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We could certainly use a big down field threat. But we also have such a glaring need that we can’t really be picky out side of quality. Whites fit with in the type of passing game we will run would be great as well. A yac guy who can catch and run turning high percentage passes into first downs. It would also allow demski to move away from over the middle and hand off stuff.

absolutely. it is. but you bring in 15-20 guys like this each camp and the ones who don’t cut it are first gone and gone in rookie camp. Football is so intensely dependant on raw athleticism and talent, if you can add or develop one strong intangible like football iq, motor, etc you have a quick riser. I mean this is why college teams are always all over track/basketball practices. very true. and the reality of falling out of the nfl window is a big learning opportunity. those guys always believe that their talent/athleticism will carry to a shot and they will win a spot. even though the reality is very different. Realizing that and facing the end of a career they thought would carry them can bring out a different animal.

Hellebuyck is the least of our concerns. Our defending is porous and we can’t score with any level of consistency. We also had some crap bounces last night, but the Wings were just flat out better.

Methinks you missed the point and took that comment way more negatively than intended

"Coach Jones, Coach Jones..... It's Cleveland calling.... Coach???? Why is he running away???"

Being a qb coach really helped the transition. He loves helping kids get to the next level at high school. A lot of his guys have got scholarships. The hamstring injury was serious. He didn't have surgery because the team doctor at SFU misdiagnosed the injury. If he had surgery, he might have recovered to play again at 100%. Maybe he would have redshirted. It happened in January 2015 going into his senior year so he'd have had 9 months to recover. He'd have missed spring camp only. It was a hard thing for him to go through. Not being able to run at full speed.

What an odd thing to say on a discussion forum designed specifically for the expression of thoughts and feelings

Yep, even more so for those 4* plus kids. those guys have grown up hearing they are going to be nfl stars since they are 12-14. If that doesn’t wake them up and get them playing like their career depends on it nothing will. Some super talented kids fall into a trap of doing all the small things coaches ask, at the expense of doing the things that will get them to the next level. Very nearly 100% of playing careers and in heart ache. No matter the level. And a huge portion of those have injuries driving them.

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Booo that would have been the guy I'd want to throw money at.

he couldn’t put up worse numbers than last year. just doing better won’t remotely mean he earns that money. If he produces at a rate equal to the last two years in one this year, he will be a solid value. idk I can’t see teams paying wj on hopes he regains his level of play from 3 years ago. he’d look real good in blue n gold

Condell would be familiar with White, that's for sure.

@wbbfan is correct. We currently have Wilson and Demski and not much else at receiver.

Paging Dr. Kevin Cheveldayoff we have a situation in the OR room stat.

Other than the fact that high glove = guaranteed goal. He hasn't been the same this season. I wouldn't be surprised if he was on the bench for the Olympics.

wonder what it’d take. 250k last year. 4 1k seasons in a row. Been very steady, excellent yac guy, would be great in a sweep package

I'll take White.

We need 2 starting wrs. I would’ve loved if one of them was Hardy. Even at that 200k range. Hardy isn’t a long term answer, but right now we are desperate for 2 strong short term answers

At a guy turning 35 this year ? Good player but wouldn’t be my first target. Seems like he signed at a reasonable deal to stay in Ottawa.

We've got like no receivers signed.... we should have a boatload of money to sign guys at that position

It's tough when a player reaches the end of the line but wants to keep playing especially college age kids. Usually a coach tells them it's over or injuries catch up.. Which is what happened to my son. An off season hammy tear was the end for him. He went from running a 4.6 forty as a junior & taking off with the ball to being a pylon as a qb runninga 5.4 forty in his senior year at SFU. When he went to the combines after his final season in 2015, he couldn't run or cut. He knew it was over... He had to face that. It wasn't easy. His hammy still gives him trouble. Surgery at some point is down the line.

I hope we do. We have massive needs at DL and WR. We cant fill them like we tried to last year either.

it’s pretty common in the cfl now to bring guys like this into camp. underachieving 4star or higher guys. If they adjust in camp to the canadian game it’s a very good chance you have a high end contributor. if they don’t they are easy cuts. The raw talent and athleticism helps raise the bar in drills for camp as well

Bogle is an interesting one. Highly recruited, unanimous 4-star recruit out of HS. Played a couple of years at Florida, then moved to Michigan State. Never became a regular starter or lived up to his potential out of HS. Very good athleticism and build, stronger than his weight would suggest, he's extremely lean, twitchy, good get off, has an excellent spin move, and a good motor. Boyd is similar. Polished, good frame that could hold more weight, excellent top-end speed, 3-star kid with polish who struggled to find a spot till his last year. Battle is pretty much the opposite. Instantly stepped in and started at the corner for NC state. tremendous size, mediocre measurables, but his speed plays better on the field than it tests. Quick twitchy, explosive type. Physical, very aggressive press corner type. Struggled more in zone, but his aggression is also going to be tough in man cover. Could be penalty-prone in any pro league. I think his wheels play much better in the CFL, and his fit could be good with JYs system if he can adjust. Played a ton of snaps, like 2400. If he can reign in his aggression and fit in with the system, he could be a very high-floor guy. Mayes has an interesting build for a wr, almost closer to a rbs build. Doesn't have great measurables, but a good track and basketball guy in Hs. Looks to have good hands. His qb, Ridder, was on our NL for a good while. They've seen a lot of him. He's got good polish, shifty runner. Whenever I see guys at WR in that 6' and under, 200 and under range, I wonder if they have been over looked alot for not jumping off the stat sheet, or if they are an overachiever. Mayes hands and polish make me think he's the overlooked type. I wonder if they view him as a slot back. If he can master the waggle, he could go far up here, very quickly.

What career, Mike? He has no "career". He's can't get past the first interview. That's like saying he wants to be a lawyer but can't pass the bar exam. As far as relevance goes, then why doesn't Rich shut this place down? None of us including you have any relevance.