BigBlue Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 We have all been expressing doubt about the passivity/conservatism of our two coordinators .... So if this is the major-most problem, what circumstances or justification is needed to attempt to make an improvement there? If we make a change during the season would we promote from within or get an outsider? Who would you want if it was during this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 do you realize you are the only guy (well, next to nasty nate on OB) who i can definitively say "yup, thats a BigBlue" thread simply by reading the title? Nobody is firing a coordinator at this point of the season. we are 2 and 2 for crying out loud. both facets of the team have had moments of stellar play mixed with drek. all we need is to get some consistency.. As for the whom.. I literally have no idea. Is there anyone better then who we have sitting around just waiting for a phone call? I don't believe so.. JohnnyOnTheSpot, The Classic, Sard and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 No change during the season please. If we did, it would likely be Costello taking over as OC and Glenn Young as DC. Pretty hard to get anyone talented to come in mid-season because they are already employed elsewhere. SPuDS, The Classic, deepsixemtoboyd and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 4 games into the season sitting at .500, and this is a thread...? Good gravy. The Classic, SPuDS, Goalie and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash00 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Atomic said: No change during the season please. If we did, it would likely be Costello taking over as OC and Glenn Young as DC. Pretty hard to get anyone talented to come in mid-season because they are already employed elsewhere. Agreed 100%. Firing a coordinator mid season is throwing in the towel on the entire year and our coordinators (warts and all) would be head and shoulders above any interim guy brought in. We ride out this season and evaluate in the off-season. SPuDS, Goalie and The Classic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 14 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: 4 games into the season sitting at .500, and this is a thread...? Good gravy. Just so much....ALL....of this...... The Classic, SPuDS, blue_gold_84 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 This thread should not exist, either internally or from the outside.. blue_gold_84, bigg jay, SPuDS and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 would take a whole lot of stupidity You only turf a guy when season is a lost cause, he has lost his players and they stop playing for him, and you have something better in-house or available Noeller, The Classic and SPuDS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold_Palmer Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Won't happen in the middle of the season. The problem is who replaces them? You need time to implement a scheme, and get the players comfortable with it. It's funny over the the Rider board I constantly hear posters over there calling Lapo and Hall two of the best cordinators in the league. blue_gold_84, SPuDS, The Classic and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said: Won't happen in the middle of the season. The problem is who replaces them? You need time to implement a scheme, and get the players comfortable with it. It's funny over the the Rider board I constantly hear posters over there calling Lapo and Hall two of the best cordinators in the league. Well haven't you heard? Every other coordinator calls the right play every time, and ours call the wrong play every time. blue_gold_84, SPuDS and The Classic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlue Posted July 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 I am not advocating firing any body ... its just the chief gripe on these threads is coaching: play calling, schemes, personnel selection ... and that's not going to change with these coordinators ... so I just wanted to know how our posters would actually fix things ... or else decide what criteria we would use if & when there is an actual need to panic So if we are going to be shaking our fist in the air about coaching performance, lets be action oriented with our solutions ... so we don't get an ulcer or ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taynted_Fayth Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, BigBlue said: I am not advocating firing any body ... its just the chief gripe on these threads is coaching: play calling, schemes, personnel selection ... and that's not going to change with these coordinators ... so I just wanted to know how our posters would actually fix things ... or else decide what criteria we would use if & when there is an actual need to panic So if we are going to be shaking our fist in the air about coaching performance, lets be action oriented with our solutions ... so we don't get an ulcer or ... the thread title specifically says what would it take to fire a coordinator, so I think you are advocating the removal of one (at least). We complain about generally a couple plays not the entire game plan other then maybe seeing more run for example, but thats just fan POV. These guys are the ones paid to sift through tons of film and game plan accordingly. I trust what they devise is better then most arm chair coaches could draw up Sard and The Classic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlue Posted July 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Just now, Taynted_Fayth said: so I think you are advocating the removal of one (at least) No I am not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taynted_Fayth Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Just now, BigBlue said: No I am not then to answer your question, it would take a meeting, an email or a text to inform them their services are no longer required. Not really sure it takes a whole lot to fire someone Nash00 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlue Posted July 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Just now, Taynted_Fayth said: then to answer your question, it would take a meeting, an email or a text to inform them their services are no longer required. Not really sure it takes a whole lot to fire someone to fire someone you have to answer to: 1. the overseeing board and or president 2. the senior operating manager 3. the media 4. the ticket buying public or else you need the balls of a self indulgent narcisist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taynted_Fayth Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BigBlue said: to fire someone you have to answer to: 1. the overseeing board and or president 2. the senior operating manager 3. the media 4. the ticket buying public or else you need the balls of a self indulgent narcisist not really; The only person that really has a say is Oshea because it's his staff. Walters would just be the guy to carry out the termination. As for the media and the public, they have no say in anything. The media will get a scrum to explain the move that goes something like there being a difference in philosophies, going in different direction..yadda yadda. The public will keep going to games Edited July 26, 2017 by Taynted_Fayth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBird Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 LaPo got us 35 points last week. His problem might be he gets gun shy once he gets a decent lead. Don't forget MOS owns 7 points of those scored late in the game. The defence is missing Moe and Roc has struggled. Hurl is Hurl. But we are 2-2 so all is good by me anyway. The Classic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Sorry to say but why does Big Blue ask questions like this? Simple answer? Losing or underperforming of offense, defense or ST's. This is a Captain Obvious question. bigg jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Emaagerdz! The sky is falling! SPuDS, The Classic and blue_gold_84 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 50 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Sorry to say but why does Big Blue ask questions like this? Simple answer? Losing or underperforming of offense, defense or ST's. This is a Captain Obvious question. I think Big Blue is Nasty Nate The Classic, SPuDS and bigg jay 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigg jay Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 hour ago, rebusrankin said: I think Big Blue is Nasty Nate Not enough stupid nicknames to be Nate. He does seem to create just as many ridiculous threads though. The Classic and SPuDS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Firing someone is easy, to answer the question, it wouldn't take much at all. Of hiring a replacement - I cannot say as much. The Classic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlue Posted July 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 7 hours ago, Taynted_Fayth said: The public will keep going to games We have a core of season ticket holders that will always be there .... but look at the variability of attendance this year ... how the Bombers perform and how respected the fans feel by management makes a big $$$ difference .... the Berry firing hurt attendance, for years, for multiple reasons I am not saying we should fire anybody but I am saying how do we know when we should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett_c_b Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 I don't think the average fan gives a **** who the coordinators are. i'm sure there are lots of season ticket holders who couldn't name the coordinators. Fans care about winning. Firing lapolice isn't going to cause a few thousand fans to stay home. Maybe Tina and the kids. I've never wanted Lapolice here, V1, V2 or V3, and I'm still with everyone else in that it's a ridiculous conversation at this point and would be a pointless change at this point of the season that likely causes more problems. Atomic and TBURGESS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 12 hours ago, LeBird said: LaPo got us 35 points last week. His problem might be he gets gun shy once he gets a decent lead. Don't forget MOS owns 7 points of those scored late in the game. The defence is missing Moe and Roc has struggled. Hurl is Hurl. But we are 2-2 so all is good by me anyway. And Wild. And Johnson. I still can't believe this is a thread. It isn't like the team is 0-4 or has been blown out yet (maybe that second half vs. the Stampeders but that's a stretch). They lost a close one on Friday and should hopefully learn from the mistakes made. The sky isn't falling. Sard, Judd, The Classic and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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