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  1. Seriously... just put him on ignore...
  2. Don’t fall for conspiracy about Dr. Anthony Fauci, hydroxychloroquine IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT An article published by a website run by an anti-LGBTQ political organization claims Dr. Anthony Fauci knew in 2005 that hydroxychloroquine was effective against human coronaviruses. The article cites a 2005 study that found a related drug, chloroquine, could inhibit the spread of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome. There is no known treatment, cure or vaccine for the novel coronavirus or SARS. While some early research suggests hydroxychloroquine could treat COVID-19 symptoms, other studies have found no discernible effect See the sources for this fact-check A widely shared conspiracy theory on Facebook alleges that Dr. Anthony Fauci is knowingly advocating against a treatment for the novel coronavirus. An April 27 article says the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases has known since 2005 that hydroxychloroquine, a drug used to treat conditions like lupus and arthritis, is effective against coronaviruses like the one that causes COVID-19. "Dr. Anthony Fauci, whose ‘expert’ advice to President Trump has resulted in the complete shutdown of the greatest economic engine in world history, has known since 2005 that chloroquine is an effective inhibitor of coronaviruses," reads the article. "How did he know this? Because of research done by the National Institutes of Health, of which he is the director." The source of the article is One News Now, a website operated by the American Family Association, a Christian fundamentalist nonprofit founded by Mississippi pastor Donald Wildmon. The Southern Poverty Law Center has classified the political organization as an anti-LGBTQ hate group. One News Now’s article was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.) It has been shared more than 27,000 times. (Screenshot from One News Now) Despite being one of the most trusted coronavirus experts in the United States, Fauci has been the target of several conspiracy theories about his handling of the pandemic — particularly since he tempered expectations for hydroxychloroquine during a March press conference. So we wanted to check out this article, too. There are several things wrong with the One News Now story. First: The article relies on a 2005 study about the effect of chloroquine on Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, more commonly called SARS. Chloroquine is chemically similar to hydroxychloroquine, but it is a different drug and is primarily used to treat malaria. Both drugs pose risks for people with heart problems. The One News Now story claims the journal that published the study is "the official publication of Dr. Fauci’s National Institutes of Health." That’s inaccurate. While the 2005 study has been indexed by the NIH’s National Library of Medicine, it was published in the peer-reviewed Virology Journal. The journal is produced by BioMed Central, a United Kingdom-based for-profit publisher. The study’s authors worked for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Clinical Research Institute of Montreal, and the study was funded by grants from the Canadian Institutes of Health Research. We reached out to the NIH for more context, but we haven’t heard back. FEATURED FACT-CHECK Facebook posts stated on April 12, 2020 in a Facebook post Says Michigan COVID-19 order bans gardening and the sale of vegetable seeds and fruit. By Tom Kertscher • April 15, 2020 Second: The study does not suggest that hydroxychloroquine could be effective at treating or preventing COVID-19, as One News Now claims. "HCQ functions as both a cure and a vaccine," the website wrote. "In other words, it’s a wonder drug for coronavirus." This is inaccurate — there is no cure or vaccine for SARS or the novel coronavirus. While some studies have found that hydroxychloroquine could mitigate some of the symptoms associated with COVID-19, other research has found no such effect. With more than 50 studies in the works, as well as an NIH clinical trial, it’s too soon to say whether the drug is a viable treatment for the coronavirus. The 2005 study found that chloroquine — not hydroxychloroquine — was "effective in inhibiting the infection and spread of SARS CoV," the official name for SARS. The research was conducted in "cell culture conditions," meaning the drug was not administered to actual SARS patients. The authors wrote that more research was needed on how the drug interacts with SARS in animal test subjects. "Cell culture testing of an antiviral drug against the virus is only the first step, of many steps, necessary to develop an antiviral drug," said Kate Fowlie, a press officer for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, in an email. "It is important to realize that most antivirals that pass this cell culture test hurdle fail at later steps in the development process." RELATED: Hydroxychloroquine and coronavirus: what you need to know Finally: Fauci could not have known in 2005 that hydroxychloroquine was a potential treatment for COVID-19. Available evidence shows that the novel coronavirus first emerged in Hubei Province, China, in November. While the novel coronavirus is similar to SARS in some respects — both are human coronaviruses that originated in bats, cause respiratory illness and spread through coughs and sneezes — they are different diseases. COVID-19 has infected more than 3.5 million people worldwide compared to the 8,000 who were sickened during the 2003 SARS outbreak. While SARS cases are generally more severe, scientists believe that COVID-19 is more transmissible. As One News Now notes, the novel coronavirus and SARS have a 79% genetic similarity and use the same "host cell receptor," meaning they infect people in similar ways. But that doesn’t mean the findings of the 2005 study apply to COVID-19. "Whether chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine are of value for treating infections with the different, but related, SARS-CoV-2 virus cannot be answered by the data in the 2005 study," Fowlie said. Our ruling One News Now wrote that Fauci "has known for 15 years that chloroquine and … hydroxychloroquine will not only treat a current case of coronavirus but prevent future cases." The website cited a study that has to do with SARS, not the novel coronavirus. It was published in 2005 in Virology Journal, which is not the "official publication" of the NIH. While the study found that chloroquine helped inhibit the spread of SARS in cell cultures, those results do not suggest that the drug is an effective treatment for SARS or COVID-19. As of now, there is no approved treatment or vaccine for either coronavirus. The One News Now article is inaccurate. We rate it False. Our Sources Business Insider, "Dr. Anthony Fauci and Andrew Cuomo remain the most trusted leaders on coronavirus, while Donald Trump and Jared Kushner are the least trusted," April 30, 2020 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Information for Clinicians on Investigational Therapeutics for Patients with COVID-19, April 25, 2020 C-SPAN, President Trump with Coronavirus Task Force Briefing, March 20, 2020 Email from Kate Fowlie, press officer for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, May 6, 2020 Healthline, "COVID-19 vs. SARS: How Do They Differ?" accessed May 5, 2020 National Institutes of Health, "NIH clinical trial of hydroxychloroquine, a potential therapy for COVID-19, begins," April 9, 2020 One News Now, "Fauci knew about HCQ in 2005 -- nobody needed to die," April 27, 2020 PolitiFact, "What early research actually says about hydroxychloroquine and the coronavirus," April 7, 2020 PolitiFact, "What we know about the source of the coronavirus pandemic," April 17, 2020 Southern Poverty Law Center, American Family Association, accessed May 5, 2020 Virology Journal, "Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread," Aug. 22, 2005 World Health Organization, Coronavirus disease (COVID-19): Situation Report– 106, May 5, 2020
  3. Tahnks.
  4. Very patriotic and brave, with other people's lives. I am all for herd immunity... but the physical distancing and lock down orders are mostly there to not over run the health care system...
  5. Check your sources: NoTricksZone Has this Media Source failed a fact check? LET US KNOW HERE. CONSPIRACY-PSEUDOSCIENCE Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence. These sources may be untrustworthy for credible/verifiable information, therefore fact checking and further investigation is recommended on a per article basis when obtaining information from these sources. See all Conspiracy-Pseudoscience sources. Overall, we rate NoTricksZone a pseudoscience blog based on the publication of climate change disinformation opposing the consensus of science. Detailed Report Factual Reporting: LOW Country: Germany World Press Freedom Rank: Germany 13/180 History Founded in 2010 by Pierre Gosselin, NoTricksZone is a blog that is skeptical on human influenced climate change. The blog features a tagline that reads “Not here to worship what is known, but to question it – Jacob Bronowski. Climate and energy news from Germany in English.” According to Pierre Gosselin’s about page “I received an Associate Degree in Civil Engineering at Vermont Technical College and a Bachelor of Science in Mechanical Engineering at the University of Arizona in Tucson.” Funded by / Ownership NoTricksZone is owned by Pierre Gosselin. Revenue is derived through the advertising of skeptical climate change books. Analysis / Bias In review, NoTricksZone publishes news and studies that attempt to discredit the consensus of climate scientists that global warming is significantly influenced by humans. Mr. Gosselin does not completely disregard human’s impact on climate change, but states the influence is minimal. NoTricksZone often publishes stories with emotional wording to influence the reader. For example, they often use the term “alarmist” to describe those who support the consensus of science such as this: Alarmist Scientist “Way Off Target” …Arctic Sea Ice/European Winter Claim Refuted By Newly Published Study. They also attempt to personally discredit people based on character traits such as this: Expert Psychiatrist: Greta Being “Misused For Interests” …Parents’ Promotion Of Troubled Child “Ethically Problematic”. When it comes to climate science, they often publish alternative theories for global warming such as sun spots. They also offer a blogroll that consists of other climate skeptics such as the Climate Depot, Judith Curry and Climate Dispatch. In general, NoTricksZone is a human influenced climate change denial pseudoscience website. A factual search reveals they have failed a few fact checks. Hundreds of papers published in 2017 prove that global warming is a myth. – FALSE A total of 58 peer-reviewed papers published in the first half of 2017 conclude that global warming is a myth. – FALSE New research shows that scientists are manipulating sea level data to inflate predictions of future sea level rise. – FALSE Overall, we rate NoTricksZone a pseudoscience blog based on the publication of climate change disinformation opposing the consensus of science. (D. Van Zandt 11/9/2019) Source: https://notrickszone.com/
  6. It's a step up from his usual source: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/watts-up-with-that/ CONSPIRACY-PSEUDOSCIENCE Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence. These sources may be untrustworthy for credible/verifiable information, therefore fact checking and further investigation is recommended on a per article basis when obtaining information from these sources. See all Conspiracy-Pseudoscience sources. Overall, we rate Watts Up with That a strong pseudoscience and conspiracy website based on the promotion of consistent human influenced climate denialism propaganda.
  7. You'd think that this would invaluable to the 'merican people and the business owners as they are trying to restart their economy...
  8. Ok- you first. Your Family next and your friends after that. All the Governments that are on board with re-opening their towns, cities, states, provinces- check to see how many of those politicians are willing to be as exposed as the general population.
  9. @Throw Long Bannatynealready posted
  10. Thanks for that!
  11. Oh wow, that is actually a sound plan. Good on them.
  12. https://www.wired.com/story/how-to-make-a-cloth-face-mask/
  13. trump lawyers threaten Cohen to stop writing his "tell-all" book... and then this: Epstein suicided... Cohen covided... good job Barr
  14. He should take her in a heartbeat:
  15. See, meanwhile I look at it from the perspective that I will take every precaution to not get infected and spread Covid to those i come into contact... my family, my friends, neighbors and in turn all of their loved ones... you, your wife... your kids... I am ok with the physical distancing because when someone needs to be placed on a ventilator... I am helping them get one by doing my part in not overloading our medical system. I'll more than likely be fine if I get it... Others though, with underlying medical conditions might not. So I am fine with physical distancing... I can go without that haircut, I will double check to see if I truly need to get something or can i do without or have it delivered instead... Physical distancing should be more out of consideration for your fellow humans than fear for one's self.
  16. Ladies and gentlemen... your 2020 candidates for the President of the United States! #smh
  17. here you go:
  18. I initial thought so... but @Tracker posted an article about trump and the citizens of 'mericuh. They are essentially in an abusive relationship: trump being the malignant narcissist serial abuser and the citizens being the abuse victim. And if the 'merican voters soundly reject trump... well what happens when a woman grabs the keys and children and are walking out that door on a malignant narcissistic volatile serial abuser- not going to end well... I thought it was going to awesome to watch it unfold... but man, that put things into perspective... I am actually frightened and concerned for the people of the USA...
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  20. Holy ****... you're right he actually managed to bankrupt 'mericuh. Once again... Initially shocked... take a moment and then realize that is totally on brand. There has to be a word for that...
  21. Dafuq? I have no love for HRC, but to say that she was equally bad? give your head a shake man. She 100% would have been a much more competent and less corrupt choice than the asshat-in-chief. 100%. Tell me I'm wrong- with evidence. For every negative thing you can name for HRC, I can easily give you a litany of the same **** trump has done.
  22. Ok. So all this hand wringing and pearl clutching at the lock-down.... two questions: what would liked to have seen happen? Before the lock-down and quarantine process that is now in place. and the next question: Given where we are now, how would like the government to proceed?
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