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No, it had no part in the loss but it emphasized O'Shea's pig-headed stubborn attitude in all it's glory.

If there wasn’t a better time to keep Streveler in the game, then I don’t know what’s what. Players complained about the booing when Nichols went back in, but they weren’t booing Nichols..they were booing that decision to remove Streveler. We weren’t going to win that game at that point, but Streveler gave us energy and excitement, but O’Shea didn’t see that. Bad read on his part. It was a moment everybody saw..except O’Shea.

We need a "**** off" button for this worthless sack of ****.

I’m a huge Matt Nichols guy but you can’t help but notice he’s been bad this year. Don’t whine about the fans noticing and being unhappy with it. Keep your head down, work at it and strive to be better. The scariest part this year, to be honest, is the offence seems to lack confidence when he’s in there lately. Streveler goes in today and suddenly it looked like we had some confidence back for a moment. Nichols jogs back on? Gone. That is not good.

And apparently doesn't play offence very well, either

I won’t be so wordy with it ... he’s been terrible

Ive been noticing a lot more panic and happy feet in Nichols' game this year. Its almost like he's been Willy'd or Collaros'd and is hearing footsteps. Its like when his first read isnt there he's panicking. Didnt notice any of that in previous years. Im thinking his non-contact leg injury in camp is mind-****ing him. Might be throwing his timing off when it comes to the long ball too. Anyone else noticing a difference?? Its concerning.

I just don’t know how you can go for 1 when the opponent puts up a few scores and converts them with 2. How do you ever expect to catch up if you don’t match that when you score a TD? There’s only so many possessions (chances to score points) in a game. At a certain point 7 vs 6 matters not at all when the other team is scoring 8’s. You gotta go.

I read Matt's comments on twitter. They were unfortunate as he totally misunderstood the situation & why fans were booing. All I can say is that what happened was completely Mike O'Shea's fault. The fans wanted to see Streveler play. He came in & looked good & then inexplicably was pulled by O'Shea. Fans were surprised & unhappy & they booed when Nichols went back out in the middle of the drive. They were booing the decision & not Nichols. I've seen some really stupid coaching decisions over the years but this one really takes the cake. There was absolutely no reason to put Nichols back in at that point. Not only was it ridiculous to pull Streveler but now Nichols has lashed out at fans because he thinks they were booing him when they weren't. O'Shea may have caused irreparable damage with his decision. Two questions now are will fans forgive Matt for his outburst? Will Nichols be happy playing here even if they do? Let's give a slow clap to Mike O'Shea for that Brainiac decision & the fallout from it. Seems that it isn't the players that still have a lot to learn. It's O' Shea himself.

Keep in mind we’ve basically taken 4 of 5 wins off backup QB’s (whatever you call Montreal, Franklin x2, Jennings). Not trending well!

Nichols whining is pathetic

Taking Streveler out was a head shaking moment by our HC.

Gutless move by O’Shea to not give Streveler the rest of that drive when we’re down 23, Nichols is hurt and Streveler was having success. Pathetic.

Tom's 65 & he's never coming here. He's an NFL lifer as a coach & why not? The money is phenomenal. I'd be a lifer too if I could coach Ben Roethlesberger & Aaron Rodgers & for an added treat win Super Bowls. I do wish we'd honour Tom, though. He left after the 1987 season because of a contract disagreement with GM Cal Murphy. The first Bomber qb to win a GC after Ken Ploen & 22 years deserves our thanks.

What about his one catch, two drops and poor kick returns where he once even let the ball hit the turf (!) made you think he played reasonably well?

Said this several years ago, LaPo is not a great coordinator. He cannot or at least doesn't seem to adjust as the game goes on and certainly not at half time. He has had the luxury of having Harris in the second half of most games and as was mentioned last night, they appear to be a front running team or at least one that can play when they are close at the half. If they are behind any amount his running game goes down the tubes and he doesn't have a QB who can throw like Harris and for that matte the QB doesn't have the game plan that Ottawa did. In a nutshell we got out coached in all phases of our game. Our defense was terrible and Fogg had probably the worst game of his career. Saylers (not sure how to spell it) did not play well either. The game plan was terrible. Our offense ditto the defense, not prepared and far to heavily weighted on Harris. Our HC, wrong personnel decision: Langford, get rid of him you have at least three others either on the PR or on the sideline that can play better than him. His kick off returns east west instead of north south. Flanders far superior to him in every regard regardless of position. Challenging a play in the first quarter just another dumb coaching move. Too early in the game. The reality is we are a talented team with mediocre stubborn coaching.

Willy hardly got much rope. He got injured partway through his second season and when he sucked in his third season, he was replaced and then traded. What you don’t seem to understand is while Willy sucked, he also had far, far less talent on his teams. If all else were equal at this point, we would be in more or less the same position as we were with Willy. A talented roster masks poor quarterback play but only for so long.

We’ve also gone away from the two running back set that’s brought us so much success. I’ve been told here that Demski fills Flanders role and more, but I’d disagree on that. We need to get Harris and Flanders back in the backfield together, with a guy like Demski running the sweeps. We may not be able to throw the ball, but let’s take some heat off of Harris and use our fantastic two back set to run the ball.

Nichols is soft..like mentally hes soft... The worst thing to happen today was not the loss to Ottawa.. It was the revelation our QB is mentally soft.. Physically broken.. Mentally soft. Damn it. That sucks. When the going gets tough... Our QB cries about it.

On paper, Walters has put together a solid roster. When you have a team with Andrew Harris, Weston Dressler, Darvin Adams, the best o-line in the league, Adam Bighill, Jackson Jeffcoat, Poop Johnson, JSK, and Chris Randle, winning, and winning handily should not be a problem.

You know, Nichols was upset just like we are. I think we need to cool off here before we crucify the guy. As deepsixtoboydsaid the booing is on O'Shea for being stupidly stubborn & putting Matty back in after Streveler threw two straight completions. The guy's had nearly six seasons to learn to be a head coach, the game was over, Nichols had been injured & yet he still pulls dumb stunts like that??? The more this **** happens the more I'm convinced this isn't the coach who'll lead us to a Grey Cup victory. The time for learning on the job is long over.

One pays to watch and the other gets paid to play. Do your job.

Its still far too early to roll with Streveler, but man, if Nichols is still doing his best Trent Dilfer impersonation and we lose the next 3 (which is very much a possibility) than it might be time to see what he can do.

It felt like they were booing the decision to take out Streveler in that situation which was entirely justified.

Matty should stay off social media criticizing fans as he's been treated very good by Bomber fans since he got here. It would be unfortunate if he said something he regretted later. He should talk to Dieter Brock about how cruel fans can be as he was called stupid & dumb for years by a lot of fans here. They were cruel & vicious. Good thing social media didn't exist back in the 70's.

We are NOT a last place team. We are a one & done playoff team. just like the last 2 seasons.

Find it hard to be critical of the DB’s with the amount we blitz Bighill/JSK/Leggett/Loffler on passing downs and play cover zero. Any decent pro QB is going to rip that apart and there’s not much the DB’s can do. Middle of the field is wide open because 6-7 are rushing most passing downs. Can’t expect 5-6 guys to defend the whole field. You’re gambling the blitz gets there, but most often it doesn’t affect the throw.

So he could lose 15 in a row before you’d look at his play?

Wins are a team stat. This Blue Bomber team is as solid up and down as we’ve seen in over a decade. A QB on this team merely has to not blow games to win. The defence has been a problem today, and has had some rough weeks but has actually been much improved from last year and has been good since the first Hamilton game up until tonight. If you think a team can have sustainable success with a QB who can’t hit open guys and throws for under 200 yards more often than he throws for over 300 yards, you’re dreaming. So he’s better than Drew Willy and Justin Goltz and Joey Elliott and even Buck Pierce. So what? We’ve been so jaded to expect garbage from the QB position that we’re blinded by any guy who is even passable. This is a team that has a real chance at success this year with a QB who folds under pressure.

So Danny Barrett, heck of a nice guy, spent 3 years as a QB coach and then took over a really bad Saskatchewan Roughriders club. 2 pretty bad seasons to start things off. Then 5 years in the playoffs with essentially a .500 record and he's let go. Kent Austin comes in and gets them over the top. MOS was a ST coach, takes over Winnipeg when we were really, really bad. 2 losing seasons to start. Then two years in the playoffs losing in round 1. Year 5 seems to be trending towards a .500 mark and a 1 and done in the playoffs. So is MOS our Barrett?

I worry about the young Canadian talent being wasted here. 82 gets the ball he makes plays. 81 has only made plays when given the chance. 13 too in a very brief look. We put Lankford on instead and watch him drop passes and kickoffs repeatedly, leave a kickoff on the turf and then remember it’s live. Man oh man.

I wouldn't say terrible... Just not good enough. Streveler was making much quicker reads tonight and was more accurate. What puzzles me is that he seems to be locking in on guys and forcing throws. Several times tonight he tossed to guys in double coverage meanwhile his next read or Harris were wide open.

Cutting Stafford wasn't really a problem. We need to aim higher than that.

I was at the game today this is what I saw.. Terribly soft defense in first half with zero blitzes soft zone coverage easy pickings. Absolutely terrible game by the refs mostly the tiny short ref was the worst. Lots of mediocre calls on us that killed us. Fogg had the worst game I've ever seen by a bomber db. Absolutely terrible tonight. Bighill is a must read sign he was amazing. Nicholls not seeing wide open guys in front of him. Harris was waaaay better. Fans were absolutely livid at the end when they pulled Streveler. Completely sucked all the energy out of the crowd when they did it. No idea why they because he was making much quicker decisions and wasn't telegraphing his throws. Nichols really locked in on some guys. Lankford succcks try someone else. This defense won't win the big games .. the DBS were burned and the initial gameplan was terrible. Today was a perfect example of how this defense can't stop **** unless the dline gets pressure.

It also doesn't help when you slot in a guy like Ryan Lankford when injuries happen. How many chances does this bum get? When someone gets hurt on Calgary, they put in Begelton. With Edmonton, it's Bryant Mitchell. That is embarrassing roster building.

O'Shea isn't showing he can win us a Grey Cup with some of the decisions he makes. For a guy with 5 1/2 seasons under his belt & he pulls a stunt like that? The handling of the Nichols/ Streveler situation tonight just shows how his stubbornness will be our downfall. Why did he put Nichols back in?? Why wouldn't he play Streveler earlier to get experience? Please don't say the game was still close & taking Nichols out would have meant we gave up. There was no way we were ever going to win this game. This would have been a perfect opportunity to play Streveler to give him much needed experience. One can only hope that Walters speaks to him about what happened & it doesn't happen again. Someone has to talk to O'Shea about this.

My biggest issue with Nichols' whining is its like we owe him something. Yeah sure you try as best you can out there but youve won this city the same thing every other QB has for the last 27 years. Nothing. We pay your 400K salary. When i do a s**tty job at my work my boss tells me. When you do a s**tty job are your work we tell you by booing. Win a playoff game before you whine about respect and what youve done for us.

He’s not wrong if that’s the best answer they have to handle a basic edge blitz.

Without that defense and Harris going off in several games you’re probably looking at a team that beats Montreal and maybe splits with Toronto. This offense ain’t winning ****.

You think that isnt soon enough? Lol with O'Shea he'll probably give Nichols 3 YEARS to figure it out.

That’s something he really has to think about. If your opponent scores multiple 2 point converted touchdowns and you keep kicking 1’s, how do you get those points back? You’re shorting yourself a possession once that gap is 3-4 points just from converts.

He's had far too many of those during his reign.....

Game turned on those 2 consecutive TDs in the 3rd Q. Lousy coverage by Fogg on consecutive plays then the fumble for the score. Game over at that point. Plenty of blame on O and D for the loss.

Yeah. My biggest beef & what pissed me off tonight was the fact MOS kept Nichols in to the very end & not giving Streveler the chance to play. I think that was a totally stupid decision. How does he gain experience? Just a dumbass decision. MOS does **** like that all the time.

Nichols mostly average/mediocre play extends back to the second half of last season. Plenty of average games last year. He was clearly outplayed by Rielly in last year's playoff game getting a good chunk of his passing yards in the final 11 minutes when the Bombers were down by 23 points to Edmonton (playing a prevent defense). Nichols has not had one excellent game this year. If the Bombers had an elite defense, they would have a shot at a Grey Cup with an average QB ie. 1990 Bomber team with Tom Burgess. However, this game is yet another example that is not the case. The defense is mediocre against everyone but the worst teams and will likely continue to be for the rest of the season with several weak spots (Fogg and Loffler) and a defensive coordinator who will not be fired until the end of the season...so Nichols will have to improve substantially for this team to have a shot at winning a playoff game.

The scary part is that Calgary and Edmonton are better than Ottawa. We will have problems splitting with the Riders over the Labor Day back to backs. Calgary will kill us next week.

I know this is a bit of a ridiculous comment from a very frustrated fan (me), but I'm ready to start Shreveler and let him grow and improve. We have to get better. Just really frustrated. And flabbergasted that O Shea would leave Nichols in the game.

Congrats.

Bomber O...2 and out....Hall’s fault...? Bomber O..2 and out Bad D......4 out of 6 .....2 and out on O. Bomber lack of O is going to gas the D out again.

Trevor Harris is 32 years old lol. And he’s hardly a star. It is extremely clear you don’t know what you’re talking about across the board.