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if u look at the cross bar video...U see Taylor was going to undercut that pass for the pick...at worse would have knocked it away...but whatever we can let them lament that play forever, that and their piddly 3 cups...8 less than us. Also agree, our recent regime's difficulty finding that legit WR threat is confounding...we had some in previous 4 yrs, but got neutered here with the Lapo "genius" which I never bought into. Lawler can be that guy...if used that way...slowly he is...Look at his highlights from College..guy can go get it. If Adams still isn't 100 percent I wanna see Woli moved soley inside...working the tough yard catches...and have Agudusi outside...stretching the defense and being the 50/50 threat where he will constantly be pulling the safety out of the middle and taking the corner out of the play....would open up a ton of room for others

I don’t know how anyone who was aware of the ineptitude of the 1970’s, the reign of Earl Lunsford, and the entire tenure of Jeff Reinbold, could look at Taman’s run from 1999-2008 and 2 Grey Cup appearances where we should have won and say that his time was rock bottom.

Ha, ha. He wasn't wrong. Biggest play of the season & Andrew Buckley the backup QB carried the ball on third down & lost yards. All they had to do was hand the ball off to Jerome Messam from the one & he'd be in. Dumb. Just like the Seattle Seahawks not giving the ball to Beast Mode Marshawn Lynch on the one & threw an interception on the goal line to lose the Super Bowl. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Coaches get too cute & outsmart themselves.

Christ, I lived through all that.....as well as the Joe Zaleski era. And man, some of those other coaches...... Darryl Rogers - arrogant fool who drove 2 teams in different leagues, right into the ground (Bombers, Detroit Lions) Jim Daley - wonderful guy, who as a "defensive specialist" coached some Bomber D's to historical records. As in all-time CFL bad. Mike Kelly - uber-arrogant guy who had some serious behavioural issues, while certainly not re-inventing the game of football. Tim Burke - obvious that right from the get go, he had no bloody clue. Throwing players under the bus, couldn't bail him out. Comparatively, a guy like Zaleski gets some pass from me...as those teams simply had NO TALENT, period.

Fair warning, this will be long, even for me, and painful to recollect. But offering my take of the lowest of the lows. I would imagine everyone’s version of rock bottom is subjective and defined by many factors, such as age and prior “rock bottom” experiences. I also believe that one’s first experience with despair may hit the hardest, and with age and subsequent failures the shock of the futility is no longer there and with it a grudging acceptance of “just another low period” as opposed to “this is the worst ever” becomes your new standard I cannot speak confidently about the 1970’s period (Speedflex is likely more well-versed on that tragic era) but I imagine coming out of the 1957-65 glory era, 4 straight seasons of 4-12, 3-13, 3-12-1 and 2-14 was rock bottom to them. Then Don Jonas was a ray of light after a decade of failure, but did not last too long (a parallel to the Khari Jones age). Then more down years while Dieter Brock grew into the job, and the disappointment of always running into the juggernaut that was the 1977-1982 Eskimos must have felt equally hopeless even though we were good then. And that 22 year gap hurt tons too. For me, Reinbold was the lowest point. We sacked a legend in Cal Murphy because the board tired of him ruling the roost, and saw a blowout in Edmonton (where they blantantly cheated and got away with it) as an excuse to kick him down the road and bring in the shiny new toy in Reinbold, who was going to inject life into the staid stale franchise that Murphy built. Well, for all that flash, Jeff was massively incompetent and the Board got played for suckers in hiring him. And they abandoned the classic royal blue uniforms as well and dropped the gold helmets and pants to boot as a full-on re-brand to add insult to injury. It was quickly evident Jeff had no clue what he was doing, but because of budget tightening and the fact we were still paying out Murphy’s salary, we could not afford to pay 2 ex-coaches so we were stuck with him. And going from what was deemed an unacceptable 9-9 season after 3 Cups, 5 appearances, and 14 straight playoff appearances with Murphy to 4-14 and 3-15 was a kick in the nuts. We typically lost by more than 2 TDs, including the worst home loss in club history (66-25 to Doug Flutie’s Argos where he was throwing multiple touchdowns to offensive linemen, just toying with us and embarrassing us). Reinbold had no clue how to salvage games, so he resorted to exorcisms in the dark dressing room to motivate the troops. Completely idiotic. Bob Cameron once said it was useless, but entertaining in a “can you believe this ****” kind of way - “losing was never so much fun as in the Reinbold era”. The only bright spot was Milt Stegall, and then he packed up and left in 1998 for the NFL, and all hope was lost. We were a train wreck, we knew it, and we knew there was no way out because the Board could not afford to fire Reinbold, who was given both the head coach and GM jobs and immediately showed he did not know how to do either. We started 0-11. We lost by two touchdowns or worse 11 times. An all-time worst 15 losses. We had one close game at home versus BC where after doing nothing all game we scored late and got the ball back, drove the length of the field down by 2 and got the the 5 yard line with a few seconds left. We all knew a gimme field goal would give us the lead, but we did not want to give the Lions any time to march back and steal the game, so we tried for the TD. Kerwin Bell calls an audible from the shotgun and the centre thought he called for the snap, and rifles the ball back to him when he was looking to the sidelines. Ball caroms off his ankle, he turns to flop on it and it scoots back between his legs and BC recovers and wins by 2. Devastating, and worse because we all KNEW they would find year another way to blow it, and they did not disappoint. Even bringing in Dave Ritchie in 1999 did not completely clean out the stench. We lost 65-15 in Hamilton that year, the worst road loss in team history to that point. So in the aftermath of all that, I chafe at those who belittle Taman, given what he had to recover from. Some did not like how he dismissed the draft - fair enough - but at least he explained his rationale and you could appreciate if not buy into his logic. He always said “why use a first round draft pick on an unknown who may turn out to be nothing, or who becomes good and then you lose him to free agency, when you can trade that pick and get a known commodity you know is good and can control for a few years”. That approach was hit and miss and left the cupboards bare later on, sure, but he saw that teams could rebuild quickly (not like the draft and develop model of other leagues) and two of his draft pick trades turned into Khari and Eliwonibi and then later Doug Brown, two moves that completely changed the trajectory of the team. Also brought in Blink, Bobby Gordon, Juran Bolden, Kevin Glenn, etc. so his track record was pretty solid. I prefer the overall picture to focusing on the bad end. We screwed ourselves out of 2 Grey Cups during his tenure thanks to arrogance and Blink’s partying in ‘01 and and freak broken arm (again with Blink fumbling the handoff) in ‘07. Mike Kelly was a goofball with a chip on his shoulder and the “I am smarter than everyone else, just ask me” syndrome, but the teams were not terrible, despite his weird “my jet sweep will revolutionize the game” formations. So like John Tortorella, if he wins you put up with the ego, but you have the pink slip ready at all times when he inevitably falters and burns all bridges. Irritating to no end, infuriating at times, a black mark on the franchise but not rock bottom to me. The Joe Mack era comes close, but the difference was how it unfolded. I am a LaPo defender largely because of how he got jobbed by Mack after getting to the Grey Cup. A rough 0-4 road start and Mack saw the chance to cut him loose and take the reins of “his team” and prove he was the smartest guy in the room. His arrogance made Mike Kelly look like a pre-schooler, he just had less opportunity to run his mouth In front of the media and pick fights with them. But in his case, his arrogance was rivalled by an incompetence that approached Reinbold (at least Kelly put competitive teams on the field). I have a friend who knew a high up coach in the Manitoba football heirarchy who said “I am one of 2 or maybe 3 people in the Province who when I call Mack he has to acknowledge my call, and he regularly refuses to even listen to anyone on his team’s state. I have never met the mix of arrogance and ignorance like he displays.” The 52-0 surrender on Labour Day is the single biggest indictment of his approach I have ever seen by a group of players. They basically boycotted him to his face on national television as a protest to the LaPo firing. His response was to crack jokes at the following press conference. Kyle Walters had no say in the draft planning when it mattered, saying 5 guys would have consensus on a player and then one holdout would ultimately get to make the pick, and would go another way (Jade Etienne, Tyson Pencer, Johnny Aprille who we’ll concert to a different position immediately). But since he was fired midway through the 2013 season, it gave me more hope for a faster recovery since we had management pieces in place who were good but handcuffed by the little Napoleon, even if the shine was completely taken off the new stadium opening with a 1-8 home record that year. Burke was in over his head for sure and I felt like Mack had him as the scapegoat, so his dumb moves like kneeling in a tied game at the end of regulation to stop the bleeding and get to overtime rather than push for a winning drive are frustrating but not as earth shattering as some see it, at least to me. I felt sorry for the guy, my anger was saved for Mack. Only knowing that we could recover faster with him gone and the memory of having lived through Reinbold and realizing that brighter days would come again kept this from being my rock bottom. It’s all about perspective. That’s why I equally get my back up about the Nichols/LaPo debates. They have their flaws for sure, but they are nowhere near as incompetent to me as some here would make them out to be. And Nichols was a quality human who pulled the team off the 2013 scrap heap and made them a contender again, and also donated a lot of his salary to the Children’s Hospital in Winnipeg, so one can say anything against his character. And LaPo has the team offensive numbers of 20 years and 3 franchises to back up his credentials. He adapts to whatever players he had at his disposal, and shifts his game plan around it. Does he get in his own head too much at times, sure, can it be dull and not explosive, yep, but he has 4 Grey Cup appearances and 2 rings, so I think he gets a raw deal around here for someone who broke the ultimate 29 year curse. Those who like to rip certain players need only read this very long depressing history to be reminded of how much worse things could be, and then take a step back and re-gain some clarity and perspective on what hopeless truly looks like. And then going into Labour Day with return game troubles and a case of the dropsies doesn’t look so bad after all.

Wolitarsky should have been moved inside ages ago. The guy screams Jason Clermont and it's criminal that he's lining up out wide. Put him in the slot and let him use his body / size to make plays.

And you post on a football forum?

Disrupting the day to day at the busiest hospital in the city, now these imbeciles are becoming dangerous, I've said this before but if one of these dummies has the balls to get into my face they are going to missing a few more chiclets, ignorance and stupidity are 2 things I don't deal with very well.

At trueblue. Those are the same low points I have but with a slight adjustment. For me the dark ages of the reinbold era was the baddest. Thing is though i actually really liked Jeff. He was a guy you wanted to win and win with. Knowledgeable hard working passionate. He is a great dude. I'm very happy he's doing well in Hamilton. That era seemed hopeless. Like we were a d4 team playing top tier d1. And it nearly killed the franchise. Mike Kelly wasn't as bad an era team but he was the worst guy to be a bomber hc. I truly hated him. I watched the games and that was it. Mack offered at first a slight hope for being better. In the end he was just a different flavor of egomaniac. He'd rather be right than win. American expansion also generated a lot of low points for me. From Dunnigan leaving to Baltimore winning. We had some good teams in the us era but man I hated it. Atleast in the Ritchie era it felt like we had the right people running the team.

I'd love to see Roosevelt go in like Dressler and torch his former team. I hope they're practicing covering the flats and holes up the middle.

Tim Burke having Goltz kneel heading into halftime when down by I think 2 scores was one of the saddest moments as a Bomber fan. That entire 2013 season was a dumpster fire inside another dumpster fire

Assclowns. Every last one of them. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/vaccine-protest-hsc-1.6161892 Absolutely disgusting.

Westwood with a gem on twitter: Ahh the beautiful rivalry is almost upon us. Manitoba/Saskatchewan Saskatchewan/Manitoba So similar in so many ways. The biggest difference between us right now is that our Manitoba vet shops still have #ivermectin on the shelves. #LabourDayClassic #ForTheW #yeehaw

If I'm going down I'm taking Cody Fajardo with me

All the fretting about the D, this is what a Ritchie Hall D does. As it was, as it is and as it ever shall be.

Bill 64 is dead. https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/local/winnipeg/2021/9/1/1_5569178.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pejJk_fAlk Anyone else see this? It's hilarious I created an account just to share it here.

I am with Harris "There's nothing better than shutting up 30,000 fans."

Reindolt was a bad coach, but at least he was a decent guy. I sat with him at a Grey Cup party and talked for an hour about football. He was highly entertaining. The Kelly year was the worst for me. I wouldn't have sat down and talked with him if he was the only person who had a chair available at his table and I have really bad knees.

https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/video/~2271452 He looks good in blue. Will be my wildest dream to really hope we make a repeat this year and Naaman get his ring and eventually retires as a Bomber. I believe he never won a Grey Cup with the Riders.

Through all the years of being a Bomber fan, the only time I ever felt embarrassed by our team was Mike Kelly era and it had nothing to do with the team on the field. From a football perspective rock bottom was probably in the Reinbold era, and from a franchise perspective it was Mike Kelly's one short year that turned us into a circus and laughing stock of the CFL. Taman was a middling GM who did OK but left a mess, I view him neither positively or negatively. High points to me were the Cal Murphy and Dave Ritchie era.

Social media has just given the idiots a forum to be idiots.

Truly one of the dumbest human beings alive....

Can I get you drunk and take you to demonstrations?

Didn't Tim Burke also have Elliott or someone else kneel in the 4th quarter with a minute remaining because he didn't have faith that we could move down the field and take one last crack at a score which then lead to an OT loss?

Easily the worst season I can remember save the Banjo Bowl (that was such a fun time at IGF). 2009 is a distant second but that team seemed way more competitive despite the drama.

No...no it wasn't. That was rock bottom. I can put up with losing as a fan, but Mike Kelly was embarrassing to the brand.

This was a bit before my time. It couldn't have been worse than the Mike Kelly saga could it? That was by far the worse thing I've seen in my time as a fan.

Bo Levi has a lot of miles on that body as he's been beaten up pretty good. Zero threat to run even if healthy. He's been a starter for something like 8 seasons & he had shoulder surgery in 2019. People are noticing his throwing mechanics seem off like Nichols. He doesn't have the horses around him that he used to have although Dave Dickenson is a very good qb coach & OC. I think his best days are behind him. He may have some gas in the tank but the engine is wearing out.

Sane part of the population: "we know...we can't wait!".

Residents of Pinawa will be very very happy about this...

Our asset management at receiver is mind boggling

The Texas situation is far more alarming and even dangerous than would first appear. The GOP-loaded Supreme Court has refused to hear an appeal of the law, and defacto has approved the beginning of the end of Roe vs Wade. No doubt other states will seize on this precedent to enact similar or even worse legislation.

Can't believe the Bombers traded Blink. Fire Taman now! So according to Facebook this was my reaction in 2008.

FIFY

https://3downnation.com/2021/09/01/cfl-issues-directive-banning-teams-from-signing-former-elks-ol-jacob-ruby/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=cfl-issues-directive-banning-teams-from-signing-former-elks-ol-jacob-ruby All cfl teams offically banned from signing ruby for the remainder of the season. Its a good start.

Andrew Harris.... Also, **** @Mikeand the horse he rode in on.......

My friend has expressed a similar belief. I don't think some as arrogant and conceited as Pallister would allow himself to be the sacrificial lamb, but its possible. I think its more likely that they introduced tons of legislation, purposely blocked the public and other parties from seeing it until the last possible minute, knowing they would only be able to hold 5 bills back. The more outrageous the legislation the better as that meant a lot of other garbage would pass while outrage would only be around the 5 bills.

I am cynical enough to believe that the Tories introduced what was certain to be unpopular legislation with the knowledge that Pallister was as popular as cooties and would have to leave. That way, the pending premier/party leader could disavow Bill 64 and claim to be listening to the will of the people. Such is politics.

I wish I could take credit but I'm just a lurker and saw this on r/CFL but not here and thought it was too good to not share

No way, Khari was a lot harder to take. After the **** show of the 07 grey cup a lot of the shine wore off roberts for me.

The Stamps have removed Bo Levi Mitchell from the 6 game injured list & he is now eligible to start practicing. Basically, he's played like **** the entire season. Jake Maier who has sparked the team with his surprisingly fine play will sit when Bo is good & ready. "Thanks kid. You did okay but this is MY team. Not yours. Just remember that".

100%. on 3dn it sounded like they had been strung along by ruby since TC about being vaxx'd and getting proof. Ruby is a turd, but they are kind of trying to scapegoat him. A lot of fault to be had in edmonton.

No team is allowed to sign him this year. The anti vaxxers think it's unfair. The Eskimos used to be the best organization in the CFL. Now under Brock Sunderland, they've become a joke to their fanbase & around the CFL.

Good. This sends a message for all players and teams. The CFL can’t afford another lost season IMO.

Strev would have been well worth the 150-200k, that being said, congratulations Strev for making the AZ 53 man again.