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  1. TrueBlue4ever

    2021 Season

    I have looked into various web sources (Forbes, statista.com, packers.com, Blue Bomber financial statement) and here are some numbers to chew on for those who want to compare the NFL and CFL’s financial situations: In the NFL, the only public team is Green Bay, so all other financial projections are speculation unless the team reports it. The Bombers likewise out out a financial statement. So the numbers I found for the Dallas Cowboys, the Packers and the Bombers are as follows - Expenses in 2019: $32.8 million (Bombers), $439 million (Packers), $425 million (Cowboys) 2019 revenues: $36.3 million (Bombers), $508 million (Packers), $960 million (Cowboys) Of note, the Bombers biggest single revenue increase was $2.2 million more in game day merchandise and concessions, the Packers was $70 million more in league TV revenue Salary cap: $5.4 million in CFL (16.5% of Bombers’ total expenses) $198.2 million in NFL (45.1% of Packers’ and 46.6% of Cowboys’ total expenses) 2019 revenue from ticket sales alone: $11.5 million (Bombers - 31.7% of total revenue), $77 million (Packers - 15.2% of total revenue, $98 million (Cowboys - 10.2% of total revenue) TV contract: $50 million league-wide in the CFL ( and a portion of that goes to the league itself and not each club, so the TV revenue is not $50 million split 9 ways and it does NOT cover the players salaries in entirety - the Bombers received $3.9 million in league payments in 2019, or 72.2% of the salary cap and 10.7% of their total revenue, it covers 11.8% of their operating costs), $255 million PER TEAM NFL (Packers and Cowboys 128.7% of the salary cap, Packers 50.2% of total revenue and covers 58.1% of their operating costs, Cowboys 26.6% of total revenue and 60% of their operating costs) Bombers also generated another 24% of their revenue from game day related money such as concessions sales and merchandise, so 56% of their revenue stream is gone without fans. The Packers estimated that of their $508 million profit, $211 million or 41.5% was internally generated from ticket sales and game day and merchandise sales, and local sponsorships, the rest was league money. The Cowboys projected that without fans it could cost them up to $500 million this past season. The Cowboys other big revenue gain comes from sponsorship dollars, which is why they are the most popular brand and most valuable franchise in the NFL. So the simple takeaway from this date is: no fans for the Bombers (arguably the healthiest franchise in the CFL - Sask and Edm are the only other 2 whose books are public and they both lost money in 2019 - the Riders basically because they had expenses for marketing a Grey Cup they never hosted, but were close to break even otherwise) means they lose about $19.7 million on game day revenue alone and go from a $3.4 million profit to a $16.3 million loss, likely more, the Cowboys lose $500 million from ALL sources yet still turn a profit of $35 million, and the Packers without fans wipe out any profit on ticket sales alone and likely more with no game day associated revenue, but again their ticket revenue is only 15% of their revenue stream vs 32% for the Bombers. So let’s stop pretending that we can compare the CFL and NFL equitably based on not having fans in the stands and TV revenues and assume that because other leagues can do it, we should “just find a way”. Unless fans want to agree that if the league plays with zero fans and we fans will cover any losses next year by paying NFL-style ticket prices for every game (and I think we all saw from the Packers-Raiders pre-season game in Winnipeg, not to mention the last few Grey Cups we’ve hosted, how little appetite there is to pay that much from the fans’s point of view), it seems clear that this is more a gate driven league than other sports and no fans means no football And the Government has no appetite to bail out a sports league because there is no political gain in it for them, and it is more public than a media company bailout supposedly to save thousands of jobs (even if said company *cough* BELL *cough* uses said buyout to pay their stockholders and fires their staff anyway), plus looks better in saving the national economy. Just my two cents
    7 points
  2. Blueandgold

    2021 Season

    It seems like most provinces are aiming to have all adults given at least one dose by June. If that’s the case, why can’t we have fans?
    3 points
  3. SpeedFlex27

    RIP Chris Schultz

    He kept guys like Matty & Milt grounded. The panel isn't as good as it was when he was there. I always hoped he'd come back to the panel. This is such sad news. My condolences to his family.
    3 points
  4. bluto

    RIP Chris Schultz

    Good guy. I'll always remember the Cup run in '91 and what a (literally) big part of the team he was. Charitable too, his work for Purolator Tackle Hunger has helped tens of thousands in need. RIP Schultzie.
    3 points
  5. SpeedFlex27

    The TV Thread

    Stop sign in an action scene. Academy Award good!!!
    2 points
  6. TrueBlue4ever

    Curling

    Great news for Kerri Einerson’s team. Women’s Worlds is back on and will be held in Calgary along with the Men’s. https://globalnews.ca/news/7680473/curling-team-einarson-womens-worlds/?utm_source=GlobalWinnipeg&utm_medium=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1tyBxCGga84hLdooi0ZqVPuESsu3GYPtiCwPFhQYqfqtd_Js1-bhQDm4g
    2 points
  7. JCon

    Covid-19

    Based on the current expected vaccine supply, all Manitobans can get their first vaccine shot by the end of June. Also possible, by the end of May. This does not include the new J&J vaccine, which they don't have a supply schedule yet.
    2 points
  8. Eternal optimist

    RIP Chris Schultz

    Here's the highlights of that "game" if one could call it that.
    1 point
  9. SpeedFlex27

    RIP Chris Schultz

    No, disagree. The panel became about Milt mostly & his suits. Or the outrageous things he would say while trying to emulate Deion sanders or Michael Irvin. Matt Dunigan would get fired up & start doing the same thing from a qb perspective like Terry Bradshaw. Then they brought in Burris who just a few short years ago trashed the entire panel during a halftime sideline interview as another talking head who really added nothing to the discussion. Yeah, sometime Schultz had pedestrian views but I believe it came from the position he played. To him, a big play wasn't just about running the ball, catching or throwing. It was about the meat & potatoes of a play. The blocking. The boring stuff that fans don't care about.
    1 point
  10. Found this on TSN website... this has to be nearly 20 years ago. The Good, The Bad and The Duthie - Featuring Chris Schultz - Video - TSN
    1 point
  11. SpeedFlex27

    2021 Season

    All well & good but find a way....
    1 point
  12. the watcher

    US Politics

    I'm one of those lucky people who work at something that is what I like doing. ( not the bookwork part ) I retired from working out a few years ago and started a business with my son. More of a hobby gone out of control lol.
    1 point
  13. FrostyWinnipeg

    The Winnipeg Thread

    Anyone seen evidence of new Costco north Main just inside perim? Also... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-new-tallest-building-300-main-1.5936363
    1 point
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  15. Noeller

    Covid-19

    Canada Day parties like this country hasn't seen since VE Day.......
    1 point
  16. Sard

    Covid-19

    Some really good news, if they are able to make it happen: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manitoba-covid-19-vaccine-timeline-1.5938069
    1 point
  17. Damn I grew up watching Dave, Matt, Chris, and Jock. It’s news like this that you really do hate to see. It was a faux pas, but my most memorable Schultz moment was I believe Michael Bishops first start for the Bombers in 2009. We won 13-12 after the Argos missed a game winning FG. Schultz went on and on about we masterfully “iced” the kicker, only we didn’t. The Argos got a procedure penalty that pushed the kick back.
    1 point
  18. JCon

    US Politics

    Work first, play later. Good plan. One that I will not follow.
    1 point
  19. the watcher

    US Politics

    Hey guys I REALLY need to get cracking on getting my bookwork done but just want to thank all of you for a great discussion. It's not always easy to find these days.
    1 point
  20. that crew of Schultz, Dunigan and Climie with Randorf on the TSN panel will always be THE one for me. Absolutely love those guys together. Heartbreaking that he's gone this soon. Far, far too young...
    1 point
  21. Schultz’s death is gutting news to me. Always liked his approach on the TSN panel, and he was one of the originals who helped create the TSN football brand and build the Friday Night Football panel and phenomenon. Not a stretch to say that the success of that experiment went a long way to establishing the TSN CFL partnership and grew the popularity and exposure of the league in a big way. Was sorry to see him depart the airwaves, and very saddened by this news today.
    1 point
  22. JCon

    Covid-19

    They're testing a vaccine (I forget which) on 11-15 year olds right now and hope to be able to administer the vaccine this summer. Next wave, under 11, starts soon too, I believe.
    1 point
  23. rebusrankin

    2021 CFL Free Agency

    Don't we all want a Milt/Arland Bruce combo at SB?
    1 point
  24. Nolby

    RIP Chris Schultz

    Passed away at the age of 61 from a heart attack. Loved his analysis and heart for the game, he'll be missed.
    0 points
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