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Honestly that is fantastic news. If he has that kind of mentality then buh-bye. Always thought he would never develop.

Yeah

Cobb is practicing in Demski's spot and Corcoran is filling in for Cobb at field WR. Clercius is at SB on the second team. We'll see how that shakes out when camp is over.

I haven't been to camp but here's my best representation of what I can gather of the lineup from reports and other sources. Of course we will get the official pre-season game 1 depth chart tomorrow morning.

I'd say that Wilson was behind Perkins for 3rd string as well

Also not sad to see him leave and thought there was probably a good chance he would not be on the final roster after camp anyway.

yeah we woefully misused him the last few yrs....I think Condell will get most of him...Dude is a beast and can be very effective for us.

100% but you gotta get the takes out while they're hot

Well the QB fight for a spot on this team ended with a thud. Wasn't really much of a fight cause two spots were already spoken for.

To me it looks like the, "we want to try him at a different position to try and develop more versatility" thing we do every TC with a couple guys. It makes sense to me, Clercius has great athleticism, we have a bunch of guys like Corcoran who can fill the roll of the blocking and playing field, but can't do much else. From the slot, Clercius can also pinch the edge with a block and release after on some plays. Plus he plays even bigger than his listed size, so if we want to make TE a thing long term, he would be a prime candidate to pass catch out of a TE alignment.

It’s possible there’s some family/personal issue that will make us look like jerks for calling him a quitter, but you have to think the team would have stated that in the press release if that’s the case.

I find it extremely strange that two QBs are walking away. Extremely unusual. Even if Wilson could see the writing on the wall, he should at least keep grinding in case someone gets hurt or something else happens. Don't cut yourself, make them cut you. He still could have won the #3 job and had a nice football salary for another year. Very, very weird.

Perkins is a veteran pro, just not a veteran CFL pro. Multiple years in NFL, UFL MVP, etc.

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How is Perkins a veteran back up? He's no more a veteran than Ermergerdsma. This game tomorrow will determine a lot. If the two rookies look good, they won't airlift a veteran like MBT or whatever... They'll find a neg lister to bring in. If the rookies look like ass, however, then they might panic and being in someone with CFL experience (a "veteran", if you will ..)

Elgersma has been getting second team reps the entire camp. Perkins can be the SY guy and veteran ban-aid if needed. Thorne could have been our PR guy - but I guess didn't want to. But Wilson was getting cut if he didn't force himself into the back-up role and he didn't. So he beat Walters to the punch.

Writing on the wall is what's happening. Thorne was very clearly likely to be cut and Wilson knew he was likely 4th string with not much chance of moving up.

Good thing we have that Bison QB in camp, at least there's an arm around for throwing drills, unless Danny Mac wants to step up...

Decent arm. Decent wheels. 10 cent brain. Way too many bone head throws when he got his occasional playing time. See ya.

Gonna need at least one more arm now... But ya I'm not super sad about this development.

Terry Wilson dtd with hurt feelings after the depth chart was released? Hodge says he left the team.

I agree we've gone a little too far in using glue guy to keep some ppl. Just responding that you can't be entirely void of them either

You absolutely do. But you need those glue guys to contribute, and you can't have too many guys whose contribution is unquantifiable. The rosters just don't have the flexibility for that up here. Id argue that some of our biggest glue guys in the GC wins, were guys who played at a high level as well. Kongbo, Hansen, prime Jake, biggie was a huge glue guy, etc. Idr seeing a depth chart from us in the pre season with soo few imp wrs. I think the club is extremely high on him.

I'd argue glue guys are different than the undefined intangibles guys. Hallett in his prime = glue guy. Undefined intangibles with no obvious skill or team benefit guy = Corcoran, Damian Jackson.

You have to have those glue guys. They make a difference. It can be argued we may have too many but if you have none you are the Craig Dickenson Riders...lots of talent half arsing it.

This whole we love guys due to undefined intangibles BS needs to stop.

There is not a doubt in my mind that we're going to be running a NI DT (Lawson) and they want to have a NI back up. That WOULD have been Shmeck, and with him down, Korny is taking the spot. I have absolutely no doubts this is how we start the season because it's ALWAYS how they've built their roster. I'm not saying Right or Wrong... Just saying they've always done this. Some combination of Jake, Lawson, Shmeck and Korny ... Always been a thing and likely always will be. Ceresna just replaced the turnstile of US DTs like Sayles, etc that have taken that spot over the years. I, too, would like to see more reps for last year's LB draft picks. It's time to see if they can be starters.

yEAH....I hoping we seeing an offensive strategy shift. With some of the bodies we have that are athletic we could really exploit a lot of defenses who aren't accustomed to it The athletic TE too who automatically will widen out the defensive front...allow likley more inside gap control, and with a back like BO that be a huge plus for us And a big athletic TE who can basically just do a nice chop block/edge seal and then release into the flats or an out and up taking away a defender from the box would be another plus....especially as a true threat to catch the ball and do something with it

Same here. I think the potential for running modern cluster/flex-spread/bunch style TE offences between 11 and 22 formation is tremendous. Especially if you get some big athletic Tes involved. The CFL lacks diversity in system and game plans to the point a mediocre job of running a modern style TE would take multiple years for the majority of teams to counter it. A lot of those athletic tweeners want to stay at TE now, and not move over to DE. (Like wj did.) And the NFL only keeps a couple TEs around, while so many college teams are running outliers there. The available talent pool has more quality at TE then we have at WR or DL. The motion up here also would make athletic big TEs deadly. Line up tight, flex to a spread but the TE gets to use the waggle as well. You could drag them in back field motion and have massive disruption in the tackle box defenders. You could Iso them and give CBs nightmares. If they play off and you screen now they have to solo tackle a giant, if they play tight 1 cut timing route and you not only have to close but you have to out reach said giant. They don't even need to be $h!t kicking blockers, if they can beat up on smaller wils, sams and other DBs that alone goes a long long way.

I've been asking for this TE alignment for a while now being the armchair QB that I am. Would warm my heart. Throw in to this alignment having a true full back in I formation making room for BO and I've entered into football heaven.

I HOPE, that this is a case of we need to know what we have in Korny and see if a roster move to fill the back up is needed now. (It is) And that we want to run Corcoran, Cobb and fredericksen against each other for the last wr spot. It would make sense since we are doing the same with Texada and Burrell. I hope Clercius gets lots of reps at Slot. I will be sick if we cut him for the also-rans who can't run.

Yeah there is a marked difference for sure...and several comments..and some somewhat cryptic by several different players last yr speaks volumes to how much a clusterfuck last yr was...especially when a lot of it was said too just after breaking camp. The baffling part is Osh kept OC guy around in a reduced capacity..serves zero purpose and really nothing he can really teach BO or any back really to up their ganes The fact we see MCI being integrated in as rb..full back and out in a pass catching role...Clercius being used differently and with more versatility tells you Condell see's potential and use in certain players others ignored..or just couldnt see. Be interesting how we deploy guys and what are offence looks like. I'm thinking this may be the best thing to happen to ZC since..well he first arrived here.

I haven't either, but I wasn't looking for him either. But something I did notice is that everyone is talking about the great improvement with Condell in how strong a communicator he is. Also, his great attitude. In the past years, I saw considerable frustration and angst between Zach and both Hogan and Buck. At first, I thought it was a looking too hard at it thing. But so many others in the organization and media have echoed the same things about Condell. I don't think Zach was taking shots, nor was anyone else. But I think the interpersonal issues with Hogan are not understated. Having a normal TC, and not throwing out the playbook come the regular season is going to be a massive boon to our offence.

The UFL has all the stupid wacky rules but is still borderline unwatchable because of the QB play. Like it's fully in the category of "I have nothing else to do so I'll stop on this" television when it's live. I watch some condensed recaps to quickly see the different QB's really and think of who might be able to play up here. Sad our league is going down that path instead of focusing on how to better develop players, especially QB's, in our league.

However MLS, and NHL have attendance. Crissakes one of these UFL teams tried giving tickets away with the purchase of a whopper or something like that and couldn't get 5k in attendance.

Got out to a few days of camp - was mostly rookie watching - but the list looks pretty locked in. Only noticeable tweak might be Stuart who seemed to be taking reps exclusively at halfback.

Elgersma looked legit. Can make all the throws and easily. Wilson? Not so much. Probably saw the new kid come in and throw 40 yard darts downfield and said yeah I’m out of here. Oh well. lol at MBT or any other veteran cfl backup. Why would they do that. Why does the QB need cfl experience cuz the QBs out there are not potential starters. Why bring in guys you know who will never start. If Zach gets banged up it’s TE or BP time. Crazy thought. Maybe just maybe TE and or BP can be starters in the league. Worst case they are crappy cfl backups who just are backups their whole career or maybe they can be franchise QBs. Cuz CFL desperately needs new blood at the QB position, recycling never was and never will be’s is just crazy talk.

Maybe or it can be a case of Wilson being with the team for a few years feeling like he’s earned his keep and should be the back up, but wasn’t re assured ( nor should he be) and decided to quit. I’m not overly concerned. Thorpe by all accounts has interests else where. I’m going to believe it’s a case they believe in the guys currently on the roster at the quarterback position are going to be in a position to make the team better. I would feel the same way. Wilson is a good short yardage guy but if he’s never going to be a starter, and he’s not a specialist like Stevens really why would we continue to put time and reps.

All I know is tomorrow is going to be VERY interesting. In some ways, Condell's job just got way easier, but if both TE and BP look like ****, it just got way harder. Pray for the former...

Yeah, sorry. Thorne & Wilson.

Hot Take: They saw how good Elgersma looked and decided they had no future and left.

He’s more of a veteran in that he’s played professional football before. Wilson shouldn’t have been kept around unless he had made major progress, so no big loss. Have to imagine they will bring someone else in, need at least 1 QB on the PR

I'm not too sad to see Wilson leave, it's clear Elgersma will be the next QB hope (whether it works is TBD). It is definitely concerning that we have no other CFL experienced QB on the roster behind Zach. Wonder if we try to change that.

I was looking forward to watching the QB battle. Certainly has the appearance of hurt feelings...but who knows what happened.

Its also important to note that it is a world of difference between getting 650k viewers on average for a league total of 43 games (UFL,) 660 games (Wnba) and 2,688(NHL). Also, in its peak, the Arena league was drawing between 700k and 1.3m tv eyes. Its also a whole other comparison when the UFL has a very low (for football) paid attendance, owns none of its infrastructure (stadiums, cameras etc) and the merch/other revenue streams are worse than the paid attendance. The new arena league, AF1 is touting massive increases this year in its viewership as well. The UFL is only a little more secure then the AF1. The UFL only exists as long as its owners tolerance for losing money survives.

Elgersma QB2 👀

You are clearly jealous of me and Charity.

his get off move and speed was exceptional. We could sure use a bit of that now

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