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And we haven't won a championship since. games are won on the LOS. That's something that never changes.

Yeah, I think they still are but bringing in more Americans is lowering the pay scale. These guys had it so easy money wise for thirty years. All becauase coaches didn't want Americans playing on the OL. They wanted them at skill positions. However, it took years to build an All canadian OL. The Bombers never could do it under Osh though they came close. Things started turning around for the line in 2014/5 when they signed that huge American Guard who was 300 lbs plus. Yeah, talking to former players would certainly be sour grapes.

Nope, they can only vote/comment on their current team.

Agreed. they do that with kids today. The practices are soft. Kids go thud in practice learning to tackle which is unrealistic. Which may be safer at practice but games are full speed. I see 11 & 12 year olds all the way to high school age kids getting injured because suddenly they're going full speed when they never did in practice. Injuries happen. The games now are tougherthan practice. I've talked to guys I used to coach with telling me that today some kids don't quit after practice but after a game. They're scared.

Waiving Nyquist would be a good start.

Previous camps were soft, this one was certainly more competitive. It’s also a general issue, that practices are glorified walk through. TC isn’t what it used to be, two a days with high levels of contact. But that is progress, tcs used to be horror shows. Maybe the only good thing to come from chris jones. We need more meaningful practices with pads etc. I see that complaint about having to be in camp and wearing pads every day as soft af. I hope we keep bringing the score up.

I'd take KSB in a heartbeat. Especially if the price is right. Signing here would blow Rider fans minds. It would be sweet. Just an adendum, the loss of Donte Meyers may bring KSB's value up unless the Riders target another team's free agent receiver.

he got tons of talent, but he didn’t push any one to a higher level then when they came in. We just had great talent on the dl at that point. 100-135k ish is pretty cheap for a starting ni wr who isn’t the wide side guy who blocks as many plays as he runs. But since his break out year, he’s played just 28 games in 3 years. He hasn’t come close to the same level of production since then, and never broken 1k yards never had 70 or more catches and only 5 tds once. He’s a perfect candidate for an incentive laden deal with a low base structure.

If NFL teams had to pay CFL teams for the players, they wouldn't bother. They'd just bring in players that they don't need to pay for.

Interesting comments about tc given the opinions of some here that our camp is too soft.

So...yes?

Whether or not Willie takes a big pay cut likely depends on what other options he has.

I'm thinking that given another shot and what he's learned as a coach he would be a more improved coach. Continous improvement kind of thing.

Dave Dickenson, Mike Oshea.... but yeah being a good player isn't a prerequisite for being a good coach.

Oshea was pretty good.

Clercius has been exceptional in his extremely limited role. I've got no concerns with him pencilled in as the last wr and 2nd Canadian for this year. Now we do certainly need to draft some Canadian WRs behind that, preferably guys who can outrun slow offensive linemen. I think we can address this either with quantity picks or a quality pick. We could also take some swings on guys in free agency, bumping Clercius to a rotational role. Guys like Brissett, Gittens, maybe Ungerer, or Nield. We could take a flyer on Baker for depth. He hasn't been healthy, but that means he should be dirt cheap, and as a last wr/back up thats great value. We could bring back Bolo, again a low-cost guy who could slide back and forth between the last wr and the backup. I'd love that. We could also jump into the full-on reclamation mode pile with Bruggeling. He still has a tremendous combination of size and athleticism. Didn't we just go through this discussion, too? Am I crazy? Way more guys succeed in coaching who failed at their positions than all-time greats. Jake also wasn't always some awful mess of a player. He was a very good rotational guy and fringe starter at one point. Being as effective as he was at bullrushing and playing the run, in his prime, requires a lot of technique. The problem has never been his trade craft. It's been that he is so slow for maybe 3 years now; he is lucky to get in contact with an OL on a deep pocket when pass rushing. He's not reggie white or von miller or some thing, but those guys seldom become great coaches at the position.

Flat out, does anybody here seriously think that WJ is going to take a cut from $200,000 to say $120,000-$140,000? Secondly does anybody see the club actually limiting him to 50% of the snaps if here?

He might want to tell them his slump schedule.