Fan Boy Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, bluto said: When Collaros looked like the next real deal, he was competing with Trevor Harris, playing behind Ricky Ray, QB coached by Jason Maas, Coordinated by Marcus Brady and Head Coached by Scott Milanovich. He left that particular QB greenhouse and promptly lost his mojo. Remind me how many excellent QBs work on the Rider's staff again? That is an excellent point. Brandon and bluto 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jpan85 said: Who says the games have to be at night. Saturday afternoon game would work. Never said it was impossible to overcome. They are simply challenges. Every constraint placed on the schedule makes it harder to create. You'd still be dealing with a 3 hour time difference for Calgary and Edmonton too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, bluto said: When Collaros looked like the next real deal, he was competing with Trevor Harris and veteran Jarious Jackson, playing behind Ricky Ray, QB coached by Jason Maas, Coordinated by Marcus Brady and Head Coached by Scott Milanovich. He left that particular QB greenhouse and promptly lost his mojo. Remind me how many excellent QBs work on the Rider's staff again? Did he lose his mojo after leaving Toronto? His 2015 season in Hamilton was pretty remarkable, although it was only 12 games. blue_gold_84, SPuDS and Noeller 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, bluto said: When Collaros looked like the next real deal, he was competing with Trevor Harris and veteran Jarious Jackson, playing behind Ricky Ray, QB coached by Jason Maas, Coordinated by Marcus Brady and Head Coached by Scott Milanovich. He left that particular QB greenhouse and promptly lost his mojo. Remind me how many excellent QBs work on the Rider's staff again? Uhhh wasn't he undeafeted as a Hammy QB for a while, it was just the injuries kept taking him out of games. Maybe he wasn't undeafeted, but he certainly put the league on notice his first couple years in Hamilton. To say once he left TO he lost it, is just not true. Atomic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, bluto said: When Collaros looked like the next real deal, he was competing with Trevor Harris, playing behind Ricky Ray, QB coached by Jason Maas, Coordinated by Marcus Brady and Head Coached by Scott Milanovich. Bit of an exagerration... Collaros lost his mojo when he got rocked by Charleston Hughes... Mark F, Noeller and SPuDS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Boy Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 I just saw a tweet talking about the upgrade in receivers for Collaros. Crap. there is something to that. I don't think Collaros is that great but might be an upgrade to the tortoise and the hare. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 He's been a declining asset since he left whereas he ought to have been ascendant. I stand by the point: he never had the same QB friendly setup afterward and he regressed. blue_gold_84, voodoochylde and SPuDS 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, Fan Boy said: I just saw a tweet talking about the upgrade in receivers for Collaros. Crap. there is something to that. I don't think Collaros is that great but might be an upgrade to the tortoise and the hare. How many do they have under contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 The receivers argument only works if Collaros had dog **** for a crew in Hamilton. They’re not Carter and Roosevelt, but Toliver and Tasker (even Saunders as well) are no slouches. rebusrankin, TBURGESS, Bigblue204 and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, bluto said: He's been a declining asset since he left whereas he ought to have been ascendant. I stand by the point: he never had the same QB friendly setup afterward and he regressed. correct me if I'm wrong on the year but in 2015 he was the CFL MOP and sure to lead the cats to the Grey Cup... until he suffered a season ending injury... hasn't been the same since... I think it would be incorrect to say he was only great with Toronto... Bigblue204, Brandon, blue_gold_84 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 34 minutes ago, bluto said: When Collaros looked like the next real deal, he was competing with Trevor Harris and veteran Jarious Jackson, playing behind Ricky Ray, QB coached by Jason Maas, Coordinated by Marcus Brady and Head Coached by Scott Milanovich. He left that particular QB greenhouse and promptly lost his mojo. Remind me how many excellent QBs work on the Rider's staff again? well in his defense, he didn't look bad in the first season with Hamilton as the starter either.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBBFanWest Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, bluto said: He's been a declining asset since he left whereas he ought to have been ascendant. I stand by the point: he never had the same QB friendly setup afterward and he regressed. I guess that "regressed" has a different meaning in Toronto because I'm not seeing it here: Year Team Games Started Comp Att Pct Yards TD Int Rating 2013 TOR 18 8 190 287 66.2 2,316 14 6 98.4 2014 HAM 13 13 279 424 65.8 3,261 15 9 91.9 2015 HAM 12 12 252 359 70.2 3,376 25 7 113.7 2016 HAM 10 10 232 347 66.9 2,938 18 8 100.8 In 2014, with a brand new system he puts up similar numbers to the year before. In 2015 before the injury, his numbers are markedly better. In 2016, after the injury, his number decline but are still a bit better than 2013. That doesn't sound like regression. Sounds more like sour grapes from a jilted fan TBURGESS, blue_gold_84, SPuDS and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 If I were Collaros I'd be less concerned with my new team's QB coaching and way more concerned with my new team's pass protection. He was under siege last year. Remember "I can't do my work?" At least if the Riders don't work out for him, he can go work for Volvo or Toyota as a crash-test dummy, he's got the relevant experience. Poor Kevin Glenn. Whenever I see him I hear the Littlest Hobo theme song in my head. Bigblue204, rebusrankin and Brandon 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 3 hours ago, JCon said: It's going to be a very full house when Franklin gets to Saskatchewan too. That's part of the plan, right? That's what we were told, unequivocally. Yeah, now the Riders are going to "run the table" on the league. 1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Population wise it's QC, Saskatoon then Halifax. Saskatoon bigger then Regina. People forget that. Uh, that's incorrect. As of the 2016 Census, Quebec City's population is approx. 532,000; the Halifax Regional Municipality's population is approx. 403,000 (the urban area having a population around 317,000); and Saskatoon's population is approx. 246,000. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 28 minutes ago, Mike said: The receivers argument only works if Collaros had dog **** for a crew in Hamilton. They’re not Carter and Roosevelt, but Toliver and Tasker (even Saunders as well) are no slouches. and in his first year there, he performed pretty good minus the injury bug, no? If he gets comfy and doesn't absorb a ton of punishment in saskabush, I don't see why he couldn't return to some similar form to his first season in Ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: Uh, that's incorrect. As of the 2016 Census, Quebec City's population is approx. 532,000; the Halifax Regional Municipality's population is approx. 403,000 (the urban area having a population around 317,000); and Saskatoon's population is approx. 246,000. My bad, not enuf coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueandgold Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 When was the last time Collaros won a game? The Riders can have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, Blueandgold said: When was the last time Collaros won a game? The Riders can have him. Not that we needed him but I don't like the riders getting better.. adding Collaros will make them better, I'd put money on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Collaros used to be excellent at extending plays with his elusiveness. He seems to have lost that ability and as a pocket passer he holds the ball waaaaay too long. The Riders have a suspect OL. I don't see this ending well. Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 33 minutes ago, johnzo said: Poor Kevin Glenn. Whenever I see him I hear the Littlest Hobo theme song in my head. I wouldn't at all be surprised if he lands in Edmonton... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 30 minutes ago, Jpan85 said: That is a pretty sad sack coaching staff... I feel like almost everyone is going to regret making this career decision a la Tim Burke... SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 If you take those numbers for 2015 and make it 18 games its a 5000 yard passing season with 38 td passes versus 11 picks. Guy was playing like an MOP. Don't see the regression from Toronto. blue_gold_84 and Mark F 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, SPuDS said: Not that we needed him but I don't like the riders getting better.. adding Collaros will make them better, I'd put money on it. It's contingent on him shaking whatever demons he's had recently, though. It isn't like the Ti-Cats in 2016 or 2017 were rosters devoid of talent on offense. He simply struggled to execute and that's on him and him alone. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, Floyd said: That is a pretty sad sack coaching staff... I feel like almost everyone is going to regret making this career decision a la Tim Burke... Is it? I was going to say it's a nice mix of youth and experience. It was important that Mike Sherman bring in CFL guys and he's done that. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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