” Selesky says. “The biggest adjustment for him initially is just going to be getting over the shock of when he walks out onto the field. He’s going from playing on the smallest football field to the biggest one. Four of our game fields fit on one NFL game field, so take that and then add the extra length, width and end zones up in the CFL.” Three CFL teams have called Selesky to get information on the intriguing defensive lineman. Meanwhile, Colling has spoken with every team across the three-down league. “Big, active and can play all the positions along the defensive line,” one CFL scouts says. “He needs to lose weight for our game, but his size, rush ability, toughness and versatility will be an asset to any team.” Often the CFL takes shots for the minimum salary checking in at $52,000 for an 18 game season, but it’s a substantial jump for a player like Colling who would make around $15,600 in an AFL season ($975 per game approximately). Colling’s looking forward to the pay bump and challenge, the three-down game presents, but he’s got a jump in terms of knowing what it’s like to take down a CFL quarterback. “I played against Trevor Harris [Edinboro University] in college,” Colling says. “Trevor was a few years older than me, but I remember getting him a few times.” Reply With Quote http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1174041-shining-a-light-on-the-5-most-unknown-2012-nfl-undrafted-free-agents Guy sure sounds interesting. 6'4 320 (listed as 6'5 by the giants) listed as having played nose in college, and i imagine his AFL experience being very similar. But being a guy reputedly athletic enough to play 3-4 end in the nfl he certainly is interesting. Edited April 10, 2017 by wbbfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 $15k a season in the AFL? Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 Just now, TrueBlue said: $15k a season in the AFL? yeah its peanut butter sand which meals every day. Their PR money is really sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Catan's Ghost Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 Just now, wbbfan said: yeah its peanut butter sand which meals every day. Their PR money is really sad. Gimli Goose instead of Grey Goose bearpants and wbbfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Pete Catan's Ghost said: Gimli Goose instead of Grey Goose or old grey swish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 Old grey swish just ain't what she used to be wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 Looks like some CFL team will have found its Colling.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, tracker said: Looks like some CFL team will have found its Colling.... Booo-urns.... this terrible pun is literally in the very first sentence of Dunk's article Curious to see where this guy ranks... at 26 he (theoretically) should be game ready but he'll obviously have to make some adjustments for the Canadian game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 hour ago, bearpants said: Booo-urns.... this terrible pun is literally in the very first sentence of Dunk's article Curious to see where this guy ranks... at 26 he (theoretically) should be game ready but he'll obviously have to make some adjustments for the Canadian game... He will have to shed some bulk unless he plays nose tackle, but he sounds like he has the raw ability. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 47 minutes ago, tracker said: He will have to shed some bulk unless he plays nose tackle, but he sounds like he has the raw ability. at 6'5 320 he wont have to shed weight. Especially not with that level of explosiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 Would love to see the Bombers fly him in for interview and workout. wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 34 minutes ago, M.O.A.B. said: Would love to see the Bombers fly him in for interview and workout. its too bad this wasnt sorted out in time for the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Just now, wbbfan said: its too bad this wasn't sorted out in time for the combine. If he had been on his game, he ought to have asked to join the combine as his Canuckization was in process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, tracker said: If he had been on his game, he ought to have asked to join the combine as his Canuckization was in process. I wouldnt think they would allow him to with it in process come the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 3 hours ago, wbbfan said: at 6'5 320 he wont have to shed weight. Especially not with that level of explosiveness. Remember how Doug brown said he was too heavy at 6'8", 302? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Noeller said: Remember how Doug brown said he was too heavy at 6'8", 302? no, how heavy is travis bond? doug brown isnt exactly a replicatable player / situation either. how many 6'8 dts in the league. especially ones who play over the nose soo much as he did. Gaydosh is about the same but 6'3, tennant is 6'2 305, laurent is like 6'0 305 nevis is 6'2 and listed 301. This is all a similar body composition just taller and shorter. if any thing i bet a few of those shorter guys would be much heavier scaled up. What was that DT we had from ott who was like 5'9 300+? He started on his hands and knees. The nfl scout report said he could gain weight and not only not lose athleticism but gain as he was a sub matured 320. People really get stuck on silly numbers over all in height and weight instead of going case by case. Athletes vary soo greatly you cant say you need to be built as 6'4 300 etc Edited April 11, 2017 by wbbfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 The point is, you gotta be fast I this league... Not just an immovable object. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 14 minutes ago, Noeller said: The point is, you gotta be fast I this league... Not just an immovable object. he is fast did you watch the tape? havent seen a DT that explosion (even in d2) since idk when. Even at that weight guys like him and butcher could run circles around jake thomas types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigg jay Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Winnipeg-raised prospect added to the draft. He figures to be a mid-round pick and would fit best as a safety... possible back-up to Loffler? http://3downnation.com/2017/04/11/intriguing-canadian-defensive-back-abubakkar-conteh-added-to-2017-cfl-draft/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 14 hours ago, wbbfan said: I wouldnt think they would allow him to with it in process come the combine. Sounds like he could have been included in this year's combine. In the article posted above it says his final citizenship paperwork was completed 3 days after the 2016 supplemental draft. He has had his national status for nearly a year now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 The more I think about it, the more I think this may be much ado about nothing. If this guy was good enough, passport or not, he woulda at least had a cup of coffee up here by now. Seems like a really really small chance that this guy is actually going to be worth a first round pick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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