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2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
We did, though. We always have more than 1 Canadian on the PR. That would be virtually unheard of in the cfl. Teams tackles don't have any thing to do with it though. Cole = nickle, karamoko = Dime. Pretty straightforward? Depth roster positon doesn't mean much, Griffin ended up taking a ton of reps, karamoko did early as well. Go back and watch some of the lapo early season break downs. You can see him break down the ford, holm, kramdi side with karamoko in a bunch of snaps. Tackles are not a success indicator, no mater what milligan fans say. Tanner cadwallader was the most consistently oustanding cover guy in the league last year. Ayers made more impressive solo plays on teams that didn't result in a tackle than half the league. He could've had 30+ tackles if he played less reliably in his lane. Karamoko was a reach in his role on D. On teams, he was honestly fine. He did his job and didn't sell out to try and make plays out side of the scheme. Which is 90% of a teams success on kick cover. It so happens though, we had some stellar cover team talent last year. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yeah ok. 2nd hallett had nothing to do with karamoko playing the dime role. He’s never played that. Lawson and feltmate had no thing to do with it either, how do you figure it did lol 5 games for karamoko, 1 for lucky, 7 for weitz. That’s not a coincidence, that’s more than we started over 8 nis. we were not thin at dl, lber, or db for ni players at any of those points. We actively picked 2nd globals over Canadians on the same side of the ball most of the 2 global games. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
You’re moving the goal posts. You said “we only used 2 globals when injuries mounted up with our Canadians.” Fact is, we broke camp with 2 globals including karamoko in the dime role and went with that almost the whole season including grey cup with 2. That was always the plan. I didn’t say we brought in quality globals, I’ve clearly stated many times we have been random with global draft since 22/23. ample teams and rotational/package global talent is available. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Not true, we started out with karamoko playing and saw heavy rotation for the first 1/3rd of the year. Lucky rostered once, weitz 8 times including the gc. I think our lack of depth contributed to this down the road though. And I think we will be better poised not to have to go two globals if we don’t want to. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Some bombers visited rankin inlet, gabe Wallace included. Boy, he is looking lean and mean. He was 6’6 350+ in college. Came to camp 330-340 with a decent belly still. Now he looks like a stunt double for the mountain. Doesn’t look like he just lost weight either, looks like he put on some lean mass. Can’t wait to see what he brings this year. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
We are, they just aren't getting premium time yet. check the top few guys on teams tackles, I think 3 ended up top 10 ish (its a long list.) and more teams rotated G DL last year. I would bet we do roster a 2nd global this year. We have basically every year since globals came in. I wouldn't be stunned to see karamoko brought back again either. We will probably continue to draft the exact same kinds of guys in the global draft we always do. Athletic enough tweeners with out any polish. yeah pretty much. Good on him for making him self a useful piece though. Guy must've made a good bit of money from pro football with out major injuries. Or talent. That isnt easy. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
We've seen more globals coming in that are actual players in the last maybe 2 years. And that trend will only continue. We seeing more of the big athletes from rugby and of Samoan descent move into the global draft. And that well of talent is very deep. For us, we haven't had much global talent since we let Hansen go. A global guy who does all 3 jobs, or a combination that doesn't involve a DI, is a big win. A Canadian 3-job guy is certainly rare these days. I don't think a global 3 role kicker is a stretch, though. Honestly, Sergio is a very solid punter as well. He should be doing all 3 roles again. The difference between having a DI American position player and a global rotational/teams guy with an NI 3 job kicker and having a DI K and global P is big. We don't get a ton of roster flexibility in terms of depth; that type of addition would be huge for us. I'm not saying we will hit on a 3 role global or DI overnight, but I am saying we should actively be using a PR spot to work on one. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
https://3downnation.com/2025/04/16/veteran-qb-dominique-davis-retires-from-cfl/ The davis era is finally over. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
The talent gap between a top 1/3 cfl p/k and even the bottom tier in the nfl is gigantic now. Legs has been hitting about 90% the last two years with out a sniff. We can and do sign guys to longer. If any thing, the problem is a lack of talent at the position these days. I’d also settle for a global who can do both jobs, but the leg talent up side is much higher there. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
yeah its really hard to burn a DI on a k, plus a global on a P. We should work on developing a K again that is G or Ni and who can do all the jobs. In the mean time we should also give the P job to sergio too. I like that he has a high floor, but I hope we don't give up on his high ceiling as well. I hope he was working his butt off in the off season on running and catching drills. I hope we see a heavy dose of him carrying the rock in camp and PS this year. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
useage will be important, as much for opening up other opportunities in the scheme. Brady isn't the threat out side logan is, so the classic fb dive hb toss type thing we have seen maybe 2-3 times in the past is a good basis. As well as subbing logan for the jet sweep that demski stopped running last year. I think Logan likely subs in for the last imp wr in sets where we have both backs in play. Logan can still run some routes and is a big catch+run threat any way. I don't think MCI will get as many reps or the ball. I think his offensive reps will laregely be blocking in heavy set unless we lose a string of ni pass catchers. Or unless MCI takes some massive leap forward as a ball carrier. How he looks in camp running the ball is one of the biggest things I'm waiting to see. Won't see too much of the scheme on open days. So it's mostly how MCI runs, if kev/gabe took a stepforward, if zach can throw with out a finger falling off, if strevy is being decisive and throwing with authority or allowed to do those things, who moves around in the secondary, and who steps up in the front 6. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yep, you got it. If he was cut tomorrow, half the league would show up at his door ready to pitch him as a reformed man and them as a forgiving enterprise willing to give a guy a chance. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I think the reality of our situation is that we are going to be really tight with DIs. with Ayers, kyrie, and both jones' we are married to carrying atleast 1 di Lber. Not to mention a chunk of those guys are very good teams players as well. Castillo is locked into another spot which pretty much leaves Logan. None of our Wrs are eligible to be a nat american either. Logan needs to be a super sub and back up for us. I think we also would be really smart to draft a WR that can play this year too. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yep, guys who are toxic manipulative abusers don't change unless forced and he hasn't come close to being forced. And for me, I wouldn't sign or play a guy like him under any circumstance. Idc if it is a flag football game with my house on the line and no one else can throw. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
All the wrs aside from lawler got significantly less than they have been getting for the past several years. DL is actually trending down aside from the top couple guys by a decent margin, LBs are down and DBs are down that aren't on the bombers or named ford. None of the positions have benefited from the salary cap going up as the majority of pending FAs and AR free agents have signed deals before the cap went up. They will benefit from it next year, and NFL cuts may well benefit from it this year. OL and QB are the big ones that are continually trending up across the board. Zach could play at a level where he is worth 350-500k this year, and kelly could be a guy whose salary counts the whole year and isn't worth a buck. Zachs bad out come for the year is being on the IR, Kellys includes a possible pr nightmare where he cant play and you still have to pay him. In generally with the 500k cap increase, every team would rather be in a situation where they have an expensive qb, than be sitting on 600-700k that they can't get value for. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I'd take any one over that guy. Idc who they are or how talented they are. 600k is maybe more silly money than it used to be. With most of the other top positions having their salaries go down rather than up the gap is bigger than its been in a long while. 600k is more than the 2 highest paid none qbs in the league. Last year and prior it was less than 2 of the top few. Now with the cap going up, 600k next year likely won't be as much an outlier. We could see a few of the 200-250k guys going up to 300k range. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yeah, I mean their are reasons/excuses that can be made for him, but we saw basically all of those run out of rope at some point last year. Not doing more to help zach be protected was really playing with fire. Imagine how our year last year would've gone if he got hurt after strevy and couldn't play? I think a guy like logan is ripe for a multifaceted role. He isn't a grant level KR where you need to protect him and maintain that production on return teams alone. And as a career RB, he is far more conditioned for the physical demand of multiple jobs. When teams get 180lbs wrs doing multiple jobs thats where problems happen imo. Logan is a stocky back who has been putting up in the range of 500 yards of offence on top of his KR duties. He had over 500 touches in college between catches and runs, as well as around 50 returns. He was the same guy in hs too, 300+ touches 100+ a game, catching, running, returning. He's a 26-year-old back with fairly limited wear in the prime of his career. I think you use him fearlessly and have him take wear off Brady. If Payton doesn't play much past 30, but adds a year or more to bradys career that is a huge win. It would be smart though to have a 2nd guy who can return kicks decently on the roster. You don't want Logan to end up in one of those spots where he runs one back, then the D forces a 2nd ou,t and he has to go back out, especially when he's our insurance for Brady. Drafting one of the really athletic offensive guys or dbs and moulding them into the 2nd kr might be good. Or if sterns makes the cut maybe he fills that role. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I think the list of his biggest errors from last year would be longer than WJ's wingspan. At the end of the day, he had a bunch of directions he could've gone in to insulate our offence from the struggles he successfully did none of them. Idk how well Zach could run that system. I can't wait to see what our new offensive brain trust will do. Giving a guy reps, isn't the same thing as giving a guy a chance. We kept johnson and ran him out for 10 starts too. All too frequently, what we like in a guy doesn't translate to being an impact player. We consistently downgraded our KR position throughout last year ,finally settling for the paltry shadow of lucky. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
He'd be the most likely candidate for sure. That said, Kelly could implode at any moment. Has the league had 3 qbs getting more than 600k at the same time? How about 3 guys making that cash with each having such a serious question mark hanging over their heads? All 3 could collapse this year and be completely out of the MOP discussion. I'd say that is more likely than them all excelling. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
That should be the goal. A Swiss Army knife who can play some wr/te, catch out of the back field, run and fill all the blocking roles. He’s got the measurables, the work ethic, character, and the head for it imo. He needs reps and polish running with the ball running routes and catching. He may not need to be a 1k rusher, but a 400-500 rusher and catcher would be great. Id be in favour of that, a bit more sustainable long term. Mci is one of the guys I’m most looking forward to this camp. The 4 top picks from last year all are poised to take big steps. Mci, big Kev, Wallace and Samson (kind of the forgotten man in that group) I don’t normally do camp posts but I might this year specifically on a couple guys including those 4. He was a big guy top to bottom, but big square shoulders really don’t benefit RBs like big thick legs do. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
You’re right, mci isn’t close to ready as a rb for that kind of role. But roster wise, we will be carrying 3 already. I think the 4th needs to offer more than a rotational piece with Logan. knight mid draft would tremendous. (I’m kinda going 3rd down as mid as the end rounds aren’t much of any thing.) I think we have a couple guys in this draft that could run the ball in rotation and who will be available mid draft range. With out another team locked into a Canadian starting rb or a top end guy available, I think the rb class is stuck in a 2nd tier at best bracket. I don’t think these guys are who teams would target to flip the ratio. It’s kind of a bonus depth position to draft Idk what to expect from mci in terms of upside as a ball carrier. I think a lot of that will be determined this year. Like you said, he’s got a great niche / high floor role that he’s basically ready for now. And it fits much better than what we’ve had in the past. We also have to see how his athleticism will translate to the gridiron. I don’t think mci will be at risk, I doubt we draft another guy like him or stop going soo heavy with the ar. He should be pushed hard in camp though especially if we bring in a back. One of the most impressive things about mci is his uptake. He went from no where near ready for fb/teams reps to a good contributor in year 1. Don’t see that much improvement in season often. I fully expect this draft to be a big bolster to our depth and other teams. I think we could see 3-4 guys making the ar out of this years draft being the norm, and contributing not just sitting. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I like that he does a good job of getting low when he needs to, and doesn’t let defenders square him up. Very much in the right mold for our running game. This draft has a couple guys that are athletic enough to play rb, with good size (too tall if any thing) but who have the classical failing of not getting low enough in their pads. They try to run upright like a small cut back. And mostly the guys in this draft have one or two good measurable traits and a few meh ones. Yazbeck is pretty consistent across the board athletically. I don’t think we’d look as high as 2nd though. Already having Logan and mci I don’t see an easy path to the active roster or in game reps for another rb. As such, I think we could look at who of those guys slides to mid draft range. Maybe 3rd if it’s a guy we really really like. I would like one more ni rb to push mci, and fill out the depth chart. Unless that guy is a strong pass catcher or teams guy I think they’d sit on the pr a good bit. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Ooof nothing funny bout that creep ass loser -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Right? Could be Ritchie or just about any other hc in bomber history. Idr the last time I looked at a football coach and thought, “damn that guy has great hair!” -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Mci needs more time to develop as a ball carrier imo. We will see where he is at in pre season though soon.