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AS someone who has first hand knowledge of this from my past...as have used..and saw back when teams actually encouraged and administered to you if you wanted and it so I have to side with Andrew for a few reasons Teams gave a very thorough tutorial so to speak on what each drugs duration in your system was and where it would show test wise..blood..urine and the drugs half life. Also from testing protocol when urine and blood test are administered...and came back clean like they did then the athlete wasn't using...the only other thing that could be done above and beyond that to go one step further is fat samples as it lingers there...but that is never done ...and then a subsequent urine test 10 days later came back with minimal traces of it showing??...makes no sense and has to be some type of contamination or a bad test....even with an oral steroid taken immediately after his first test..the weakest of the weak would show large amounts in system for at least 14 days...undeniable amounts Also the drug he is apparently accused of is pretty much impossible to get now...more or less discontinued other than from black market suppliers...And I have never heard of a professional athlete going that route to get a drug...basically not made from a legit producer...way to many risks in that. Thats also why we got an extensive list of supplement companies as well where their "proprietary" blends of ingredients didn't actually say what amount of what was in it..or even if all ingredients are even listed..also as odd as it may seem that industry isn't even regulated, and companies can put whatever they want in their stuff without any recourse, or inspection and things are only pulled off shelves or investigated after reports of questionable things....sadly a lot of time that is deaths or serious health issues14 points
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Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
deepsixemtoboyd and 12 others reacted to bearpants for a topic
I disagree... let's start McGuire at QB and Streveller at RB.... 😂13 points -
Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
deepsixemtoboyd and 9 others reacted to Rod Black for a topic
Let’s piss and moan about losing AH for a couple of games. Include how wrong he was to get caught. Add, he deserves it, the league is out to get him, or any other opinion that pops up. The way to get through this is handled as best it can by Wade Miller. As an organization, move on, nose to the grindstone next two weeks, focus on preparation for the opposition. Get a couple of wins, stay in first, and this gets behind the squad.10 points -
Hey did you guys hear that @Booch is accusing Harris of buying black market drugs*?! * this message is brought to you by "taking quotes out of context" 😉10 points
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**** it, he’s innocent!9 points
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Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
66 Chevelle and 8 others reacted to Mike for a topic
Everyone is going to defend this because it’s Andrew Harris and we are Bomber fans but let’s get real. He tested positive because he did it. They don’t just throw Dianabol into supplements, you don’t just whoopsie daisy your way into consuming it. The reality is whatever he was taking to mask it, he messed up and he got popped. And I say that as a huge Harris fan. But let’s not cover our eyes and ears and ignore reality just because he’s a Bomber.9 points -
looking ahead-LDC
M.O.A.B. and 7 others reacted to blue_gold_84 for a topic
Looks like he has two. 😉8 points -
As if any Rider fan could pull this Mission Impossible level of deception. Lucky if they cut the hole in the watermelon big enough to fit their heads.8 points
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Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
blue_gold_84 and 7 others reacted to max power for a topic
I'm pretty surprised at all the CFL players and media guys from other cities taking shots at Harris. Surprised mostly at the players... you don't see a lot of that in other sports. Can you imagine Crosby tweeting out shots at Kuznetsov, laughing at him? To me, things like that make the CFL look more minor league than anything. I mean, Jordan Reaves, really.... Just when the Rider fans have something to lord over the Bombers, he basically stands up and shouts to the world "DON'T FORGET ABOUT ME, I GOT CAUGHT SELLING COKE!".8 points -
I sent you that picture for personal use only. Just reppin my gainz8 points
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Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
BigBlueFanatic and 6 others reacted to BomberfanMKS for a topic
Here is the thing - O'Shea is parroting this line about trace amounts 10 days after a clean test means it was unintentional. Does anything we've seen from O'Shea as our head coach over the last couple years give you the impression he would protect someone he thought was intentionally cheating? IMO - If O'Shea thought Harris was purposefully taking banned substances the BEST the club could get him to say to protect Harris would be "I won't comment". He wouldn't be talking about having Harris at practices surrounded by his teammates, because (IMO) he'd be advocating for cutting the guy.7 points -
Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
deepsixemtoboyd and 6 others reacted to 17to85 for a topic
I want to believe Harris, but that's the oldest excuse in the book... I don't know enough to know anything so I'll just focus on yet another bomber backup stepping in and doing the job.7 points -
Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
Eternal optimist and 6 others reacted to MOBomberFan for a topic
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Oops we put dbol in the protein powder again7 points
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Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
the watcher and 5 others reacted to Mr Dee for a topic
One man’s opinion Bob Irving (@BobIrvingCJOB) Tweeted: My position on Andrew Harris—I know how hard he trains, how dedicated he is and I refuse to believe he would risk tarnishing his image and legacy by knowingly taking steroids. Virtually all players use supplements and it’s entirely believable one could be contaminated.6 points -
Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
johnzo and 5 others reacted to Super Duper Negatron for a topic
Also, further evidence that this team is cursed and will never win a Grey Cup. Also one more reason not to watch the LDC this weekend. Damn melon heads are going to be strutting around like they are cock of the walk, when in fact they are cock of nothing!6 points -
Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
kelownabomberfan and 4 others reacted to Bigblue204 for a topic
And we're STILL better then the riders.5 points -
so you are just choosing to argue with someone who professes to know that world? That is the height of ignorance. Now I dunno whether or not Harris is telling the truth or not, we have all heard the "I didn't know, must be my supplements!" excuse before enough times to be immediately doubtful, however if you read Booch without any biases what he says can make sense. Again I ain't passing any judgements because I know that I don't know enough to form an opinion one way or the other. But I do know that arguing with someone who does know enough is pretty foolish.5 points
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Booch is doing the trick in easing my concerns on this matter. Seems you really know what you're talking about. Is there anyone in the public eye willing to make the same claims?5 points
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Those effen Russians have it in for the bombers: - Matthews out for for way too long without playing a game. Win first five games. - Bighill injured but “good to go” and still misses games. - Nichols, criticized for not throwing for more than 300 yards and team remains in first place. - Matthews stabbed in a Saturday night bar room brawl. He doesn’t bleed. - Nichols injured placed on 6 game IR. - Streveler starts in place of #15. Runs for more yards than passing yards. Team out scores first place contender to solely be in first place. Them russians cant figure the Blue out. Black Helicopters, Black Volga’s can’t make the Bombers rollover. This team is buildt with depth.5 points
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Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
deepsixemtoboyd and 4 others reacted to rebusrankin for a topic
I'm torn but for now I am in the no excuses, you got caught camp. Totally disappointing. Frustrated too because to me it helps the Riders but then again maybe we use it as a rallying point. Can we get Dave Ritchie in to do an its us against the world speech?5 points -
Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
CodyT and 4 others reacted to sweep the leg for a topic
First response was, "Jordan, are you still selling coke?" That was pretty funny...5 points -
The **** are you talking about? You don't get time served if you get popped😄 Fact: it doesn't matter how many times you tested clean when you then test positive It's not a good look, but I'm not condemning the guy.5 points
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Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
NorthernSkunk and 4 others reacted to Bigblue204 for a topic
Will be so awesome when Augustine puts up 160 yards on those ***** ass riders.5 points -
You mean he fully explains what his fake excuse is.5 points
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thing is...I know the steroid use scene..testing...how and what to take..mgs...clearing system period..on and on as I did it..lived through it..researched it...I could go on and on...the specific one he took...would not have left his system between the 2 tests...being it an oral would have to be taken daily..or every other day depending on how you spread out your dosage...is a bulking agent and serves no use for a skilled position player..also of note Harris is playing at a lighter weight..it also causes serous water retention and you would see it...especially in the face. and most likely he'd be more susceptible to injury when on it...it drys out your tendons and you lose flexibility...things a RB would not want People are quick to judge..and sadly this will hang over him, but it isn't the reason he is still going strong...and pretty sure most haters will say he must have a better masking agent (and by the way Dbol as an antiquated roid can't be masked) when he comes back...just as good...probably better after his suspension cause he is gonna be playing pissed off now. Thigpen btw was a totally different situation...he got caught with it full blown in his system and couldn't dispute it...so no **** he tool it like a man..had no choice...and it was a very mainstream drug that is rampant in sports..especially football...not some old school Golds Gym glory days bulking drug...like gimme a break But the haters are gonna hate regardless....have a look on the internet as I am sure they have it in the flatlands and research the amount of Supplements that have been discovered to have banned stuff in them..not listed on the label...you'de be shocked4 points
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Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
BigBlueFanatic and 3 others reacted to captaincanuck12 for a topic
A very good article indeed. I'm of the opinion this wasn't intentional, as Harris does seem very contrite and apologetic. The fact that the head coach and several of his teammates backed him up seems to reinforce this wasn't intentional. Yes I understand solidarity and such, but if he was a cheat, you think others would be willing to go on a limb to sacrifice their reputation. That being said, when you live in the limelight, every action you undertake is scrutinized, and every black mark you encounter enlarged and dissected under a microscope. That's the pro athlete life. One bad thing can wipe away 10 good things. It's unfortunate that this happened to him and everything he has and will do gets marked with an asterisk.4 points -
Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
comedygeek and 3 others reacted to BomberfanMKS for a topic
Yeh watch the media availability... unless Harris is one hell of an actor/liar he really comes across as sincerely believing he got unlucky with a bad supplement. Note - He won't say what he took exactly because he can't prove that's where the contamination came from and the manufacturer could sue him for defamation if he called them out. He'd have no recourse naming them without explicit proof.4 points -
Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
blue_gold_84 and 3 others reacted to 17to85 for a topic
Hey Kilkenny is a solid beer.4 points -
Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
blue_gold_84 and 3 others reacted to Arnold_Palmer for a topic
Pretty immature of all these other players going at him knowing full well it could have been them. He got caught and has to deal with the consequences but these players would be wise to keep their mouth shut.4 points -
looking ahead-LDC
MOBomberFan and 3 others reacted to rebusrankin for a topic
All I can say is after the news this morning, thank goodness, weed is legal.4 points -
Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
TBURGESS and 3 others reacted to M.Silverback for a topic
Well, this is expected.4 points -
Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
blue_gold_84 and 3 others reacted to Bigblue204 for a topic
And you know the whole....selling cocaine thing lol. That boy is a fool. Wants to be a pro but is just too much of entitled child. I don't know him personally, but I know the crowd he hangs out with in Winnipeg, his overall demeanor and attitude never surprises me. He's a full on pretender.4 points -
GDT - Bombers vs Esks
Rod Black and 3 others reacted to Wanna-B-Fanboy for a topic
The fact we are the least penalized team is testament to the above.4 points -
Riders are a pretty good team, they have some weapons and some weak spots. I think the Bombers have what it takes to get the W, but I’m logically assuming a split just like I do every year. I feel like we have the advantage at the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball, which is huge for us in a battle of backup quarterbacks. The key will be whether or not the environment gets to Streveler. either way, I’ll be there to find out again this year. Favorite weekend of the year for me.4 points
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Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
deepsixemtoboyd and 2 others reacted to M.Silverback for a topic
Agree. It was a hot take at the time by Hecht. If you're going to have such a hot take, you look a little silly when this kind of stuff happens on your own team, whether Harris is "guilty" or not.3 points -
Dbol...an older steroid if masked..the masking agent is detectable...newer drugs though not so much...and a trace amount showing after a clean test...10 days later would do nothing for an athlete..and even if he took what would be the required 10-20 mg dose orally at the very very least to get any benefit would have been 5 days of dosing and would have showed up as a full concentration as that oral would take a minimum of 14 days from last dose and the liver filtering it to be undetected other than maybe trace amounts still in fat cells...and the fat cell test is never done I believe him...as I as well as many others knew how to circumvent the NCAA testing back in the day...because you knew when you would be tested, so I have a good handle on time lines and doses3 points
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Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
TBURGESS and 2 others reacted to Fatty Liver for a topic
Sorry Dr. Zaius I suspect you're not a real doctor, we should wait for a second opinion from Dr. CFL.3 points -
Jordan Reaves is pure trash3 points
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Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
M.Silverback and 2 others reacted to Booch for a topic
trace amounts as well...would do nothing to enhance anything...so why even risk that...you need at least 25 to 100 mg of any substance every other day depending on how you took it (oral/injection) for any benefit..3 points -
Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
TBURGESS and 2 others reacted to Super Duper Negatron for a topic
If you assume that almost every other player is doing it, it makes it easier.3 points -
Wonder what Jeff Hecht will have to say about this...3 points
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looking ahead-LDC
blue_gold_84 and 2 others reacted to O2L for a topic
And my favourite: Q: Which team won the final LDC at Old Toilet Bowl stadium? A: Winnipeg Blue Bombers3 points -
looking ahead-LDC
BigBlueFanatic and 2 others reacted to Floyd for a topic
Our DL is going to destroy Fajardo3 points -
looking ahead-LDC
Piggy 1 and 2 others reacted to kelownabomberfan for a topic
6 - take bets on the number of marriage proposals those girls get by half-time.3 points -
Argos/Als
rebusrankin and 2 others reacted to WBBFanWest for a topic
Actually, they are the front water of Canada3 points -
looking ahead-LDC
BigBlueFanatic and 2 others reacted to Wanna-B-Fanboy for a topic
No kidding, we lost last year's LDC- but, we have the first ever regular season win and first ever play off win at new mosaic toilet bowl. We are now answers to CFL trivia: Q: Which team won the first regular season game at new Mosaic TB, home field of the sask roughriders?" A: "The Winnipeg Blue Bombers." Q: Which team won the first Playoff game at new Mosaic TB, home field of the sask roughriders?" A: "The Winnipeg Blue Bombers."3 points -
looking ahead-LDC
M.Silverback and 2 others reacted to JuranBoldenRules for a topic
If I'm scheming for Fajardo I'm letting him have all day in the pocket (not blitzing LB's) and forcing him to be accurate downfield, dropping 8-9 in coverage most of the time. We can get pressure with 3-4. Sask is really relying on quick shots out to the flats to guys like Shaq Evans and Kyran Moore.3 points -
NFL Coming to Winnipeg for Preseason Game
voodoochylde and 2 others reacted to SpeedFlex27 for a topic
Luck was booed off the field at halftime at Lucas Oil Stadium last night when word got out that he was retiring. Someone from the Colts organization (Irsay?) leaked the retirement to Jason La Canfora & he tweeted it immediately which Colts fans began learning about during the game. Angry Colts fans began taking off their Andrew Luck jerseys & started booing the guy. Luck was going to announce his retirement Sunday at a press conference in Indy but was forced to do it after the game. The man had an unfortunate series of injuries one right after the other & he just felt he couldn't go on with the pain anymore so he decided to retire. I never criticize an athlete for any decision he/she makes when it comes to injuries. They have a right to choose their own destiny & happiness in life so the booing last night was really sad.3 points