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Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Excellent point! I thought we would be 11-7 plus 2 or minus 1. At this point I think it’s 11-7 +1 or minus 2. Agree with both of those. Adam’s and fox as well. -
CFL - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to BigBlue's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
https://3downnation.com/2024/06/12/darian-durant-regrets-not-taking-pay-cut-to-finish-cfl-career-with-saskatchewan-roughriders/ No mention of his bonus stealing. -
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Bang on. We had soo much talent at lber in camp. Not playing any of those guys is aggravating as all hell. -
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Mci had one carry but yes. If he was any more upright in that run he could’ve dunked lol. -
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Truth to that for sure. But even last year we had guys that have succeeded here on teams. Another is that tackling is a direct result of discipline and coaching. Walter’s, goveia, McManus, and ringmaiden. -
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Ayer’s wasn’t a heart of our sts by any means though. Woods, was a key performer in our front though. I know mos and maybe the whole mafia view teams as important as O and D, despite yielding piss poor teams for two years that only got worse with grant being the only bright spot, but it isn’t. Teams play, is not as important as line play. We acknowledge this by carrying two back up ol who only play heavy set and do nothing else. Not even the defensive side of heavy. They don’t rotate they don’t play unless some one is hurt. But we’ll roll 6 dl, despite rotating those guys and asking them to play on every short yardage pack other than offensive goal line. Oline isn’t more important that DL. It’s harder to find and develop those especially since it’s the ratio strong hold, but defense wins ships. Acceptable mediocrity and self importance. We do it smarter it’s ok that we are worse at it. -
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
And lost us 2 grey cups. Is the goal to win 14 games or grey cups? No ones pushing the panic button here, people are saying wade and or Walter’s should intervene before it gets any worse. If you think this is panic mode, we better not lose this week, or the next home game. You’ll see panic mode from the average fans, and an attendance dip, and our team getting booed off the field. Also cost us any hope of improving through the tc pre season process this year and last year. -
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
The whole roster management thing goes soo far back. And is hand in hand with acceptable mediocrity from mos guys. Weve seen more rando fringe players up jumped to starting for part or all of a season only to instantly disappear when we finally move on. Thomas discussion was heavy early in 2021 when we would slaughter opposing offences, but then randomly give up huge runs and ypc but teams couldn’t hang long enough to keep running. Then stove came back from injury and the only soft spot in the D disappeared. We went through countless imp wrs, some of whom left very bitter because they didn’t get a chance despite the level of play we endured. Every year for as long as I can remember we’ve started out with entrenched dbs who can’t hang. Ever since jsk left we haven’t given new lbers a real chance to shine and our usage has gotten worse and worse. We’ve DI’d guys only to not use them at all more times than I can count too. The thing that changed is for a couple years our over all talent in comparison to the league was soo much higher especially on the line that we could over come it. And now we can’t. -
CFL - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to BigBlue's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
If he was, the extra reps weren’t high value. -
CFL - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to BigBlue's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
To be fair, football across all levels and leagues loves athletes who pop off the page above all other attributes. I mean gable Stevenson just got an nfl contract having never played a snap of football at any level. Not even pop warner. The attitude in football has always been take the athlete, and make them a player. Use strategy and tactics to cover for them and exploit their talents in the mean time. It’s not the only time we’ve seen this, lesnar, to Olympic sprinters, to pitchers quitting in the minors to play football etc. Football, has the highest barrier for entry in terms of athleticism and size. If you look at our roster, we have a bunch of guys with middling experience at best in football at the last level. You make your roster around the athletically dominant, and fill in the rest with low ceiling high floor blood n guts role guys like Thomas and hallett. We are trying to build a sky scraper with no beams and 70% glue. -
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
If by a big part of your cap hit you mean 4th or 5th highest on offence, and less than the last two ol we lost to free agency, you should re evaluate your position. 3 of the highest paid wrs in the league are here who average about 15k more than Brady. We have guys at other positions like wj earning comparable money. To say Brady’s deal is a mistake is silly. Too much old money, not enough young talent. -
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
He’s on a rookie ni scale deal lol. In time id love to see a 21 form set with clercius and mci as tes at some point. If both those guys run routes who do you have cover them? If they block do you have dbs try to beat the block? -
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yeah he’s gonna be scary good. Forget being able to have him and Brady on the field together or being able to reduce the load on Brady to extend his career, dude has the whole package. -
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Definitely expect heavy sets and 40 plus passing attempts. I especially expect to see more screens, the pa roll out crosser and other high percentage passes. -
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
You aren’t investing in the position, it’s the passport, athlete and soft skills that’s being invested in. You have to invest in every ni prospect. We virtually never see guys come from good d1 programs, with the type of resume an imp would have, and no nfl experience. Investing time and coaching is far better than more cap space as well. -
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yep. He has the right work ethic, desire, character and football iq. He needs a lot of coaching in terms of his running position, angles and reading the play. Even Brady needed a good bit of time, work and adjustments to be what he is today. Lots of people were ready to toss him away for Augustine not that long ago. No position is a turn key instant starter for an ni. -
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Rb is less easy here as well, due to the reads required in our tight zone scheme, the blocking demands and the ability to pass catch. Plus as we saw in week 1, the exchange alone in an option offence isn’t easy for the rb. -
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
It’s easy because the market is saturated with high talent guys and rbs generally aren’t converted position guys. Ike has about 100 college carries and under 500 rush yards despite his years down south. That isn’t plug and play as we well saw in pre season. That’s not how blocking assignments work at rb. That’s how they work at the line. RBs have to read the pressure on both sides, evaluate who has the fastest path, which isn’t automatically the inside guy, pick up a block and half the time here block and release. Augustine still can’t do it, neither can stanback. Spending time as a back up doesn’t earn you a starting job. Karamoko has been here longer than most of the rest of the dbs. Augustine can run, but isn’t able to push the pile and grind out yards which is what our offence needs, and can’t pass pro which is as important. No ones mad about Kevens being on the roster, he had 600 yards in almost 40 games of college ball. He isn’t a top threat but he doesn’t need to be for his role here. Or to slide woli over and play wolis role. -
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
That was a big part of what made me sick about it. Basically, no matter the reality of the situation, mos will think Zachs the best. Another guy who will have to be carried off the field and roster. A big part of the job of a HC, is making the hard decisions with players. Do not recommend lol -
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
This is 100% true. I’d bet we were in 30 fronts more than 40 last week. -
CFL - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to BigBlue's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yep sure would be nice. imagine running a bear front with, wj pass rushing on the nose, Adam’s and Oakman playing 2 technique, then Habba in a 5 taking a tight angle speed rush around the edge and Cole on the other side taking a wide angle speed route around the tackle on the other side. 5 rushers, massive disruption in the pocket. You could drop guys out of that look, twist guys, run a 1 and 2i/3 twist, you can have a mac spy and play a decent medium zone in case an A gap running route opens. But most qbs don’t want the risk of a 5 yard gain running through an interior gap. -
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
All we have to do is wait for a generationally good roster to overcome his weaknesses! lol. this type of roster management/mediocre acceptance is a good way to build up another 20-30 year steak with out a ship. -
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Lawler, the huge deals to biggie at times, wj, jj we’ve spent lots of premium 100-125k on fringe roster guys while going cheap on dbs. Qbs make that money for starting the cfl. 500k is NOT in the mike Reilly bc contract range hurting the team. Like I said previously in the off season, the move to make was keep brown and bring stevy back while trading Zach away. At some point you have to go young at qb. Better to get value, keep a home grown talent and have a change of pace valuable back up who can take over in case of failure, than riding a mid 30 qb into his careers grave. We would’ve saved impactful money, moved on from more vets, and might’ve been better this year over all any way. -
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Boy we better not leave Augustine on the field a lot in pass pro or zachs gonna have a worse game than last week. Augustine gets hurt our run game is done for too. why keep on ayers who gets no snaps over woods? Why carry soo many Imp wrs that won’t see the field or the ball? I have a sickly sinking feeling about this game -
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Hated soo much of that interview. Every coach and style has a shelf life. Some times you can shake it up with management changing the tone, mark frequently you have to make a painful change. I don’t see us missing the play offs unless some thing crazy happens at qb, and I don’t see us making a change like that this year or maybe next too.