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"Raising the issue" would be simply asking the question "Should Americans vote on letting COVID-19 run its course?" FULL STOP. This piece uses such inflammatory one-sided language that the author has essentially answered his own question with a resounding "YES!". Most overt example of the bias in this article is the leading question: "As control of our own lives and some of our very freedoms are taken from us “for our own good,” do we have the right to make our voices heard?" A counter-opinion question might be "As we are being handed heavy does of mis-information falsely accusing the media of overhyping the disease and spouting as-yet-unproven doom-and-gloom scenarios about the collapse of Western civilization based on a one week dip in the stock market, should the public just sit back and heed the words of medical experts as opposed to jumping on the bandwagon of financial analysts in the pockets of big business and a corrupt President who has no expertise in the area of pandemics and exposing themselves to unnecessary risk just to serve those who are putting a dollar value on human life for their own greed?" But because a question mark is put at the end of the leading, clearly slanted opinion, it's OK right? I mean, we're not saying America is being held hostage by a Government who have trampled on our civil liberties, we're just asking. Jon Stewart did a piece on this a few years ago on The Daily Show to expose this media trick. Unfortunately Comedy Central won't release the video, but his satire was much more clever than this opinion piece, which doesn't even try to be subtle. And if the simple question was asked without the slant, the answer should still probably be "no". Direct democracy via referendum on everything doesn't work. Case in point, Hal Anderson is the 34th Greatest Canadian simply because he had a platform to get his vote out. Also, Stockwell Day floated this idea back in the day, saying if a plurality of Canadians (350,000 people was his target) petitioned on an issue, it should be forced to go to an automatic vote. "This Hour Has 22 Minutes" then put out a petition saying people should vote on forcing Stockwell Day to legally change his first name to "Doris". The petition got 370,000 votes in no time.

You're asking the same people who thought Trump would be a good president to vote on this?

Apples and oranges - or just borderline trolling.

Honestly we should just ask Dr. Strange how this all turns out.

Nah, the virus will be over & done with in 3 weeks. C'mon get with the program. Dr Floyd says so.

You’re comparing football injuries & a few critical sports fans to how people react to a pandemic. That’s just obtuse.

It is because of social distancing that the curve is flattening. We can't just stop our measures the moment the curve begins to flatten. Returning to normal by Easter or May would certainly make it get out of hand again. 6 months is the magic number for social distancing measures to successfully ensure that the healthcare system doesn't get overwhelmed. And that is provided that we are meeting our targets.

You're a real piece of work. Glad others here get to see it.

The real person to call is Dr. Feelgood. He's the one that makes you feel alright.

Everyone who thinks the masses will support what they want think the masses should vote. Thats why you have elections. The idea of referendums on everything is stupid.

Obviously you cant let the masses vote on something that impacts the health of others. People are often selfish. Also, anyone still whining about COVID vs Flu are just burying their head in the sand. Seasonal flu has 30,000-60,000 deaths per year in the US. I believe thats October to May, so7-8 months. We're barely three months into this with massive social distancing and lockdowns and over 10,000 deaths. But yeah, no one cares about the flu and this is all a hoax. Id look to see what Trump buddy or company is connected to that drug he keeps pushing. It also could be Trump is just a simpleton so he hears that maybe a drug not approved or tested, could have some positive impact and just goes nuts on it. If it did work, he'd claim to be a miracle worker. if it doesnt, he'd just deny he ever said it.

It’s not panic. It would become panic if we take our foot off the pedal too early, basically like you’re suggesting. I bet you’d feel a lot different if you are a carrier or become infected because you caught it from someone who doesn’t believe what’s happening..

He desperately wants a magic elixir to cure this so he can look like a hero. If he touts this drug when all the experts say it's not proven yet and more testing confirms that it can be a treatment then it further feeds his ego and he can say "See I know more than these eggheads". Trump is the least complex person going. It's dead simple to peg his motivations because the only thing that motivates him is his own ego, greed and need to be validated by others. Kiss his ass shamelessly and he'll love you. Disagree with him or even question him and you are the worst person in the world.

Are you off your meds? WTF does that mean? You sound more & more like an idiot with every post.

Dozo the clown and the good doctor..

Who can afford to take a year off work? I wouldn't be surprised if we lost a very large number of players who decide to move on.

Should we just be blaming all this on him

Then again, we could ask this guy.

Who cares, right? Cena has become what he criticized The Rock for years ago. Gone Hollywood. Turned his back on the fans. Says he'll never leave but does. I don't begrudge the guy the life & career he has but it looks pretty comical now. You & I have talked about Bray Wyatt before. You know I'm not a fan of his at all because what he does is all so contrived & predictable. I'm sure once his Evil Clown routine runs its course, there's always the Evil Ghost Hunter or Evil Casper The Ghost. .

And the Electric Mayhem (Dr. is on the keyboards, Animal on drums, Zoot on saxophone, Floyd on guitar, and Janice on vocals)

I didn't think anyone would be in favor of letting the virus run it's course or for having a vote on it. Sweden chose this path, doesn't mean all their medical experts are quacks, it's just another approach.

BC game Geroy Simon became all time yardage leader. The Hamiton game is Milt breaking the TD record.

Ah, but this is asking for a straight one person - one vote system. Trump would not be President based on that approach.

Trump lashes out at NYT, WaPost amid criticism of coronavirus response https://thehill.com/homenews/media/491328-trump-lashes-out-at-nyt-wapost-amid-criticism-of-coronavirus-response Well, he better re-load the Twitter...... U.S. ‘wasted’ months before preparing for virus pandemic https://apnews.com/090600c299a8cf07f5b44d92534856bc As Trump administration debated travel restrictions, thousands streamed in from China https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-nsc/as-trump-administration-debated-travel-restrictions-thousands-streamed-in-from-china-idUSKBN21N0EJ

Sure why not, no matter the death toll those in power will always have access to the resources to protect themselves and their families from the worst circumstances of their actions. No worries for the multitude of citizens who could potentially die in their homes with no access to treatment, once their health care system is overwhelmed. Katrina?....Katrina who???

This is just an opinion, https://townhall.com/columnists/douglasmackinnon/2020/03/22/should-america-vote-on-letting-covid19-run-its-course-n2565441 but it does raise the issue.

it's just crazy to me that anyone is concerned about the economy when there's lives at stake. I get that we need to at least keep in mind how the world will operate once this is all over, but right now to be thinking that it's more important to restart the economy than it is to save lives......that is just bonkers.

Trump's personality cannot conceive that he can be wrong about any concept he has , no matter how obviously flawed it is. His self-concept is based on his infallibility and if that is proven false, he would have to admit being mortal, and his ego cannot tolerate that. Therefore, he will continue to propose that he is an expert at everything, and defend it to the end.

Hope for the best.

I love how wild this thread has got. By the time football rolls around we won’t even want to talk to each other in the bombers threads haha

I heard that there's surgery for dangling pardons.

That is one hell of a stretch... you appear to be purposefully obtuse to "win" your argument.

Like I said, it's great to see the real you. You're on a real roll tonite with just about everybody.

Sorry man - I over-stepped... I should have just blamed Trudeau.

1) I was not JUST arguing that Canada is not doing well. I have NEVER made that argument. I have argued that those who have said that the measures taken are unnecessary because it is media hype are ignoring the seriousness of the threat and not following the raw data on the exponential progression of the spread. You wanted to, in my mind, minimize the risk by saying the fatality rate was only 0.017%, according to your own data, and you were flat out wrong in reading your own stats. The lockdown is working, but where you and I may differ is that you act like the measures can now stop because it has worked and we are out of the woods. I see it getting worse before it gets better, based on where the curve is going now and based on how other countries who started feeling the effects of the virus months ahead of us have turned out. If it is starting to plateau, great, but that means we stay the course until the threat has really passed rather than saying back to work since we are on top of it today. 2) Given your accusation of me flip-flopping on arguments, thought I’d refresh your memory on your time frame for the passing of the virus in your opinion. In the span of one day and 3 posts you went from Easter to start of May to June as the all clear period So you can’t even hold to your own story when it is questioned. 3) Just for the record, I do have a Government job, as does my wife. We are both essential services, me for law enforcement and her in a health care being called to multiple hospitals to care for patients, including testing patients for Covid 19. So neither of us are sitting in our house collecting a cheque, we don’t get that option to work from home and are forced to still go into the community at large and expose ourselves every day to those who may her the virus, certainly her more than me. We’ve even moved out of our house and are living in cottage country so as to separate ourselves from our kids to protect them. She is a nervous wreck every day leaving the house, and because the governing health agency has decided masking is not essential for health care workers, and they won’t employ the use of the filtered masks, and won’t test every person who shows symptoms because they may not qualify (ie did not also travel), she has had to buy her own limited supply of 95 grade masks and filters out of her pocket. Not sure what she’ll do when she runs out.

I'm not. But close. Just remember you could be diagnosed with something sinister next week & your life changes for the bad regardless of your age. Young men & women who thought they were more invincible than you had their lives changed by a visit to their doctor. Moms & Dads with young families. Or parents of little kids having to watch them be sick or worse. My wife sees it everyday at the Tom Baker Cancer Centre in Calgary. Adults in their 20's, 30's & 40's taken years before they should have been. So, this worthless old age stuff you keep spouting as some kind of Red Badge Of Courage for you because you're still young means nothing. It just means I made it further in life than you have.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/4/21207927/5g-towers-burning-uk-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory-link

What does one have to do with the other?

I mean you guys do see the irony of a forum that consistently is like 'oh he's 29 years old and lost a step... buh bye' and then actually makes fun of guys who can't keep up or have long-term injuries... But now we're freaking out about anyone who questions shutting down society for a virus that targets specifically the old and the weak...

Trumperisms...

Personally I always thought the Smith DBs for the Argos in 1997 had a pretty cool nickname as the Bermuda Triangle.

There is simply not enough evidence to show that this approach would work. Why? Because healthy people appear to be the biggest carriers. Maybe this is not what you’re saying with all these posts you are making, but it is what I am hearing: “We can choose to live freer, riskier lives for ourselves. We cannot choose that others live shorter lives for our benefit. It takes a special kind of moral and spiritual blindness to fail to see the difference.”

Hallelujah!!!

TSN going to show some CFL content during the COVID shut down........ https://www.tsn.ca/cfl-encores-on-tsn-schedule-1.1463140