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25/26 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season Thread
At that point we clearly will be talking about the TC MVP, who will be cut before he can be handed the trophy. I don't see any great football names as of yet. So I'm pulling for it to be major williams so we can have some major paine gifs in chat when he makes plays
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Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
100%, this stretch is awfully slow. Vaccaro at 4th? Yes please. I'd love Henning as well. Cenacle is a make-or-break pick for scouts. His testing and knee injuries are massive red flags. 4.8 40 is turning the wrong kind of heads. Very good 3 cone, middle of the pack at best short shuttle, and declined to do the bench press or any of the jumping tests. His pre-injury unofficial jump numbers and 40 were fringy to begin with. Is he healthy? Does he have enough left in his legs to make plays in the cfl? You like his hands, size, build, and how he plays with the ball in his hands. As well as his production. Needs real polish in terms of route running, tons of talent in the kid though. It's a weak draft for WRs, but to take him high you really gotta have a good read on him as a player, person, and health wise.
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Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
Siskey didn’t give us many hints as to who the starter will be. That said, based off of our conversations with Tyler and HC A.J. McCarron – we’d predict that Corral is leading the way, with Elgersma in a close second – and Michael Hiers right behind him. Sounds like elgersma has had a pretty good camp down in the ufl as well
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Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
Before the current UFL, they did play some. Currently, the pay has not met the requirements to get the passport. Is the UFL a dead end? No. Is it a (better) pipeline to being more than TCF in the NFL? Also no. Most positions would be better off coming up here imo. Though some exceptions do exist. Specifically, QBs, TEs, special teamers, interior OL, and some defensive tweeners who'd be out of a position up here.
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Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
Idk how they run their camps down the UFL, but a 4th arm for camp would make a lot of sense. It is a shorter, earlier season so I can see not needing 5, but just 3 would be pretty surprising to me. Still, to your point, Elgersma has to be expected to be the 4th man on the chart. 99% of the time, especially in this day and age of the cfl. Yep. Even pro polish. If im looking at a guy who had a so so camp and some good pre season action, vs a guy who sat on a PR for 2 full years im gonna lean towards the guy with 2 years too. Right decision, love that guy, hope he has a brilliant post playing life and maybe coaching career. Or just volume. Especially if you need to push Wrs/Dbs. You need arms to do that.
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25/26 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season Thread
Yep. The random chuckitius he comes down with is pretty bad. Doesn't seem to matter how many DBs are in the area; if he has it in his mind to chuck on that snap, it's going deep. OFC we want to win the cup every year. But the realistic hope for me is that we have a pre-Zach 2019 type team building again. Where the D/teams went out expecting to have to win the game every week. And won many, many games. Rebuild the team into one where every unit feels like the QB of the team with the need to propel us to a win. That way if we find a qb worth growing with, or get another older guy we have the supporting pieces to dominate again.
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25/26 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season Thread
It's true, but there are other factors that make it less likely for us. Like, none of them were turning 38 years old when they had the comeback. Doing that in your early 30s is very different than doing it at 40. None of them had the massive list of serious injury concerns Zach has faced his whole career. Zach already had one miraculous career resurgence, and it wasn't one big injury that held Zach out or back last year. He's been held back by a big old stack of medical issues for the last 2 years. We will be giving Zach basically the best case scenario this year. More OL talent than you could shake a stick at. Seriously, our send best OL unit this year is better than the best of the last 2.5 years or so. Rbs and depth, WRs with top-end talent, and an OC that is basically hand-picked for him. I hate that we are tied to Zach; I hate even more that we have no contingency plan. I hate most that we had no real way of doing any better at QB this offseason. But it is what it is. Have to hope for betting QBing room next year at this point.
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25/26 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season Thread
rest of that list is trash but i can’t argue with out spot
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Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
Is he that much of one? Idk. I don't think you actually know till the guy comes back. Very strong community guy.
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Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
try to retain extra pick value at the top of this draft. it’s probably gonna be rather thin for our needs. I love manu and his upside, but vaccaro has similar upside with less long term flight risk. Manu could start for two years and be gone again to the nfl, would probably be a big fa flight risk. yeah, franchise anchor inside maybe c maybe g. Strong chance to be here and stay up here. He’s basically the best balance of upside, and pick security we see. i’d do that if that’s what it took.
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Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
I like Elad well enough, worry he might be a high floor low ceiling guy. Higher than where Id want to take him, but he probably will go high. Could have a great fit here if he eased us out of using a DI for the dime db. I LOVE me some Rohan Jones. But he is gonna get a good long look down south. He's a big TE with great hands, he's an athletic outlier, and equally an analytics darling/outlier, and he's even flashed some very good blocking game. If a team is gonna start him and reshape their formations around him, he could be a star. Play him as a flex TE/slot/H-back. He's returned kicks, run the ball, he's deadly downfield, but you could run a screen game up here with him as well. Too good a chance he sticks in the NFL for far to long to risk that high a pick with imo. Demontagnac is the type of wr you're probably gonna be stuck with in this draft if youre looking for one. And we are. Again, I'd rather take that risk later on. I'd love to have Vaccaro come home, but I'm not holding my breath. I'd love to work a trade for the rights to Manu for him actually. As manu is coming closer and closer to running out of leash down south. If he doesn't find a way/place to get regular reps this year, and stay healthy, good chance next year hes up here.
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Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
Low pay, and aiming at that will get you there. The thing is, most rookies are on pretty low contracts once they pay taxes and convert, not to mention living expenses being up here. After all that, even if you come in at 100k, what are you sending home? 25-30 maybe? For anyone with a family, it isn't a living wage being a rookie QB up here. Id say they have good talent. Skill levels, I mean, you always end up picking a tool kit that balances one of arm strength, and accuracy/touch. That's really all throwing sports. And part of the struggle in developing QBs. No different than MLB teams developing pitchers. The throwing talent is completely separate from throwing athleticism, and extraordinarily nuanced. You usually hope to end up with a guy who throws just hard enough and has the ability to put the ball where it needs to go, or a guy with a cannon and athleticism who is as much playing spray and pray in the pass game. Intangibles can be tough to quantify, beyond what you'd expect as well. Because basically all the QBs coming up are at best 2-year starters, it is very hard to tell what is a product of an intangible and what is a fluke or other factors. Back in the day, when every QB going pro was a 3-4 year starter, and a 3-4 year HS starter, you could get a much better evaluation of the guy. Yeah, I mean, teams and players don't want to wait. But at the same time, you only learn so much on the bench. I think young prospects need more seasoning in the first year and a half or so, then after that point. You really have to stress test them. Practice isn't a source of that at all anymore. So we see young guys who have sat for a year or two, know the system, understand most of the nuances of the game, but haven't been battle-hardened enough to be able to make use of those assets. If I were running a team, this is what I would do. Break down the QB prospects into 2 lists. Long list guys, and short list. Long list guys are ones that you've scouted extensively and are ready to keep around for 2 years, almost no matter what. Like how we waited out dru browns early struggles. The short list is guys who have the raw tools you like and may or may not be available. These range from flyers to guys you would watch for a few months to a season to get a better read on while they are on the team. Bring in 4-5 max of these guys. Assuming you have no real QB2, but a starter. You do install with your starter and give heavy, heavy rep time to the prospects. You likely would be lucky to have more than 1 long list guy at a time. So 3-4 short list guys, and as you see critical red flags, you replace them with other short list guys. Mainly, a lack of mental toughness, mental ability to read/progress/improvise, or a lack of the balance of touch/accuracy/release/strength required. You break camp with 3 on the ar, but any time you get one, you should take a vet for QB2. So you end up sitting with 2-3 developmental guys. Any long list guy, or a short list overachiever, goes on the 6-game out of camp. You test the mettle of the remaining kids, cycling them through pr, scout team, heavy drill use, and short yardage stuff on the ar. As they break, you replace them. At 6 games, if any are left standing, you switch them for the first group and sit them on the ir for 6, giving the first group a chance. So you sit a max of 2 QBs on the IR, with a starter/backup, and 2 guys going from pr to ir fighting for a spot. Repeat that grinder until you have 2-3 guys who are at least ready to be between qb2/3. Guys, you can't expect to easily replace them with free agents. Then, you run the blender again with them. You do this and hope to go into the next camp able to move on from QB2 or not being crippled if you lose qb 1. To run this blender, you need to be airlifting and cycling DBs and WRs as well. You can't really practice with QBs facing a real rush, but you can run a ton of Skelly. And you force them to run it on double time to create that friction to struggle against. You call snap, get the QB the ball, and he has to rely on post-snap read and reaction. Shorter than 5-second routes till whistle and next QB up. You'd also need more offensive coaches than D to facilitate running this. You'd each scout to dedicate more time to QBs than the rest, or maybe 1-2 almost full-time on QBs. You probably need to have 2 years to get to the point you want to be at. But most teams' QB plan amounts to either, Hope you hit the lotto, Hope your guy doesn't get hurt/diminish/retire/leave in FA, or Hope someone else can develop a guy who goes to FA that you can poach. Which is how you end up with 40 year old qbs with injury records longer than all the pages Stephen King has written. We are on the cusp of losing BLM, Zach, and Harris in this league. MBT and Masoli are basically done in all but paperwork. Vaj and Fajardo are 33-34 with a ton of wear. The pest hasn't played well outside of or been healthy-ish since 23. As bad as the coming rule changes are, the biggest crisis that the league faces is QBing. If that ship isn't righted with a new group of younger talent, the rest of the stuff will just be the straw that breaks the camels back.
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Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
Thats not what is happening, but that leads you to lunch box qbs. Which did not work out well for AFL etc. Pretty much. I know the cost would be a lot. Probably the larger of the last 2 cap increases, if not both of them in size. And that doesnt even include paying starters more money. But as the qb goes, so goes the team, league, and sport.
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25/26 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season Thread
Yeah, it'd be nice if they developed a great dining/pub area nearby. Polo Park isn't what it used to be lol, they dodged a bullet moving away from there. South Kenaston is better shopping now.
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25/26 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season Thread
It'll be interesting to see how the turnout goes for the riders. 500 bucks for the year seems like solid value for season ticket holders. But that market is not as spend crazy as it was when they broke their streak. The stadium location for them is awful. (aside from the fact its in Saskatchewan) Having a tailgate spot with a park and ride might not be bad, except for the driver. Makes me glad for where the stadium is now. It was a risky move but once they figured out traffic a bit its been a massive W.