Floyd Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Winter rankings are out - https://press.cfl.ca/cfl-scouting-bureau-winter-edition?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Will be interesting to see what happens with Simonise... I'll probably watch for Laurent, Kwemo, Shepley... also think Bennet is a prototypical bomber pick WINTER SCOUTING BUREAU RANKINGS Rank Name Position School Hometown 1 (1) David Knevel OL Nebraska Brampton, ON 2 (2) Trey Rutherford OL Connecticut Markham, ON 3 (3) Ryan Hunter OL Bowling Green North Bay, ON 4 (6) Peter Godber OL Rice Toronto, ON 5 (10) Julien Laurent DL Georgia State Toronto, ON 6 (4) Godfrey Onyeka DB Laurier Brampton, ON 7 (12) Rashaun Simonise REC Calgary/Okanagan Vancouver, BC 8 (9) Regis Cibasu REC Montreal Kinshasa, Congo 9 (5) Darius Ciraco OL Calgary Burlington, ON 10 (-) Mark Chapman REC Central Michigan Port Huron, Michigan 11 (14) Dakoda Shepley OL UBC Windsor, ON 12 (-) Mark Korte OL Alberta Spruce Grove, AB 13 (19) Jackson Bennett DB Ottawa Cumberland, ON 14 (8) Kene Onyeka DL Carleton Brampton, ON 15 (13) Andrew Pickett OL Guelph Kitchener, ON 16 (15) Alex Taylor RB Western Winnipeg, MB 17 (20) Nelkas Kwemo LB Queen’s Montreal, QC 18 (16) Ryan Sceviour OL Calgary Calgary, AB 19 (11) Chris Amoah RB Laval Montreal, QC 20 (-) David Brown OL Western London, ON SPuDS and Noeller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Do we have an extra pick this year to waste on a white Canadian receiver out of Saskatchewan or an undersized DB who can't make it out of training camp?? SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOBomberFan Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 16 minutes ago, Brandon said: Do we have an extra pick this year to waste on a white Canadian receiver out of Saskatchewan or an undersized DB who can't make it out of training camp?? Walters is a savvy GM, I have faith he can secure a trade that will allow us to accomplish both. Tracker, SPuDS and Floyd 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Blue Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Interesting bit from Julien Laurent's GSU Bio. Quote JUNIOR COLLEGE: Made 21 tackles and one interception in six games in 2014 at New Mexico Military Institute... Native of Canada who played for ESC Renaissance ... Relative newcomer to football who has been compared to former Georgia State defensive lineman Christo Bilukidi, another Canadian who completed his third NFL season with the Baltimore Ravens in 2014. Let's just hope he doesn't follow Bilukidi's footsteps by getting drafted by the Blue Bombers and never suiting up for the team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBBFanWest Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 46 minutes ago, Brandon said: Do we have an extra pick this year to waste on a white Canadian receiver out of Saskatchewan or an undersized DB who can't make it out of training camp?? I sure hope that Walters gets it right this time. After all, no other GM has ever drafted someone that didn't work out. Noeller, BigBlueFanatic, SPuDS and 3 others 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Unger Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Brandon said: Do we have an extra pick this year to waste on a white Canadian receiver out of Saskatchewan or an undersized DB who can't make it out of training camp?? Wait a minute. Are people actually complaining about Walter’s drafting? Bigblue204, blue_gold_84, Noeller and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Unger Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 33 minutes ago, WBBFanWest said: I sure hope that Walters gets it right this time. After all, no other GM has ever drafted someone that didn't work out. Even the first round can be a crapshoot in the cfl. Overall it’s about acquiring depth and some prototypical CFL starters and the odd genius pick turns into a ratio breaker. We’ve acquired plenty of all three since Walters took over. I’ve got zero complaints when looking at the macro of his drafting. Sard, Mr Dee, blue_gold_84 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, Colin Unger said: Even the first round can be a crapshoot in the cfl. Overall it’s about acquiring depth and some prototypical CFL starters and the odd genius pick turns into a ratio breaker. We’ve acquired plenty of all three since Walters took over. I’ve got zero complaints when looking at the macro of his drafting. ya I think this comment was more so directed at the individual above whom believes every pick should be a home run and no pick should ever be poor, etc. Most of us understand that even the first 10 picks are usually a risky pick no matter what kind of leg work is done previously... I mean even last year, Faith Etitikake... people were calling him a bust already because hes not even rotational ready yet. I mean let the kid develop before passing judgement. people forget that the plug in first rounders are the exception to the norm, not the norm. Sard and Mark F 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Colin Unger said: Wait a minute. Are people actually complaining about Walter’s drafting? Walters can be criticized for the import talent on this team, but certainly not for the drafting of homegrown talent and horsetrades. Mr Dee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBBFanWest Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Colin Unger said: Even the first round can be a crapshoot in the cfl. Overall it’s about acquiring depth and some prototypical CFL starters and the odd genius pick turns into a ratio breaker. We’ve acquired plenty of all three since Walters took over. I’ve got zero complaints when looking at the macro of his drafting. You might want to have your sarcasm meter re-calibrated! Ya, it's always amazing to me how easy it is for everyone but the GM to do his job. Edited December 13, 2017 by WBBFanWest SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOBomberFan Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) Just jokes. The whole Addison Richards debacle will always stick out like a sore thumb for a lot of fans (and to a lesser extent Brendan Morgan and Garrett Waggoner), but overall it seems like he drafts really well. A good number of Walters' draft picks are still making an impact in the CFL (Derek Jones, Jesse Briggs, Ettore Lattanzio), not to mention our Canadian hogs, All-Star Taylor Loffler, and the emerging talent in Trent Corney. If not for a couple suspect picks (and they were suspect at the time) he'd be an A++ draft manager. I've got no major complaints, but what kind of Bomber fan would I be if I didn't ***** and moan about the past from time to time? Edited December 13, 2017 by MOBomberFan I should proofread before hitting submit, not after Mark F, rebusrankin, SPuDS and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted December 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 34 minutes ago, Colin Unger said: Wait a minute. Are people actually complaining about Walter’s drafting? I'm a fan of Walters but I might say its time to look at him with a bit more critical eye... Goossen and Chungh came out of a very strong first rounds Corney, Couture, Loffler are home runs I'd say Richards, Morgan, Waggoner, Trading up for Briggs... not so good How 2017 class turns out will say a lot imo - if it misses, it undoes a lot of Walters success SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) where our Nat content was before he took over, to where it is now......Walters has done some seriously heavy lifting. Big thumbs up from me... Edited December 13, 2017 by Noeller johnzo, Tracker, wbbfan and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 12 minutes ago, Floyd said: I'm a fan of Walters but I might say its time to look at him with a bit more critical eye... Goossen and Chungh came out of a very strong first rounds Corney, Couture, Loffler are home runs I'd say Richards, Morgan, Waggoner, Trading up for Briggs... not so good How 2017 class turns out will say a lot imo - if it misses, it undoes a lot of Walters success So drafting a special teams guy who... well, was a special teams guy but didn't evolve beyond that.. a solid LB prospect that opted to retire versus move up the depth chart and another ST stud with backup LB potential (and he was drafted where? second round??) is how you want to lambaste the GM.. do you not recall our previous nightmarish drafting before Walters got here? I don't think you could list 5 home runs in 10 years where as Walters and Co have landed 5 in 3? Your expectations are a tad askew. rebusrankin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Some more insight courtesy of the Taiter..... https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/12/13/scouting-bureau-winter-rankings-released/ Tracker and wbbfan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Walters has been an OK drafter. He's got a plan for the draft and he pretty much sticks with it. I won't give him the best marks cause I feel like his must draft linemen with first pick can leave other areas a bit lacking, but he has improved the depth on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 If you compare Walter's draft record to every other club over the same time period, he stacks up well. Some misses for certain but so does everybody. SPuDS and blue_gold_84 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted December 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, SPuDS said: do you not recall our previous nightmarish drafting before Walters got here? I don't think you could list 5 home runs in 10 years where as Walters and Co have landed 5 in 3? Your expectations are a tad askew. 'Bit more critical eye' is not exactly 'lambasting' anyone... I said I like Walters. I absolutely remember the Mack regime. But this will be Walters fifth draft - Mack is gone, NI depth is rebuilt... we are a normal team again. 2018 is a big draft for Walters et al in my opinion... does he know where to go from here - there were real signs of 'overthinking' in the 2017 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 5 hours ago, Brandon said: Do we have an extra pick this year to waste on a white Canadian receiver out of Saskatchewan or an undersized DB who can't make it out of training camp?? Nah we have to restock and take a guy who will go to the nfl and sit on a PR for a few years. We are far too low on those right now. Another year and the same talk of simonise. It certainly will be interesting floyd. Top tier athletic ability and size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 hours ago, wbbfan said: Nah we have to restock and take a guy who will go to the nfl and sit on a PR for a few years. We are far too low on those right now. Another year and the same talk of simonise. It certainly will be interesting floyd. Top tier athletic ability and size. Plus, apparently he really knows wax products. wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 There are some special playmaker type players in this draft. Time for the Bombers to draft one, and be aggressive to get one they really want. That's really what we're missing beyond Harris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J5V Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 45 minutes ago, tracker said: Plus, apparently he really knows wax products. And teams up well with Garfunkel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueandgold Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 4 hours ago, rebusrankin said: If you compare Walter's draft record to every other club over the same time period, he stacks up well. Some misses for certain but so does everybody. Maybe, but the 2017 draft class is going to go down as an all time bust if we don’t get Gray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Blueandgold said: Maybe, but the 2017 draft class is going to go down as an all time bust if we don’t get Gray. That is quite the statement to make less than a calendar year from it........ SPuDS, Mr Dee and blue_gold_84 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 Look at the Argos National starters to win the GC this year and ask yourself if it really matters. 5 on the lines, a safety and a hybrid back/receiver. Nothing special about any of them. Walters needs to focus on the international talent because that is where this team is behind in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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