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Nice gesture by the enemy: Hamilton Tiger-Cats @Ticats Last night we honoured the great @BobIrvingCJOB for his incredible contributions to the CFL. He might not wear the jersey , but he’ll be back as our guest of honour at the 2023 Grey Cup in Hamilton, to enjoy it as a true CFL fan. Congratulations & enjoy retirement, Bob!

Randle was the first player who started the locker room reboot and culture change, followed by Neuf later that year. Bryant was the next biggest piece in 2015 who solidified it and brought it that much further along as more pieces were added....if you look back to the dark times, and the embarrassment we were, those are the 3 founding fathers...Its too bad Randle wasn't able to reap the rewards for his 5 years here...creating the work ethic and grooming and anointing BA as a leader...he noticed BA's character early on and took him under his wing to take over when he was gone...Well deserved ring(s) by Bryant and Neuf...loyal guys to the core who brought us from dumpster, to the penthouse...

A bit of bomber news as Liam dobson our 3rd over all pick this year was an honorable mention all sunbelt player. He started all 12 games starting at 3 different positions on the ol. Rt rg and LG. He took snaps at center as well.

you know what has a higher risk of myocarditis than vaccines? Covid. I mean I get being hesitant because of things like that... but why is one risk OK but the other not?

Pat Steinberg was the only one of the 6 writers to pick the Bombers in the 2019 Grey Cup. https://www.cfl.ca/2019/11/23/prediction-time-cfl-ca-writers-make-107th-grey-cup-picks/

I don't know if I could love this any more than I do.......

Several angles showed ball touching ground...2 of which also showed ball rolling over slightly as well...proof it wasn't secured... Baileys was more a catch Glenn is 10x the QB Fajardo is

Glenn was far better than Fajardo IMO.

What experiment ? This technology is over 10 years old. The testing done on these vaccines was extremely thorough. More so than many other vaccines. The reason it was so quick was because drug companies with the aid of governments threw ALL their research, money , effort and energy at it. And the proof is right here, 5.6 billion jabs last time I checked and very , very few side effects. And that is as massive a test as could exist. It's damn near miraculous. What is experimental is goofy internet cures like hydroxy chloroquine and Ivermectine to fight something they weren't designed for . As far as finding A doctor who doesn't support vaccines ,of course you can. There is something like 10 million Doctors in the world. There is a Doctor who told a Senate committee in the US that vaccines were making people magnetic. Every barrel of apples has a few that are going off. Edit : One more add. Masking and vaccines aren't just about me.They also are about me not spreading Covid to others. If we all get vaccinated and take what precautions we can it gives vulnerable people a better chance to avoid it. It also allows our society to return to something more akin to normal.

Good sign...

Anti-vaxxers are attacking both businesses and government. The public health orders are being labelled as "authoritarian, tyrannical, fascist" by these uneducated, overly entitled narcissists who only care about themselves. The "both sides" argument is such flimsy, ridiculous, and fallacious argument (look up the the paradox of tolerance - https://academy4sc.org/video/paradox-of-tolerance-to-tolerate-or-not-to-tolerate/). There aren't two sides to this pandemic, anyway. There are those who understand science and act on it, and there are those who are simply ignorant and wrong. The latter should not be tolerated. Full stop. People who have done their due diligence and their part for the good of all are tired of those who have exacerbated this crisis with their denial, deflection, and sometimes antisocial behaviour, perpetuating the hardship for everyone. They can't even see past their own noses. So, how do you reason with people like that? And attempting to understand a person who chooses not to get vaccinated with the "medical freedom" or "my body, my choice" narrative is a futile endeavour, as there is no rational, objective, or scientific justification for either. They're often the same ones who claim, albeit erroneously, that rights and freedoms are being taken away or trampled on, but there's no evidence for that, either. "The sky is green." "The Earth is the centre of the solar system." "Vaccines cause autism." "The pandemic is a hoax." "Bill Gates murders children." "Justin Trudeau is a communist." "5G causes health problems." "The Holocaust didn't happen." "The moon landings were fake." "The Earth is flat." Facts do not support any of those arguments. Not one. And those who choose to agree with such nonsensical claims without a shred of real, hard, verifiable evidence cause irreparable harm in doing so, especially when they have influence in society and can easily spread their ignorant messages on the internet and social media to others without accountability. The world would be a much better place if people actually chose to be informed and educated, and put in the effort of understanding the world around them. Rather than fall prey to misinformation on Facebook or YouTube. There is no respectful dialogue to be had with conspiracy theorists or the willfully misinformed. "It pays to keep an open mind, but not so open your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan

I felt that too! right after the missed FG, I was like, okay, we got 'em now, and we scored right away. but then there was that fluky bad-traction TD by spitty mceyegouge ... I'm thinking holy cow we are in for a nutty 2019-style Western Final finish that's gonna put me in the heart ward. But no, the fourth quarter started and, like we do, we ground em up like calzone sauce. 11:15 time of possession in the fourth! That's a freaking ludicrous level of ball control. No team in my 35+ years of following this goofy league has been able to ground and pound like the bombers. hilarious that the big turnaround rider play happened at exactly 0:00 of the third, the last possible moment before the iron gate was scheduled to slam shut.

Kevin Glenn fanboy here. The comparison to Fajardo has made my physically ill, and I demand a retraction!

I wonder if the Ticats are as far over the salary cap as the Riders were?

We have had two years of continuous messages about the severity of the pandemic and the necessity of ALL of us getting vaccinated to protect not only ourselves and our loved ones, but also to protect members of our communities who cannot be vaccinated for legitimate reasons. Apart from a few utterly bizarre people, there is no debate. Those who have chosen to ignore hard science and history are so rigid in their ideation, that literally nothing will change them.

how to tell every poster on MBB is a 40 something male

According to LinkedIn, Joe Mack is still VP/GM of the Bombers. https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-mack-1416965/

Puck moving defenseman injured, puck moving defenseman called up.

I am surprised he found time to write this given I suspect he's still lamenting his Riders losing on Sunday.

If your goal is to reach someone using logic on social media, you're already doomed for failure. It's not your job to convince total strangers online (who may very well be children/bots/foreign agents etc. These conversations are only appropriate in person or maybe over the phone. Anything else is a waste of time.

Except nobody said any of that. Read it again. Criticism of the government is protected by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. However, that doesn't mean you can just mislabel public health orders as being "authoritarian, tyrannical, or fascist" or claim that any of those rights and freedoms have been stripped away without proof. Those sort of dangerously false claims by uneducated, misinformed individuals who can't see beyond themselves or their inflated entitlement are what antagonize the situation and make things worse for everyone. And it is wrong, as there is no evidence to substantiate any of it. Running to the defense of delusional and sometimes hostile "freedom fighters" who protest in front of hospitals and harass others, berate store employees and other customers, and spread bullshit online, or claiming there are statistics and expert opinions to support viewpoints that have exacerbated this public health crisis is about as bad a look as clinging to that feeble "both sides" argument. "Of course won't all agree" comes across a lame copout and that type of indifference is not helpful. Not only do you ignore the majority of what you quoted, you completely misconstrue what was actually said and then argue it nonsensically. That's not conducive to having an open mind or in the spirit of healthy, rational discussion, despite your claiming that's what you're doing in this thread. You're basically trolling. But based on your activity history of seemingly contrarian fallacy posting, that's unsurprising.

Randall and Maurice Leggett really helped turn our d around.

I will never tire of reading stuff like this. https://www.bluebombers.com/2021/12/08/long-read-magic-coach-oshea/

Just rewatched the 2019 GC again. And I know it has already been said. But if they rule Bailey a no catch and he had 2 hands on it before hitting the ground then this should not have been a catch. Seems fishy.

If O’Shea wants to be a leader of men, gain their trust to play for him, and to be accountable to him and their teammates as players, then he must be careful and choose his words wisely, so as to be accountable to them as well, as a coach, as a man. Fans don’t need to have that same accountability, so they can feel free to express their opinions, whatever they may be, with less filter or measured words.

You never know what the person is going through on an individual level. Because we are federally regulated, my workplace was required to be fully vaccinated by November 15th and we had about 16 or 17 guys above me in the seniority roster who are not working because of that mandate. Among them are a few who think that the vaccine is an excuse to implant microchips in them. I have no time for them. But I do have all the time in the world for the guy who was one of the more respected guys in our workforce who opted out of getting the vaccine because his daughter had a very adverse reaction to it that has resulted in some fairly significant heart problems. He had nothing against the vaccination for everyone else, it just wasn’t worth the risk for him. While I may not agree with either choice, I certainly respect one reason far more than the other. TLDR: good on O’Shea for taking the time to talk with these guys and find out the reasons for their choices.

I like the part when Murphy gets punched in the nose after saying some real cool stuff

Good for us! Loving the endless Canadian talent in the pipeline. Walters is definitely a wizard when it comes to scouting.

Ugh. I’d take 100 vax shots before taking one more damn swab up the nose.

He did of course have to reference his beloved riders when talking about Hamilton's homefield advantage, comparing it to the 2013 Grey Cup.

Nye picking Hamilton to win surprise surprise.

I look forward to the day the truth seekers and freedom fighters say "I think that's enough calling people nazis on twitter for today, maybe now I'll go sit down with a doctor or nurse and get another opinion" but I suspect the sun will actually set in the East first

because this year was kind of a lame grey cup where it is toned down due to covid....

I know when Coach O'Shea was hired some of us were a little skeptical... myself included... we weren't really sure what to expect... And now sometimes I can't help but think... we are so lucky to have this guy as our head coach... I hope he stays here for the next decade and beyond and never wears other colours ever again... Mike O'Shea is a national treasure (now I'm starting to sound like a Riders beat writer)

I forgot about him. You're right, I now remember being shocked at the time that the Bombers landed a big name FA. It was such a rare happening back then. Stanley Bryant was also a surprise. That did seem to be the start of our slow but steady shift towards becoming a respectable franchise again.

How do you have respectful dialogue when people reject facts in favour of feelings?

EDIT No one needs to hear my tirade.

I don't know where it fits in the timeline with the Neufeld trade and the Stanley Bryant signing, but signing Chris Randle was also pretty good, even though he isn't here anymore. Fortunately we have moved on to a place where we rely on recruiting stud DBs.

Glenn was a legitimate CFL starting QB and MOP candidate. Faj is a glorified Nealon Greene.

I don't care what the stats say. Mike Reilly is probably the best QB in this league since Frito retired (BLM up there too) and Faj is a glorified Nealon Greene wannabe who can't throw accurately past 10yds. Those two aren't worthy of any kind of comparison....

Any inconsistency was the result of a rapidly evolving scenario but at no point did they say that the vaccination was unnecessary.

https://3downnation.com/2021/12/08/theres-some-very-passionate-conversations-bombers-mike-oshea-deals-with-player-vaccinations-individually/ “You’re dealing with humans and there’s some very passionate conversations in the office. I’m not talking about hammering players that you have to do this, you’re listening to the players, you get a sense of where they’re coming from,” O’Shea said. “When a player is not able to play for whatever reason, what comes to my mind is the person, what they’re feeling and the turmoil that they’re going through,” O’Shea said. “He wasn’t able to travel.” O'Shea takes a much more sympathetic tone than I do, that's for sure.

Some are comparing him to Reilly over there, so I don't know....plus he's smarter than Zach....Yep.

Had to be done. No coming back from that one, not at that level of an organization

hooooooeeeeeeeeeeee...........

There's an on going message these days that everyone's opinion is valid. And that's just not true.