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I don’t think plop had a group that was his guys. Buck might not only fine will tell. Idk what the chances are he actually leaves either. Maybe 25%? it is tight, I hate it soo much. It should atleast just be coaches with another for front office and scouts with no multi tier Chris jones poison pill contracts. I think what it’s gonna lead to is more asts and cos getting poached by the xfl/usfl and ncaa. Xfl has been paying 500k us, with those lower taxes since its return and I can see that going up. I doubt even Chris jones is making that.

In general the front office cap is gonna be real tight here. If we have to replace buck and do it internally, we will also need a qb coach. That will bring things even tighter. If we fill from out side that wont be cheap either. A team with an empty staff could offer more flexibility for buck to offer to Costello. If buck runs his own offence mainly then he could give Costello co ordinator money

Unless he pulls out right away I think you have to be right. Mos has only been coaching a couple more years than buck over all. I get that it’s a tough thing to strike when the iron is hot and you know you’re going to start with a bad team. I don’t think buck is ready though.

If it happens I think the short list is 1) costanza. He just re upped with the Argos but it’s a job promotion, could possibly be an ast hc too. Idk if he takes it or not. 2) Bourgoin with a qb coach. The likely pick, though he’d really need support from some one with more experience. 3) plop. 🤮 but he left for a hc gig and the boys love him. I don’t know if this is a nightmare situation or if he’s actually be able to tame Zach and get him running proper check downs. But I wouldn’t hold my breath. I dont see us being the team to go after an another teams guy who is a total out sider to the mafia like condell or Milanovich, or even a young up and comer. My dark horses would be khari, which would likely be worse than plop he squeaks in due to tightness back in the day with wade. And 0.001% chance dark horse of June jones. He wants back in the cfl, not a lot of jobs open, I know he has a lot of respect from mos coaching against him.

Yeah, if Brady hits fa though buck could drive the price up on him to the point it costs us some one like schoen/lawler. Bailey, brown, bolo, gmc, Augustine, and ol like kola and Richmond are the most likely to get lured away if buck goes.

I do expect more uncertainty this year though just from guys on the retirement fringe even. I think the early keys to the off season involve possibly replacing buck, doing the most to bring back lawler, schoen, Brady, and brown, and getting a real punter ideally a Canadian who can kick off too.

So does buck. He’s been here longer than most every one including mos. thats what id tend to believe. Though it does happen that guys go through the process to get experience. Normally when that happens you hear them quickly pull their name out from final consideration though. If I was in that position deciding between mace and buck I’d take mace. Defensive guys tend to do a better job of working with asts to run a D and team where offensive guys imo struggle more with micro managing every thing. Offence in all football is what sells and draws. If you’re an offensive coach and become a hc you really need to own the offence. Fans expect dynamic exciting offence right away, no matter general success. Personally id rather have a more polished none plop disciple as oc. I think buck needs more polishing as an oc little on a hc. He hasn’t been able to reign in Zach or calm him down. Idk how he’s going to manage defensive players or veteran coaches under him. Though if buck leaves I expect him to go hard after our key offensive free agents. Brady, brown, Bailey, lawler and schoen. And I expect him to get more than one or two of our guys.

Buck rejected the riders overtures once or twice in the past too. I can’t imagine mace or buck taking that job. But it’s also strange that both finalists wouldn’t be willing to take the job if offered. And if buck goes I’d be surprised if he didn’t take some guys with. I just hope one isn’t Costello or jy.

Zach has had a couple of those type stat lines in the last two seasons. Kelly carried the way to a win in the gc, some thing Zach hasn’t. The three are absolutely in the same tier. The top tier of qbing in the cfl is not elite. No qb right now is. Any thing could happen to any of them. Play off performance isn’t cherry picking. Especially over 4 years. Cole weather? What cold weather game did Zach play this year? Defences aren’t better, you just don’t get to beat up on bad teams or teams in a bad spot. vaj improved this year again. He is still a very flawed qb but no question he improved. Zach has taken a step back for the second consecutive year and is going it be 36 next year. If you think that equals Zach being less likely to regress you’ve lost it bud. Agree. I think if you tell brown he goes into camp to fight against strevy for starter he’s willing to take a far more team friendly deal. Normally I’d say nothing will happen vets make the rules on mos teams. But as some one pointed out Willy was mos’ boy through and through. So was Nichols and big Chris. I think it’s more likely than most vets that he pulls the trigger. Though I think that’d be next year in season which could well be too late. Idk with Zach bouncing back. Eli would be a big quality of life improvement. I don’t think even Zach would know if he would have another bounce back in him or not. Ol being better would be huge. At the same time he had the greatest skill group surrounding him this last year that a bomber QB has maybe ever had. Lawler schoen Brady Demski bailey woli is insane. If he had a 2021 ol and half the threats would he improve?

1 we don’t know if Zach can. As I broke down his numbers in 9 bomber play off games are pitiful. 2 he wasn’t though. He was in a glut of 3 guys that includes vaj and Kelly. Both of whom are much younger. If he regresses or either of them progress more he isn’t in the top tier next year. I think that’s far from the safe move. The only safe move would be to bring both back. I bet you could get both for less than 600k total too. The options with strevy are unlimited. Idk if ham would pony up given how his stint there ended. But I think ott would.

I think to an extent the top tier coaches generally do that well. The don did it as well as any one I saw. He constantly found and replaced vets with young guys. Many of those vets still had meat on the bone and we with coach Ritchie at times made use of those vets. Old Dave was the ride or die with his guys, and that’s what crash and burned us after 2001. When vets left his teams they had nothing left. I think buonos real strength was finding great ast coaches, and developing/getting the most out of his QBs.

Our leading passers. Ploen is the only one a head.

Yeah, gonna feel like 9 months till then lol. Marcus crandle Cody fajardo and Darian durant won more grey cups each than 4 out of the top 5 QBs in bomber history including khari and dieter brock.

We would’ve been drastically better with that. I’d a had legs kick off as well. He’s very different now. 19 and 21 he played with no fear as his career had basically been over and he got amazing pass pro. Since then it’s struggled more and more and he’s played very choppy and un certain when under pressure. What’s worse when he throws from the pocket he is not able to hit his spots reliably with the poise issue. It is fixable, idk if he will fix it again at his age, or If he/we can fix it here or if we have the right person to do it.

So this is gonna be the whole off season discussion eh? 🤮

It’s not a double standard, it’s a standard. Walters and mos have met the standard Zach has not in the play offs. Though I think you can make a case for mos, I’d always give that guy a shot. He’s a beast and not just athletically phenomenal but his technique and football iq too. That said I’d rather have oakman right now. Likely. I wonder if they cut brown to let him explore his options. Don’t like it but I could see it happening if they don’t intend on resigning him to the kind of money he’s gonna be offered. 100%. He’s not physically imposing at all. He should spend the off season doing S&C with Lamar mcgriggs (assuming he still does that stuff.) he could put on 5-10 lbs of reasonably lean muscle between now and next tc, not lose any fluidity and gain a lot of strength.

Yea, but like I said Mack wasn’t doing jack with the draft it was all walters. He is absolutely explosive as a run jump athlete. He and Parker have the best first step in our secondary by a lot.

Grant is a beast. One of his college team mates at one point said he had the biggest squat on the team lol. Physicality could be an issue but you never know. Stranger guys are in the nfl. Teams could look at him as a package nickel vs speed teams like Miami. I’d say Brady has a 5% chance of getting a tc invite, and holm maybe 20%. Brady if he can get it more power to him. I love the guy and want to see him succeed as much as possible. Rb is always the easiest gap to fill. We could bring in some big power back or a balanced. Probably 15+ guys about to shake loose from the 2020 NCAA crop all of whom could start in the cfl, and would be a force behind our ol. A guy like lew Nichols, or Bryant Koback. Nah. His pre mafia era picks weren’t good, people will blame joe Mack but joe didn’t know jack about the draft. I’m sure those where walters picks. Also, faith ekakitie. Bennett is better than faith.

Hed be a Monster here. dudes twitchy and explosive. His ability to close is really impressive.

Even for the NFL, this is a silly notion. Ford is 5’11 188. Holm is 5’11 182. Dee Alford is 5’11 175. Dane Jackson is the same height and 180 donte Jackson is an inch shorter and also 180 Kareem Jackson is 5’10 183 etc. lots and lots of dbs in the nfl with the same or more slight build as holm. Emmanuel Forbes is 6’1 166. Half the dbs at the nfl combine this year we’re Holms weight or smaller.

Solid camp released and went back to college lost his starting job in college and wasn’t brought back this year. Disappointing they didn’t atleast bring him back. Maybe he wasn’t healthy or didn’t want to continue to try and make it.

That’s a good point actually. I hadn’t considered holm might get a look but he certainly could.

He got good chunks at times, as much as Brady got imo. He’s a good change of pace back or a good guy to use in a 2 back package. I can’t see us spending 250k+ between 2 backs, or making that work while keeping dalton/brown/improving in free agency.

Sam, dt, 3 ol, 2 wr. That’s 7. No one is gonna roll into the season with 2 ni dbs starting imo. S is an awful position to flip unless you have an exceptional ratio breaker imo.

1, Augustine is the wrong kind of back. He isn’t that get 5 most every touch grind it out back. He’s boom or bust. 2, He isnt good enough blocking or catching to be an every down back in the cfl. 3, We would need another ni to be his back up which puts us in a bad spot if Brady comes back. We’ve been starting extra nis and wasting dis half the year. If we lost Brady we’d just flip rb to an imp spot and keep Augustine to back up the imp. Lots of good imps floating around that would murder defences behind our line. Finally, Brady is not getting an nfl. Look. Keep in mind Marshawn Lynch ran a 4.4 40. Brady’s 40 is waaay too slow by nfl standards. He ran soo much inside zone stuff with few consistent wrinkles for him in carrying the ball. He doesn’t have tackle breaking power vs nfl sized front 7s. He’s gonna be 27 next year and has carried the ball 460+ times the last two years with 80 catches. Schoen didn’t even get a look last year. Rb is the deepest youngest position in the nfl. They aren’t going looking for guys like Brady with the amount of Carries he has.