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QB Tom Clements in his prime. He could run a modern 2026 offense with his skill set. Receivers James Murphy & /or Joe Pop would thrive in the pass happy CFL. I'd also seriously consider taking ONE OF...linebackers, Tyrone Jones, James West or Greg Battle. As well as DT Doug Brown & DE Stan Mikawos.

Yeah prime Dunnigan vs prime Collaros...Its Dunnigan for me everytime

He looks a lot more athletic than I thought he would. Very interesting player to watch over TC.

What about “reports” from Rider fans who aren’t actually at TC?

AND all time best QB football IQ imo.

Good time to thank @EdTait and @DTonOB for their hard work during camp for those who can't be there. The reports are all very appreciated fellas!

He's not going to have huge route tree, as I doubt we utilize him as full time receiver. He's going to be the guy that takes a guy out of the tackle box on SY because if teams cheat we will send him on a simple pass and catch route for easy yards

Mid-season of the worst case scenario, JT in pads drives a car with a police escort to the airport to pick up Chris Streveler. Season saved, MOS dream come true LOL

And don’t think for a second that O’Shea wouldn’t pull JT out of retirement if there were a couple injuries inside….. That just sent a chill down my spine.

Wait until you're surrounded by 30,000 screaming Bomber fans dude. Then you'll really see what "beautiful" means.

I hope someday he develops into a 5th receiver role as that would give us an elite blocker on all running plays too

Loved it when, on the first play, he absolutely trucked the d-back for a few yards, then threw him aside effortlessly and caught the ball.

so you're finally warming up to Tony Jones... 😆

Hard to say. We've seen zach go off for 3-4 tds and 300 ish yards in a half or less a few times here. But we always took our foot off the gas and ended up pulling him. Zach would have a chance at replicating the production of that game, though not a fantastic chance. Thing is, Matty could've had more in that game. Yep, it didn't last as long as it should, but damn he burned bright in his prime.

Collaros is getting a lot of cred for team success IMO. I ain't seeing him go off for 700 yards in a game.

Getting old and sentimental but wonderful to see the rookies chatting and to hear another MOS interview telling me very little but knowing Bomber Football is back in season.

not his sustained success. Short term i’d put prime dunigan up to that task though. He did a lot and had a lot less to work with

I kind of want a Canadian to line up who gets pushed back , is slow to the QB, and who can eventually join our coaching staff!

We have never, in the storied history of this franchise, had a better QB than "Prime Zach Collaros" (21/22).... Wouldn't trade THAT guy for the world...

I mean, pretty good first interview? Came across confident, but also humble and grateful. No red flags so far anyways.

He's right up there with Pacman Jones and Darian Durant as all-time great Blue Bombers!

Would appreciate any reports/Twitter posts/whatever. I have taken myself off of those platforms.

Good point. He’s got to be in the top tier. same with zach tbh I had both Etch is a good pick, it’s soo hard to compare even 80s guys to today, his era is nearly impossible I’d take clement’s over a bunch of guys above him, better leader better football player, but not the qb who padded or team hopped

His route running isn't the best that's for sure. But I suppose that's to be expected.

I am baffled that some are talking about KG as a top 10 QB and nobody mentioned Brock or Clements. You know who else doesn't get mentioned Etcheverry. Dude put up some numbers in the 50s and eaely 60s.

Yeah i always liked AC, but if i am picking Qbs for me it's gotta be Ricky Ray..for me it's not even close.

Yeah but prior to coming here the history suggested that collaros wouldn't be healthy enough to make grey cup games Yeah everyone knows he played a long time...

can easily be said our cup wins were not due to ZC brilliance...but the 3 losses...a lot of that could be hung on him...he was awful

I don't think you can rank them, I think you've gotta tier them. S-tier is Flutie and Moon A-tier is Ray and Calvillo B-tier is the rest of the top ten plus a ton of other guys. Lulay and Durant are on the bubble of B-tier for me. C-tier is Nichols, Glenn, Pierce, Bell, Maas, Slack, K. Joseph, Jarious -- guys who could start and win games and who had extended careers in places, and who occasionally shoot the lights out. D-tier is Bishop, Q. Porter, Jyles -- guys who showed just enough to win a starting job for a season or three, but never found their home. Would put the one-season wonders like Printers or J. Jennings in there too. The tweeners are the interesting guys. Glenn is a C-tier quarterback who had a B-tier career. Allen was a B-tier quarterback who had an A-tier career. That dude won a lot of Grey Cups in a lot of different situations, was freakishly durable despite being a pretty little guy, and went out on top.

The thing is that on the eve of camp, MOS doesn't really know what he's got. Guys haven't even reported for physicals yet, except for rookies and a select few others. Every year some guys come in as a tire fire and you have to pivot, Tui, for example, was that guy a couple years ago who came to camp and needed some conditioning to put it politely. If he does that this year, does that alter our plan to start the season? Probably. Motivation is another. What kind of work ethic did a guy come in with...is he half arsing? We've also had too much of that over several training camps with a blind eye turned. I am hoping that MOS see that as something that must stop. I agree that Doug would provide better questions, but I don't think MOS changes his interview style. He throws out cliches so that you have your sound bite, but he's never going to tell the media anything about any of his players good or bad.

Calvillo's greatest strength was longevity and the fact that he was so good so late in his career... but I'd agree that prime Ricky >> prime Calvillo

love this, thanks!... but it does bug me to see Wilson listed at WIL with 3 better options listed behind him...

You're forgetting Moon. He's got to be in the convo. And there just isn't a world where I'm putting KG above Collaros in a list of all timers. The question on BLM vs Collaros is a good one. Both had fantastic starts to their careers...then fizzled....then came back, though on the ZC has an advantage on the come back....BLM advantage on the start.

That's true to an extent, but watch the GC games he lost, or his playoff games, and you'd wonder how he lasted so long. I think Matty wins 4 gcs in a row here. First ballot hof? I hate that the time you go in is a thing, but he is for sure. Is he a top 10 QB? I hadn't thought about it, that's kind of interesting. For me, Flutie, Ac, Ray, Hank, BLM, and Allen are ahead of him. Between KG, Danny Mac, Lancaster, Dunigan, Ham, Clements, and Zach, you have 2 hard cuts to make the top 10. With guys like Austin, Harris, Brock, and Reily on the outside edge. Personally, I'd push Danny and Lancaster to the bottom of that pack. However, I could see someone pushing KG down instead of Lancaster. Or maybe bumping Reilly up for one of those guys. Top 10 QBs of all time? Yeah, right now I think I'd put him in the 8-10 range. Though Harris could still move up, Zach might even be able to catch BLM. I am trying to be easier on the older QBs due to the era they played in, part of me wants to downgrade guys like Allen, Mac, and Lancaster a good bit. It is, however, a privilege to get to watch BLM, Harris, and Zach battle down the stretch of their respective careers. They've all had a wild ride, including being written off and making unreal comebacks. Neck and neck down the stretch, all battling for current and career accolades.

I think there's a lot of revisionist history re: Zach because of the last couple years, which may or may not have been his fault (shoddy OL, lack of weapons, etc...) If you ever forget what he looked like at his peak, go watch some Game Recaps on YouTube from 21/22... It was something special. I'm pretty sure Zach is a first ballot CFL HOF-er, and his placement among the Top 10 all time QBs is a question for debate when his career is done. The next year or two will determine how much shine gets removed from his resume.

"And just like that, the parade is back on in Toronto." Laughed so hard my employees came to check on me.

Milt made chicken stew out of chicken **** qbs. It's Milt all day.

No Onterrio "The Whizantor" Smith

Ya Brown and Stegall would be the two, for me .. low key maybe Bolden....?

never said that....will be 1 gamed...or somehow kept, as there are ways to do it and like I said if Perkins shows he's legit I can see Wilson as odd man out That being said tho..this boner people have of having a Canadian QB is really dumb....If they are not in the top 3 on your club, and dont show promise...or a real long term hope of promise...why keep them around?...that goes for any player on any squad , not just Egersma He may pan out and be Rourke 2.0 or better, or may turn out to be another Jason Boltus.....or some middling run of mill QB who may win you a game here or there but not be elite....and for the latter 2 scenarios, why attached your wagon to mediocrity just cause he's Canadian?...There is no point in that That being said I pulling for him and hope he pans out...Not because he's Canadian but because I like the skill-set he apparently has, and his size. But I not expecting much from him this yr, and even next yet, but maybe we drafted a Golden Goose....time will tell

Pretty much. Back in the day, great DTs never got the appreciation they deserved. Doug brown never got a sniff at MODP, little on mop. But is one of the very best players in that generation. He should've been in on it at least 4-5 times. The thing is, QB play is pretty fixed these days. Top tier qbs don't move often, and are found even less frequently up here. The 3rd-4th best QB in the league isn't much better than the 10-12th best guys. Meanwhile, the Lines are much more plentiful for upgrades. And those top linemen have a much bigger impact on winning then optmizing with in the mediocre tier of QBs. Teams and fans value the inside disruptor far more than ever before, but they are still not as high as pass-rushing bookends. A great edge player who has a great game might get pressure on half his snaps. A great DT in a solid game might get pressure on 15% of his snaps, but converts far more of those into more punishment and more sacks, and also could easily disrupt the pocket on 2/3s of his snaps. We saw this with Kola getting roadrunner'd by Ceresna, entire games where Zach had no snaps where he could step up into the pocket. No joke. At DL and QB, we just can't afford injuries this year. Not just Jake, willy or lawson too. Lawson goes down schmek is playing an old jake number of reps. willy goes down mid season and we have a handfull of combined games of experience among all the rest of the ends.

What a bizarre stream of posts. You think this pick was entirely Walters driven? Because of a one minute clip? Walters is the facilitator on draft day as the guy in the GM seat, but to think he just dreamt this up without significant input from the coaching staff is insane. Think about this for one second: we just hired a new OC who has a decent history of using this type of player, we have never sought out this type of player until now and people are suggesting it’s just pure coincidence that we went out and got a guy like Daniels? I don’t know why people are so dead set on this “it’s gonna be one or the other” thing. They all work together. I have no idea how to feel about the Daniels pick but I know it wasn’t just Walters and the scouts cooking up the bright idea of snagging a tight end. That desire for sure came with a great deal of input from the coaching staff.