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2 years ago he got pressured and hit a ton too. But like bob wiley said when he held court with our media years ago, sacks pressure and hits arent all on the OL. Zachs in-ability to get the ball out clean/quick creates those. Zachs unwillingness to take what a D gives him and force deep shots creates them. And yeah, the OL being the worst he's played behind in years creates those problems too. As does Bucks game plan and lack of adjustments. Basically every thing that can cause pocket collapse, did last year. Except for brady blocking, who as always worked his ass off and did a tremendous job. And as some one said, zach doesn't deal well when he's pressured. The last 2 years we've seen more frustration, and anger at his own team then maybe ever. I think we could be any where from the bottom of the top tier, to the dumpster. I think our floor is higher and our ceiling is lower than last year. But that we will likely be better in the wr core this year, than last year. Sure could use another big rookie wr find.

did you watch him play off the ball last year? He seriously could barely get to the OL before the ball was out more times than I could count. I don't think you understand how critical giving up a free man advantage is in both the run game and pass rush. In our system we NEED to get pressure with 3-4 guys. No one can get pressure with 2 guys actually getting into the rush, and 3 guys requires a lot of work, game planning and talent. In our split field drop 6 package, a 40 front with jake on it means with the RB, every other guy gets double-teamed. (and every team was running chip and release at least on us.) So the C might have to chip jake late, but opens hard with the G on woods. WJ gets straight double teamed on his side by G and T full time. Then the end on the other side gets chipped deep into the tackles wheel house but the RB. No pass rusher in this league today can consistently win a double team and create pressure. If you watch the highlights of him you see a ton of the C shading towards him, and chipping the other DT first. You see him being steered and contacting 2 ol on some plays, usually when the ball is already out. If your NT doesn't have the C moving backwards, or have his hands on 2 ol keeping them off the 3T by the time the QB has the ball and is looking at his first read, your NT has lost the battle. Maybe he can get back in on the play if the coverage forces the QB to progress and wait for an opening or timing on another route. But its like going into the 4th quarter down more than a TD. Getting the odd fg in that situation is not bad, but it isn't what you need to win. In the run game teams like to slide away from jake, and read willy. Which is a nightmare for us to try and maintain run fits. Gauthier but 4-5 years younger. Real good pick up for STs and depth. But you don't want him starting or rotating heavily.

It is no longer a luxury to have a good back up who can come in and win games. It is a necessity. His arm was definitely diminished last year, especially early on. It seemed like he fought the ball coming out of his hand all year though. We saw a crazy amount of short to intermediate-depth tosses going low and behind, at the shoes, or just sailing way high into the hospital region for wrs. He's never been a guy who was great at check downs, or leading his receiver into more yac yards. But he probably bounced more screen passes into the ground last year than in his whole career. I firmly believe some thing is/was buggered up bad in his hand/wrist. He's had soo many hand injuries from following through and hitting guys helmets etc in the last 2 seasons. Sailing balls is a sign of trying to rush the ball out on a screen, but tossing em in the dirt is a classic sign of struggling to get the ball out cleanly. He's always been prone to chucking and forcing it down field. But last year was the worst year since he left sask for him in terms of reading the D and being read by the D. Defences all over had a field day reading his eyes and jumping routes.

I’m always hesitant to watch mos media stuff for this reason. The best interview I’ve seen from us since the gc week is paddy when he re signed. Im sure it’s real hard for mos to admit these guys have had it and move on. I bet he has an itch to bring back biggie still.

Not in remotely recent times. Dave Ritchie here, buono and the Don once or twice. Those 3 kinds had floating guys who would join them if they changed teams. I was thinking maybe Augustine, but I’d say that’s kinda low percentage. Strevy and the remains of luckys career I can’t see. I could see either in Hamilton tho lol. Strevy will have a job as qb3, short yardage, holder, gimmick guy for as long as he wants. Dom Davis is still kicking around in that role. And poopkup too. Neither of whom is better than the average linemen at throwing the ball. Edmonton could be a sleeper pick. Calgary as well, maybe Montreal. Here is clearly the favorite though. The rest of the league is kind of a long shot.

My bad, that group clearly has one more good game left in the tank.

Get in the ring Corey and Trevor! This is probably what most wants to do to all of us that talk bad about fat boy

Demskis deal is a combination of things that aren’t his or the teams fault to be honest. He didn’t decide to stop using the jet motion, or make our 1/2 hurt most of the year. He looked like a Canadian 1/2 under those guys and looked like he was trending up. He didn’t even drop off as a pass catcher. The rest of his game drop off could be age, injuries his and others, usage etc. but he isn’t a wr 1. And now the market has crashed. It happens in other sports more, he’s one of the few here. Zach, is in a position where we paid him basically the most you can pay a qb in the cfl and still be competitive. He was a mop who could carry the team on signing it. Best qb in the league by a mile. Now he’s no longer consistently top tier, possibly due to age/system/injuries/ surrounding talent. Similar to Demski. But Zach was badly rusty to start last year took a long time to get ready and didn’t handle the adversity the way a mop elite qb needs to. Both could have career years this year. I could see a good bounce back from both if hogan runs a good system. I like some of the changes in weapons we have. And hope our ol will improve, I think it should be mid season form last year or better to start the year. At this point we don’t have ways to spend that money better. imagine though, if we moved off both. And used that money on mbt/vaj, ceresna, and beard. Which group makes the team better for the same money? My bet is hands down the 3. I think this has to be the last year we pay them a combined 830,000$. Below average performance because we had the worst performing dl in the league, who they didn’t take.

Ted effect. I don’t think any one would’ve thought he’d grab way more than buck. That too is interesting. Buck hasn’t added any of our guys (as of yet.) I wonder if part of his piss poor performance last year, coming down etc involved not getting the kinds of pieces he wanted.

A pretty damn good food/travel show too.

funny the usual impression around here I get is a group of old guys in a retirement home. Ones yelling at the burned out light for being too bright. A few are yelling at the kids for playing on their lawn. Ones staring at a nurse drooling. Another is yelling at the tv for not being loud enough, and most of the guys are rewatching the same old game on tv thinking it’s live. I feel like the youngest guy here is probably 30.

Fox showed plenty well in very limited reps. Adam’s hit the wall hard late. It really boils down to one ni spot, woods at the other, and adams brings tons more versatility than fox. He’s an upside guy and not as good a player as fox but he can play basically any role in the Dl you want. A DL of; Wj Lawson woods vaughters with adams as a di, then Jake plus one other ni dl isn’t some thing I’d be too mad at. We could really use a strong rotational global/ni pass rusher ideally one who can rush from 3 tech, 4i and 5 in both fronts. And if that guy replaced Jake we’d be in a pretty good spot.

Truth and had a hell of a time putting together back to back strong performances. But wasn’t it just declared by some one that Haba Garbutt fox would disappear and get no further looks? 🙃 boy this is probably the most guys we’ve lost year to year in a decade. A ton of our young guys have been scooped at every level of development. It’ll be really interesting to see how Hogan is going to run this offence. We’ve added a TON of dynamic quick/fast guys to the offence. Reggie white, Dillion Mitchell, and Peyton Logan in for Wilson, lawler and lucky. White schoen Demski Mitchell and big kev with Brady and a sub pack involving Logan gives us a tremendous new set of options. That makes us much better at stretching the field side line to side line and deep then we saw most all of last year.

We had a rb he trusted who was tearing it up. But still gave up on the run game with it close.

True. Means you shouldn’t get duis, and sure as heck should have your passport sorted in a timely fashion. And shouldn’t disappear for weeks at a time on the field. Lawler helps you win games, some times. Excellent talent. Feel like when he retires you’ll lack back at what he accomplished and say, that’s it? Lawlers huge moments are as big as Milts in terms of impressiveness. But not in terms of those plays winning us games.

250 was an over pay 250 is still an over pay

Maybe they can use some of this new revenue to track stats properly and on time. Nah, probably not. I wonder if the coach's cap is also going up. The league could certainly use that growth.

Demski, he’s our craziest deal along with zach. But yeah slowly getting rid of bad deals.

Agree, though Lawson if 100% or close to it is head and shoulders better than Jake or shmek. Plus never know, Jake might finally miss games.

That increase doesn't make it a good idea to drastically over pay lawler lol. \ Typical friesen

it does make a lot of sense that buck would be super high on him. Hogan is very much a buck disciple. Bourgoin was a Paul guy going back to the 90s. under rated doesn’t mean most outstanding. Bourgoin and Marty are oft talked about. Hogan is a really young fresh/green coach. He’s got 4 years coaching offensive positions in the pros. But it is important to remember, buck didn’t bring hogan over. He did bring Bourgoin. I haven’t seen any thing regarding access to him being requested, granted and him interviewing for an oc job. I have a hard time believing that he was a serious candidate for any one. the limited media coverage where it the narrowed down candidates were listed, bomber site article on the broad candidates, plus the 3dn/cfl.ca all didn’t have him as a high level candidate and had Bourgoin /marty. I’ve never heard any one put a fraction of the reverence on hogan that Marty gets. He’s widely regarded as the best ol coach in the league and over due for a promotion. The only positive stuff I’ve seen or heard about hogan is from Brady. Well and herb. He loves hogan. But he holds hogan in high regard in general as a football mind as he was around him coaching D as much as O. all that said, hogan might do really well. Just as buck took Paul’s system 2 steps forward (then one or two back last year) hogan might bring much of the same offence with Some good quality of life improvements. Or he might be like a bad photo copy. We will get a good idea quickly this year. I’m hoping for the best, that’s he’s one of those young brilliant offensive minds who moves up fast. If those two can feed off each other then it will be spectacular. That might have been what slowed down the process honestly. They might’ve had hogan working with Jackson and other guys (internal and otherwise) to figure out if they were compatible together and if that fit would work here. Hope that’s what it was any way.

You’re looking at his listed gdr weight not apparently we paid him 285 to bring him back, down from what edm paid him. The market has been going down steadily but more so after he signed here.

That sucks. Hopefully he’s back to his former self for camp. Really like this deal though. Has our prototypical size, but way more athletic than the WRs we usually bring in. Extremely quick, very good top end speed, great jumper. Has the hands too. The high reward low risk team friendly guy id hoped for. Don’t need to be married to him if we get a great rookie. And he will push the rookies in camp really hard for the last spot.

Still for a Canadian that’s bananas. Not as crazy as fords deal cus he is a good edge rusher but damn. How do you compete with half a million tied up between those two? Should’ve been more than Lawson but under 180k imo Only Dobson has moved which is really odd

Football all over has opened up to smaller faster pass rushers both in hybrids and ends. No peyton Logan?