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Game Day Thread- Week Sixteen, GAME 14: Winnipeg Blue Bombers @ Eskimos September 29, 2018
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IT"S GAME DAY!!!! Let's demolish the 'shmoes! GAME 14 | WINNIPEG BLUE BOMBERS (6-7) at EDMONTON ESKIMOS (7-6) THE 4-1-1 Kickoff: 6 p.m. CDT, Saturday; Commonwealth Stadium, Edmonton TV: TSN, RDS-2, ESPN+ Radio: CJOB The forecast: Sunny with a high of 6C. Night: clear. Low -6C. Vegas line: The Eskimos are favoured by 6.5 points. Streaks: Winnipeg: 1W; Edmonton: 1L Home/Road: Edmonton is 5-1 at home; the Bombers are 2-4 on the road. Series: The Eskimos lead the all-time series (since 1938) 102-88-3. Recent history: The Eskimos rallied from an eight-point fourth quarter deficit to edge the Bombers 33-30 in the CFL season opener back in June. Edmonton has won two straight against Winnipeg, including last year’s West Division Semi-Final. (Thanks Ed Tait)4 points -
Province Portion of IGF Debt written off
JuranBoldenRules and 3 others reacted to WBBFanWest for a topic
Sorry, not going to play the TBurgess game. Have a great day.4 points -
O'Shea's non-answers
Piggy 1 and 3 others reacted to rebusrankin for a topic
Its a non-issue. Its being handled internally. You guys need to just stay in your Mom's basement until its time to go to McDonalds and salt the fries.4 points -
In that kick off formation Wild is not a returner he is in for blocking. Demski is the returner. Laughing at people saying that O’shea Does not care about returns. That’s his bread and butter he deeply cares about the return struggles. But he won’t broadcast to the world what their troubles are. Think it’s a matter of weeks till Nelson makes his debuts.4 points
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So can we start talking about firing MOS yet?
blue_gold_84 and 3 others reacted to sweep the leg for a topic
We're on a one game winning streak.4 points -
Trending up. 1-0 in their last 1 games!3 points
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US Politics
blue_gold_84 and 2 others reacted to Wanna-B-Fanboy for a topic
If he gets on the SCOTUS- he will eventually be impeached and replaced.3 points -
Lions @ Ti Cats
SpeedFlex27 and one other reacted to Zontar for a topic
Why are they leaving Masoli in2 points -
Bombers cannot, repeat, cannot let the Esks build any sizeable (more than 10 points) lead or let the Esk ground game get untracked. If this happens, we will be boned no matter how much time is left on the clock. This team has not shown the ability to fight back from a deficit as in previous years when the games were often won in the last quarter.2 points
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Game Day Thread- Week Sixteen, GAME 14: Winnipeg Blue Bombers @ Eskimos September 29, 2018
SPuDS and one other reacted to blue_gold_84 for a topic
This. Harris needs to have a big game against a lousy run defense. Nichols needs to play smart. On D, they'll have to contain and pressure Reilly to keep damage through the air to a minimum. Exactly 52 weeks ago to the day, the Bombers went into Edmonton and got a huge win. Hopefully, history will repeat itself tonight.2 points -
Game Day Thread- Week Sixteen, GAME 14: Winnipeg Blue Bombers @ Eskimos September 29, 2018
blue_gold_84 and one other reacted to 17to85 for a topic
Protect the football and force some turnovers. That's how you win in the cfl these days.2 points -
Around The NHL 2018/2019
rebusrankin and one other reacted to Floyd for a topic
What about Les Balenes... instead2 points -
Around The NHL 2018/2019
kelownabomberfan and one other reacted to HardCoreBlue for a topic
Thought I'd gift 17to85 this little tidbit: Anaheim Ducks coach Randy CarlyleLosing Corey Perry for five months makes for some tough sledding out of the gate, but eyebrows were already raised on Carlyle 2.0 in Anaheim after a meek first-round sweep at the teeth of the Sharks. A fresh voice is waiting in the wings in San Diego in Dallas Eakins. Frank Seravalli2 points -
TORONTO 3-9 @ CALGARY 10-2
SpeedFlex27 and one other reacted to Floyd for a topic
Awww... I remember when we all agreed that Pat DelMonaco was a bum - and now he can somehow just take any journeyman and make him into an Allstar OL2 points -
US Politics
Wanna-B-Fanboy and one other reacted to JCon for a topic
This is not a real probe. It's smoke and mirrors. When the FBI find something, the report will be quashed and confirmation will go ahead. It's all for show. They're so morally bankrupt, nothing they do matters.2 points -
So can we start talking about firing MOS yet?
blue_gold_84 and one other reacted to Bigblue204 for a topic
I'm not disputing that. I'm saying all the coaches on this team, are 100% here for the remainder of the year regardless of the outcome of this game.2 points -
So can we start talking about firing MOS yet?
blue_gold_84 and one other reacted to Bigblue204 for a topic
not a chance. This management went an entire season with Etch as D coordinator. They aren't going to fire a head coach who could still make playoffs before the season is over.2 points -
Around The NHL 2018/2019
kelownabomberfan and one other reacted to Rich for a topic
Doan was also the captain of the Coyotes for 14 seasons and the face of the franchise. Thats a huge component as to what he meant to that franchise over Little with the Jets.2 points -
Province Portion of IGF Debt written off
JCon reacted to WBBFanWest for a topic
The cost of IGF was reported as 210 million dollars. The annual Health budget for Manitoba in 2016 was 6.497 billion dollars. So that means that the cost of the stadium was less than three and a half percent of the overall health budget for ONE YEAR. Do you really think that the overall quality of health care in Manitoba would have been impacted in any meaningful way, even for that one year if all that money had been directed, one time to the health portfolio? Now factor in the benefit of having a stadium of that caliber available to those in Winnipeg and to those who might be considering Winnipeg as their home. If you don't want to make people think you are a second rate city, and attempt to attract your share of the best and brightest, you don't skimp on amenities like a quality stadium or a lack of entertainment options like pro sports. Sure it sounds superficial, but people often are.1 point -
Lions @ Ti Cats
SpeedFlex27 reacted to Mr Dee for a topic
And that’s Jennings. As good as he looked last week in that comeback win, he looks absolutely Pu*trid this week. And Posey. He’s better than that isn’t he? Well, isn’t he?1 point -
Lions @ Ti Cats
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Buono is tarnishing his legacy this season.1 point -
TEAM NOTES - WINNIPEG @ EDMONTON GAME #69
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CFL Game #69 Team Notes – Winnipeg at Edmonton: Season series on the line: With Edmonton and Winnipeg one win apart to Week #15, this game will be vital in playoff positioning. Edmonton leads 1-0 and can take the series with another victory. A Blue Bombers' win evens it at 1-1 and would force that to the outcome of the November 3rd contest again at Commonwealth Stadium. A win for Edmonton would give them a series victory over Winnipeg for the 5th time in the last 6 years. Edmonton playoff positioning: The Eskimos have fallen from a 6-3 start and 2nd place to 7-6 one game above .500 and in 3rd behind Saskatchewan with 3 losses in their last 4 games. They are even in the loss column with BC with 6 defeats and again the season series will go down to game #3 in the set (Oct 19th at BC). Reilly at 300+ yards, #10 all-time+: The Eskimos are 5-2 this season when Mike Reilly throws for 300+ yards and 2-4 when he does not. His 7 games of 300+ move him up to 40 for his career which ranks him #10 all-time despite being just #28 in total games started with 91. Winnipeg penalties: The Bombers had a CFL season-low one penalty last week and including declined calls, only two flags. The last time that Winnipeg drew two penalties or less was on Oct 19/07, 11 years ago. They had 2 for 19 yards that day. 5-1 vs 2-5 (+3): The Eskimos have 3 more home than road victories, their largest disparity since 2012 (5-4 vs 2-7, +3). Their largest ever difference between home and away wins is +5 and came on two occasions - 2004 (7-2 vs 2-7) & 1988 (8-1 vs 3-6). Duke Williams 1800-yard pace / 19.1 average: Averaging exactly 100.0 yards per game, Williams is just shy of the Edmonton single-season receiving record held by Brian Kelly. Kelly caught 104 passes for 1,812 yards in 1983 in a 16-game season. Williams' 19.1 yard average per catch is the 2nd-highest by any CFL player since 2001 (Min. 60 receptions) Throwing deep comparison: Though a complicated function of different offensive approaches and receiver corps, here’s a to-head look at passing of 20+ yards or more downfield in 2018 for Mike Reilly and Matt Nichols. More than 1 in 5 of Reilly's throws in 2018 have been deeper than 20+ yards (only Bo Levi Mitchell has had more of his throws be 20+ (25%, 95 of 387 atts). Mike Reilly attempts of 20+ yards passing - 99 of 462 throws. Completed 43. 43.3% Matt Nichols attempts 20+ yards passing - 47 of 285. Completed 16. 34% Winnipeg wire-to-wire / Trailing after Q3: Of the 6 Bombers' wins this year, 4 have been wire-to-wire without trailing at any time. They have led 10 times in 13 games after the 1st Quarter and are 7-3 in those games. They have yet to win a game in 2018 when they have trailed going into the 4th Quarter. 👁🗨 YIKES! - Since 2015 the Bombers are just 3-24 in the 27 times they have trailed after 45:00. Weston Dressler just needs 4 more games with a reception to move ahead of Jamel Richardson to 125 games consecutive. Justin Medlock: Has taken over the CFL lead in punts inside the 10-yd line with 11. He had 7 in all of 2017 and 8 in 2016. At 10.6 points per career game, he ranks #2 behind only Mark McLoughlin (10.7 per gm) and his 1,316 career points is now #18 all-time. Kenbrell Thompkins: Had 94 yards and for the first time was the Bombers' leading receiver in a game. Turnover Record at 28-3: Winnipeg is 6-0 when making fewer Turnovers and 0-7 when making even or more in 2018. Since 2016, Winnipeg is 28-3 when forcing more T/Os.1 point -
Maybe the team had the lead in the 4th... gave up the lead and then we came back and won on the last drive?1 point
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O'Shea's non-answers
blue_gold_84 reacted to Doublezero for a topic
In this interview between the 1 minute mark and 1 min 52 O'Shea is asked why Kevin Fogg hasn't been effective returning the football. The coach says "there are reasons" the return game hasn't been effective and that they are constantly working on things, but, "the things that have gone on" that have limited the return game can't be corrected during the playing season. This kind of non-answer leads to speculation. Is he taking about firing ST Coach Paul Boudreau? Is he talking about an injury to Fogg that will have to be re-habbed (in which case why are you playing him)? Or is he talking about something else entirely? Why should the media and fans have to speculate at all? It's this kind of BS that leads people to conclude that the more they put O'Shea out there in front of the media - the more it hurts the Winnipeg Football Club. https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/09/27/coach-oshea-september-27-2/1 point -
O'Shea's non-answers
blitzmore reacted to blue_gold_84 for a topic
This is how O'Shea has operated since day 1. Is anyone honestly expecting him to do so differently now? As for the return game, the blocking doesn't appear to be as effective in previous years. I don't think that falls on the returner.1 point -
TORONTO 3-9 @ CALGARY 10-2
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CFL-wide Highlights Heading Into Week #16: OT Winning FGs: Last week BC's Ty Long made a 39-yard field goal to defeat Hamilton 35-32 in Overtime. In CFL history, 92 games have been won in OT since the 1986 rule change for regular season play - and of those 92, just 38 have been won with a field goal. Going to OT on a 2-Point Convert: In the 106 regular season Overtime games played since 1986 (92 wins, 14 ties), only THREE of them have ever been sent into OT by a game-tying 2-Point Convert, and just one on the very final play of regulation: 0.00 seconds J.Jennings 3-yard pass to B.Burnham Better Field Position wins 2 out of 3 times: Of the 57 games played in 2018, only 19 have been won by teams with poorer average starting Field Position; 38 have been won by the club with better starting points for their drives or 67% of the time. Making more "big plays": In 2018, the team that has made even or more long-gainer, "big plays" has won the game 43 times out of 57 games. Only 14 times in 57 games has a team making fewer "big plays" won the game (just 24% of the time). Lewis Ward 37 FGs in a row: Ward has not missed a FG attempt since the season opener and is now 40-for-41 97% with a streak of 37 makes in a row, the 2nd-longest streak ever made & longest within a single season. His 37 in a row is 2 back of Rene Paredes' 39 straight across 2012-13. Ward's 97.6% mark is ahead of the CFL record set by Paredes at 94.7% in 2013 (54-of-57). One more thing ...: After reaching 29 in a row in 2013, Rene Paredes had one blocked on July 20, 2013 by Montreal's John Bowman. By the rules of the day however (and that had been in place since 1967), no FG attempt was charged to Calgary since the ball did not cross the line of scrimmage. Paredes went on to extend his streak to 39 straight. 👁🗨 I distinctly remember this game and how his streak was allowed to continue. I called bullshirt then. I’m glad they changed it, but Paredes still gets his streak. The CFL changed the rule to start 2014 whereby any FG attempt that is blocked results in an 0-for-1 since a legal FG attempt was clearly attempted and was NOT successful. This rule will be re-visited in the 2018 off-season by our Rules Committee however with the proposal being that only the TEAM be charged with an attempt and NOT the kicker himself in these cases. This will permit the CFL to consider if Ty Long's current streak would still be deemed as being active (his only recent miss was blocked FG). Marcus Thigpen multiple 80+ yard runs: Thigpen has now recorded two runs of 80+ yards this season - the first time in 24 years that a CFL player had more than one in a single season. The last was Cory Philpot in 1994 for BC with TD runs of 87 and 92 yards (Aug 11/94, Aug 27/94). Before that Jim Thomas 2 in 1965, Willie Fleming 2 in 1963 and Ed Buchanan 2 in 1962. Other CFL-wide Trends Heading Into Week #16: 7 FGs in a game: Another aspect of Ward's outstanding season is that he has had two games of 7 FGs made including last week vs Saskatchewan. Ward joins only three other players to ever record TWO games of 7+ FGs made in the same year. In fact, Ward is the only one among the four kickers to be a perfect 7-for-7 in each game. Calgary in the playoffs?: The Stampeders can claim a playoff spot for a club record 14th consecutive season with a win this week. That would tie Ottawa (1956-69) for the 7th-longest streak in Canadian Football history. West vs East: The West Division has clinched the series vs Eastern clubs with 22 interlocking wins to 11. That makes it 15 times in the last 17 years that the West has prevailed (2004 & 2015 the exceptions). The 4th and 5th place clubs in the West each have 6 wins and are currently in position to claim a Cross-Over berth for the third year in a row for the first time. Mike Reilly 55 TD/ 5900+ yard Pace: Has accounted for 37 TDs this year, 26 passing/11 rushing. The CFL record for rushing TDs by a Quarterback is 14 by Doug Flutie (1991 BC) followed by Kerry Joseph (13, 2007) and Reilly himself at 12 last year. The combined pass/rush TD record is dominated by Flutie who has the 4 best years - 1994: 56 (48/8), 1993: 55 (44/11), 52 twice. Reilly is on pace for 55 combined TDs this year and a record 16 rushing TDs. His passing yard pace is for 5,914 yards. CFL Game #67 Team Notes – Toronto at Calgary: 1-point games: Including last week, the Argos have now had 4 games this year where the final margin was just one point. They are 2-2 in one-point games in 2018 (3 of which were started by McLeod Bethel-Thompson) - the CFL record for most games decided by one point in a season is 6 by Ottawa in 1993 (2-4 record). The CFL record for WINS by one point in a single season was set by Winnipeg in 1961 with 4. Fridays Off: This is the first time all season that the Stamps will be playing on a Friday night - they have just two Friday games in 2018 and 11 on Saturdays. This will be Toronto's 5th Friday Night Football event of 2018 - and all of them on the road. Avoiding 5 losses in a row: The Argos are on a 4-game losing streak, the longest ever in a single season for Coach Marc Trestman. He had only two 3-game losing streaks for Montreal from 2008 to 2012, and now has three for Toronto across 2017-18. The last time the Argos lost at least 5 in a row was the final 7 games of 2016. 9 in a row: The Stampeders have won the last 9 games against Toronto - all starts for QB Bo Levi Mitchell who is 9-0 vs the Argos. In all but one of the 9 straight wins, Calgary has built at least a 14-point lead. None of the last 5 encounters have gone down to the last 3:00 and Calgary's average margin over those 5 games has been 22.6 points. 11-1 Off a Bye: Calgary comes in off a bye week to play Toronto - they are 11-1 in post-bye games since 2011. Before their 40-27 defeat at Regina on Aug 19/18 after Bye #2 in 2018, they last lost in 2005 after a week off. Calgary T/O Ratio, +17 to -5: In their first 7 games they were at a +17 Ratio, #1 in the CFL; since then the Stamps are at -5. 13 Toronto QB Sacks: With just 13 Sacks the Argos trail the rest of the CFL. They are on pace for 19 this year which would be the 2nd lowest recorded in CFL history. Bo Levi Mitchell pace: Mitchell is on pace to set a career-high with 5,445 passing yards this year. He is averaging 302.5 yards per game, second only to his 316.8 per game in 17 starts in 2016. He leads the CFL with a 3.00 to 1 TD Pass to Interception Ratio in 2018 however, the only downside being that 3 of his 9 INTs have been returned for 'pick 6's' in 2018. Mitchell All-Time QB Win % / TD Pass Streak: Following Calgary's last win, Bo Levi Mitchell's career winning % is now 66-12-2 .838 with a 10-2 .875 mark in 2018. Mitchell's record as a starter at McMahon Stadium is even better at 37-4 .902. He also has an active 13-game TD pass streak back to 2017 (his career-long streak is 21). He now ranks #24 with 22,979 career passing yards with Danny Barrett next ahead at 23,419. He is on pace to reach the Top 20 by season's end. 1st Down will be a key: This game features the club that has allowed the fewest average yards on 1st down plays (Calgary at just 5.5 yards) vs the club that allowed the most on average (Toronto at 7.7 yards). On Offence, Calgary is #2 averaging 7.2 yards on 1st down, Toronto #7 at 6.1 yards per play. Singleton & Thurman: Singleton now has a CFL-best 79 tackles (tied for #1) but in 12 games has the highest season-long pace at 6.6 per game which would make for 118 by year's end. That would give him back-to-back 118+ tackle seasons. Jameer Thurman is #8 in the CFL with a career-high 77 Total Defensive Plays, already 4 more than in 2017 with 6 games left. Romar Morris: Has scored 5 TDs in his last 2 games and rolled up 271 yards from scrimmage in the process. S. J. Green: Recorded his 3rd game of 100+ yards last week with 6 catches for 106 yards. He now ranks #30 all-time with 8,804 yards and is in sight of the 9,000-yard mark (8,804). With 39 yards he can pass Ray Alexander (8,842) for #29 all-time. McLeod Bethel-Thompson: Made his 6th straight start last week and set a career-high with 321 yards, his second 300+ game of the season. James Wilder Jr.: Ranks #4 in the CFL in rushing with 665 yards on pace for just under 1,000 this season (997). His receiving yards picked up with 74 last week and his pace there is for 781 by the end of the year. _______________________________________________________________________________________1 point -
So can we start talking about firing MOS yet?
B-F-F-C reacted to blue_gold_84 for a topic
Nah, there is no approach. Don't try and deflect from your error. What I said is your statement the team is currently on a losing skid is not accurate. They just won, thereby ending the losing skid.1 point -
Province Portion of IGF Debt written off
TBURGESS reacted to Blueandgold for a topic
This was bound to happen. The pay method was unsustainable.1 point -
Where's this new kid Boobie something or other...Apparently he's a burner and a darn good receiver.. Haven't heard a bloody thing about him since we signed him...Taking into account our pathetic return game...why isn't he in instead of a nic'd Fogg...Look for more dismal field position on our returns with our patented 'catch and flop' act...I don't understand why we can't find a way to inject these signed guys into the lineup after they've been here for awhile.. Other clubs can find a prospect and get them into a game pronto...I guess it's the old loyalty act from our not so illustrious head coach...even if the guy who needs to be replaced is entering the game on one leg he trots them out...I hope we can win tonight but hope is fading and with that the prospects for our head coach continuing on here..You'd think he'd be pulling out all the stops...1 point
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O'Shea's non-answers
Noeller reacted to Doublezero for a topic
And how'd that work for us? Another brilliant scheme that got us all the way up to our own 25 yard line on most returns. But yeah, let's wait til the off-season to fix it. If things continue on this trajectory then, obviously, chances are good that it won't be O'Shea who'll be doing the off-season fixing.1 point -
So can we start talking about firing MOS yet?
B-F-F-C reacted to Bigblue204 for a topic
Especially if said fans had no idea how football works. You're right.1 point -
US Politics
Mark F reacted to The Unknown Poster for a topic
I wonder if he’d consider withdrawing rather then face complete disgrace. If he’s guilty....1 point -
Right but Fogg was injured. He was always going to be the scratched guy last two weeks. Fenner has been the backup DB the last several weeks.1 point
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O'Shea's non-answers
blitzmore reacted to Doublezero for a topic
Ya O'Shea appears not to care about the return game. I felt ripped off when I saw Demski and Wild paired as returners vs Alouettes. I guess that's why they have a couple of returners in tryouts right now. Sign them in the off-season and look to next year. Seems like its always next year around here. Lots of season tix holders I know are not renewing next year however.1 point -
The reason the return game doesn’t work is because we don’t have any great kick returners dressed literally ever. And Fogg unfortunately is not the punt returner he once was. It’s extremely clear that O’Shea doesn’t care about the return game at this point with the way he constructs the roster but on the other hand, it’s difficult to waste a spot on a guy who only returns with roster size as small as it is.1 point
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I remember the days of candor from coaches (and not being afraid that it was giving away anything or melting the snowflakes).1 point
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Expecting candor from O'Shea is like expecting milk from a grape.1 point
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That's quite the assessment on a guy who's played two games... and Simonise has proven he's better - umm....?? If the bombers thought an extra INT DB was so important, we'd probably still have Priester on the roster... No I'd rather have Washington ready in case Adams or Dressler goes down1 point
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US Politics
blue_gold_84 reacted to The Unknown Poster for a topic
Yup. They are so **** scared of the fbi1 point -
Practise Observations
BigBlueFanatic reacted to JCon for a topic
OMG, the refs been knocked out... Wait, what's Bighill pulling out of his elbow brace... is that... is that brass knuckles... omg he's knocked out Reilly and ref didn't see it... he's pinning him. 1, 2, 3... we have a new world champion.. as God as my witness...1 point -
I agree... can go with Miles or Briggs as an emergency fill in for Bighill... Wild is a great teamer but Flanders adds more to the offense than Wild does ST...1 point
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Province Portion of IGF Debt written off
SPuDS reacted to WBBFanWest for a topic
You sir, are confused.1 point -
Random News Items
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Province Portion of IGF Debt written off
Blueandgold reacted to TBURGESS for a topic
To those who said this would happen in the first place and got roasted on these boards for daring to say it... Congrats. You were right.1 point -
Crossover Standings after Week 14
Wanna-B-Fanboy reacted to rebusrankin for a topic
How many men are you allowed on the field again? 🤣1 point -
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