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11 hours ago, Taynted_Fayth said:

Wasn't a big fan of the 1st one... but the cast in this could make it worth a looksee. Likely gonna wait for it to come out on KODI as i did the first.

 

Will Farrel stuck in sequelville. On the other hand where is Step Brothers 2?

First one's ending kind of saved it.

 

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Yup, the word is they did not get along with Kathleen Kennedy and Lawrence Kasdan.  I mean, if you're going to clash with two people on Star Wars, they're pretty much the worse two to clash with.  It does sort of dispute the usual talking points from the Star Wars films that the directors have all this freedom to do what they want.  And the initial rumors from The Force Awakens was that JJ was clashing with Kathleen as well because he was used to having all the power...but he obviously capitulated.

Dont mess with Kathleen Kennedy.

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2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Wait Lord and Miller were doing the Han Solo movie? Was it going to be a comedy? Cause honestly that seems like a strange choice. Guys are funny dudes no question but for a Star Wars movie? 

Hans was the comedy sidekick to the Wookie.

Just odd time to quit with most filming having been done.

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From THR and Latino Review:

So what was the main cause of friction? Well, as directors with a comedy background, they tend to have a lot of improv, which is in stark contrast with what Kasdan likes — a strict adherence to the words he wrote on the page. This wasn’t just a sticking point that slowly rose during shooting, either. Apparently, it was a near day one problem.

There was also a difference in understanding the actual character of Han Solo. From the sound of the report, it sounds like Lord and Miller were aiming for a more wise-cracking, funny Han Solo, whereas Kasdan was likely in favor of a more sarcastic and selfish one. Despite these differences, Lord and Miller had hoped that they’d be able to work through it.

Sadly, that was not the case. Kennedy backed Kasdan, and had to let the duo go. There are conflicting reports of whether or not Lord and Miller saw this coming. One source says they were blindsided, while another disputes the claim. So what’s to become of the film that is currently in production? Well, it’s going on hiatus until they’re able to find a replacement director.

Once they find a replacement, they’ll need to go through what Lord and Miller have shot, re-edit, and then figure out the best direction to go from there. Possible candidates include Ron Howard (Apollo 13), Joe Johnston (Captain America: The First Avenger), and strangely enough, Lawrence Kasdan himself (The Big Chill). The latter name is an interesting one because he certainly seems to be the reason behind the firing.

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1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

From THR and Latino Review:

So what was the main cause of friction? Well, as directors with a comedy background, they tend to have a lot of improv, which is in stark contrast with what Kasdan likes — a strict adherence to the words he wrote on the page. This wasn’t just a sticking point that slowly rose during shooting, either. Apparently, it was a near day one problem.

There was also a difference in understanding the actual character of Han Solo. From the sound of the report, it sounds like Lord and Miller were aiming for a more wise-cracking, funny Han Solo, whereas Kasdan was likely in favor of a more sarcastic and selfish one. Despite these differences, Lord and Miller had hoped that they’d be able to work through it.

Sadly, that was not the case. Kennedy backed Kasdan, and had to let the duo go. There are conflicting reports of whether or not Lord and Miller saw this coming. One source says they were blindsided, while another disputes the claim. So what’s to become of the film that is currently in production? Well, it’s going on hiatus until they’re able to find a replacement director.

Once they find a replacement, they’ll need to go through what Lord and Miller have shot, re-edit, and then figure out the best direction to go from there. Possible candidates include Ron Howard (Apollo 13), Joe Johnston (Captain America: The First Avenger), and strangely enough, Lawrence Kasdan himself (The Big Chill). The latter name is an interesting one because he certainly seems to be the reason behind the firing.

Well then it sounds like the right decision was made. 

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Yes, hard to argue with Kasdan when it comes to the voice of the characters in Star Wars.  And if the directors were trying to make a more modern buddy film with the gross out humor and what not, the silliness, that isnt really in keeping with Solo.

The thing is, they can show some heart in Solo.  Afterall, he doesnt just magically change over night.  But when we meet him he's still a smuggler, he still killed a bounty hunter in cold blood, he still works with vile gangsters and he's in it for the money.  So an origin film either has to be true to those traits or so us a better person who becomes jaded and selfish (leaving open the possibility - which we eventually see - of his redemption.

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1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Kasdan helped write ROTJ was my point.

Kasdan = creepy lizard like crestures on endor...

Lucas= opportunistic toy ***** turning ewoks into cuddly teddy bears.

https://www.google.ca/amp/www.indiewire.com/2013/05/5-things-you-may-not-know-about-return-of-the-jedi-how-it-could-have-been-much-cooler-97612/amp/

 

 

 

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21 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Thats interesting Howard was willing to take it on.  Good for him.  I wonder if he will have to go abck and re-shoot anything or if he can use what has been shot

Depends if the actors can come back to do more reshoots or not.  I'm sure he'll look through what they already have and take what he wants and discard the rest.  If the actors don't have enough time to do all the reshoots he needs to do, he may have to keep more then what he'd like.  Hopefully he can pull this off.  This is probably why they went with him over someone lesser known.  He's a pro and knows what he needs to do with a limited timeline.

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They usually build re-shoots into the actors contracts and I would think with Star Wars they'd have an even greater buffer.  They did a lot of re-shoots for Rogue One also.

The story going around is that the actor playing Han Solo first raised his concerns with how he was being directed to a producer who went to Kennedy and Kasdan.  And that individual dailies were good but when looked at as a whole, it was bad.  Compared it to Jim Carrey in the Mask, I think is what I heard.  Sounds like the switch to Ron Howard was a good one.

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