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CFL - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yep, especially vs cfl dbs who are a bit shorter than nfl dbs. Too bad K9 instantly had hands like Chris walby when he came here. And had guys throwing him the ball that made Dru brown look like Zach collaros. Great dude, wonder what he’s up to now. He’d be a good one to be involved with cfl media/coverage. 3dn Writing, radio, even tv would be great. 3dn should really go after some guys like that and Doug brown to write regular articles. The quality would explode instantly. -
Blue Bombers - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
This is exactly what I’m worried about. That said the last few similar concerns going into the off season have been handled other than losing Ringmaiden which was an inevitability so just hoping this is more of the same. -
CFL - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
ALs cut a couple guys. I’d give Damontre Moore a look at the pr. Very talented de with lots of experience. Great guy to have handy in case some one gets banged up. I’d also give Patrick Davis a pr look. Big athletic ni ol from Syracuse who’s still pretty young and has lots of life in him. Be a good body to have in camp next year too. -
Blue Bombers - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yeah. Idk what happened with him. But he really seems to struggle with consistency going back to Hamilton. -
Blue Bombers - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yeah missing a nose hurt the defense in a lot of ways especially on first down. I loved the 3-3 look. I’d be happy if we did that instead of rostering extra dl and just rotated Hansen and Lawson a lot more. Much less Thomas, and much more 3 de set. That letting us get the young lbers in more is great. Even getting the ni backers in for Thomas is a win. A rotating dl of the Jeff’s walker, Hansen, Lawson and a bit of Thomas out of a 30 front would be about the best to hope for at this point. That with a mix of biggie kyrie Cole Clements and Briggs would allow us to keep guys healthy and even blitz effectively. Clements has shown a real good knack for getting pressure off the edge. Imagine if we started showing biggie and dropping him frequently instead of sending him into a guard, then sending one of the twitchy fast imp lbers off the edge? That’s enough of give any cfl qb nightmares. Holm makes great plays and questionable plays, but you never question his motor. Which is not some thing you find in a cover db very often. -
Friday Night Football - Bombers at Leos: GDT
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Guys aren’t identified and kept for pure talent reasons. From the marine to Schmekel to machino and soo many others. I think you too quickly forget how much we’ve sucked at lber in the mafia era. Two years of biggie, one year of jsk and maybe a seasons worth of games from kyrie over 2 ish years. Yet we’ve barley kept imp lbers around. Pretty much all of last year we didn’t have one on the pr despite kyrie being hurt most of last year. Look at how many ex bombers are in the league, even just at ol. Then look at how much we’ve struggled in pass pro this year. It’s not that the talent isn’t good enough. It’s almost never a pure talent problem in football. Edm ham ott ssk all have sufficient talent. Poor use of talent is the problem. Guys don’t adapt to the cfl instantly, and guys also don’t get that adaptation done by sitting on a pr getting a handful of reps a week in mostly un padded soft ass practices. You need to give guys a few regular season starts before they have had a real shot. We haven’t done that. Especially at dl, ol, and lber. The point is we haven’t identified and developed guys at those positions. This year we’ve struggled at db where we used to do it very well too. We have positions of need now. And we’ve cut more talent at those positions than any thing. Few have gotten a chance. Bennett has gotten far more of a chance than the blue chip guys we’ve brought in this year. -
Blue Bombers - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
It’s really strange to see how un physical our dbs are this year. Previously even playing soft cushion they made guys pay the price to catch the ball and gang tackled. Now days teams are running screens walking past the first defender and picking up easy first downs. I feel like ba has had 2 or 3 big hits all year and one was on a rb who really won the exchange. -
CFL - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
That’s a great point. He would’ve been a great fit for them. I agree on Agudosi. He can be really frustrating at wr. At the same time , lawler has suffered for touches a bunch this year. With how much Demski schoen and Brady touch the ball plus woli having a career year and sheed in the mix its hard. The thing that frustrates me the most with Agudosi is not making use of him on teams. As a package guy on offence and a teams demon he could’ve brought a lot. -
Friday Night Football - Bombers at Leos: GDT
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
That’s not one of them I’ll have to watch it later and dig the videos up Wilson only got a shot after a long while not really a good example. Sayles and stove got chances because of roster issues / injuries. It’s easy to assess talent and give chances to guys in a position of need. Not soo much when it’s a position where a young guy out performs a vet, or a vet is slowing down and performing at a lower level. -
CFL - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Prime roster management. -
Friday Night Football - Bombers at Leos: GDT
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Correct, though it was certainly sub optimal. Clearly we needed to jump off board from some of these vets already and didn’t. But yes, I fully believe in the young talent we’ve brought in. Frankly as long as guys like jj,wj,yoshi,Bryant,Neufeld,biggie, rose etc are on the roster it wouldn’t matter if we had the best nfler available at those positions, mos wouldn’t start or roster then over his guys. I think we have the pieces, that said, we should’ve kept couture if possible and paid the ransom for desjarlais in retrospect. That combined with 2-3x more sacks than those previous years. He’s still the best qb in the league, but he’s not in a tier all by him self any more. Yoshi steered him into the qb, the move is to ride the guy down field, never closer to the qb. Zach didn’t have a pocket to set up into and was pressured from the other side. Idk what you think collaros should’ve done in that situation. Yoshi barely got a hand on his man before he was around him then just hugged his pocket into Zach. -
Former Bombers in NFL (and spring leagues) news
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Doesn’t have to, but it needs to go well up, have a better basement and a cap per person. More scouts = more talent and better league. -
Friday Night Football - Bombers at Leos: GDT
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
When you break down blocking schemes even zone they seem complex when you look at the whole line, but when you look at your specific assignment and rules it’s very simple and has to be so guys can quickly decide and act and make the same calls. Marty Costello has two ol coaching seminars on the bombers site where he goes into painstaking detail on our system, calls, assignments, what they look for and what it takes to succeed. Any one doubting Booch should watch the first 20 minutes of the first one. And no, before people say it, we aren’t decoying with those videos. Ols don’t get by on disguised reads and assignments. As long as you aren’t tipping pass or run pre snap that’s all you need. Every team knows our run plays blocking schemes and calls. -
Friday Night Football - Bombers at Leos: GDT
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yeah I don’t agree. Dl being tired late in games has a huge effect on play call max execution. Look at the bc game in 21 where stove returned, and compare the previous games especially big runs. One guy makes a massive difference. A guy like Thomas or Schmekel or Bennett losing 20+ snaps for a higher quality guy and letting every one stay fresh is gigantic. Every one said we couldn’t recruit WRs, which was also wrong. We brought in a bunch of blue chip guys at the needed positions and cut the guys with out getting much of a shot. Even if they showed well. Di’s are extremely important and valuable. Wasting them and refusing to use the na is a huge edge handed to the other team every week. Look at the impact grant has coming back. And yet we wasted what 10 weeks on 2 guys who aren’t pro quality kr and pissed away tons of field position. -
Former Bombers in NFL (and spring leagues) news
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Imo the team doing it the most is Toronto. But it’s still a fraction of what it could be. Also hs senior scouting. The front office cap has been a nightmare. All the money is going to the top billed jobs. Not to the badly needed scouts. It needs serious addressing. Cfl self scouting has gotten pathetic as well. -
Friday Night Football - Bombers at Leos: GDT
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Don’t agree. I think roster issues are at the crux of not playing more aggressive in the secondary and most all our problems. That said, some of the roster issues is just that our old stars have gotten real old. That’s true. The easiest way to see this is how they communicate mid play switching off twists and stunts. Any one really interested should try to watch that. When you follow the ball you miss most of the play. I think the pressure and hits in general have collaros pissed off most of the time and tilted at others. He’s not shell shocked from his days in ssk and ham as a knock around guy but it certainly effects him -
Friday Night Football - Bombers at Leos: GDT
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
The tackles are showing issues, however ol alignment (gap size) also changes with the interior ol ability to pass pro. Our interior has been the source of a lot of pass pro issues too. I was watching yoshi mostly as he was giving up the pressures. Here’s what I saw. Firstly, bc did a great job of lining up their ends. Both our tackles are tall and long, but bc has been very good in the first and most recent game of aligning and timing snaps so the ends get a good start with out getting a hand on them. They also do a great job in general of winning hand fights. It’s a critically under rated part of pass rushing and pass pro. So at the jump yoshi is in a tough spot needing to cover a lot of ground to stay in front of his man. This also leaves an interior lane open for a stunt twist or blitz if he kick slides aggressively. But, he seems to be struggling with that lateral movement. He’s barely able to cover ground or recover angle vs fast ends. This could be a lot of things, age, size, injury or a combination of that and more. Also, bc runs a heavy rotation of undersized athletic pass rushers that are hard to keep up with for any one. Once he’s engaged with speed by a de out of position he stays none committal to recovering. He does try to match hip angle or drive his man up field he instead ends up looping and following his man to the qb. Props to him for not taking bad penalties in those positions, though some times a holding call is better than a sack. Most guys in his position panic and mug by default and generate a ton of flags. In run pro he’s usually well down field even earlier this year he was flying into the flats and down field on the pin and pull screen at times. Vs bc he seemed to be a turret trying to pancake but not even trailing pile engaging position. This time of year our ol always seems to be playing banged up which is no surprise given their age. Hopefully we see the west wrapped up soon and Richmond getting a lot of play while yoshi especially but also Bryant rest. I don’t think size in an issue per se. It’s the combination of his being the size of young couture and having Matt Sheridan mobility. I think he’s valuable as a 6th ol. But our former star ol are no longer able to carry guys and need a guy or guys who can carry them a bit. If we had couture and desjarlais I think we’d a given up half as many sacks and won two more games with ease. pff has been really under whelming and lack lustre. It’s also easy to over grade a centre especially when teams aren’t playing nose. It’s also note worth imo that when our ol and team plays well he grades high as does the whole ol but he never puts up a good performance when the other ol don’t. Yeah eli is a beast in the run game. His under performance in pass pro at guard was a concern but pass pro at c is a lot different. I don’t think he’s played much guard. Some guys struggle randomly at guard. -
The return of Odds and Sods - Banjo Bowl edition
wbbfan replied to TrueBlue4ever's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
And they normally age out fast. We really need to replace Augustine with a change of pace back who can take a few more touches off the Brady train. Not like Demski is getting younger either. -
Blue Bombers - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
My wild ass based on nothing but eye test bs is that he might’ve got his bell wrung but not had it caught by the spotter. Neck shoulder back would make sense similarly. Looked to me like he was tender and a bit discombobulated on the side line. But again based on the smallest glance. He has been taking hellacious hits the past month and year in general. It’s possible he was a bit tender and the staff decided to just sit him which would be smart. I doubt we will get any thing unless some one here does a deep dive on a rewatch. -
Friday Night Football - Bombers at Leos: GDT
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
What’s the kolo played fine based on? Is it just because the right side allowed soo much pressure in pass pro? Cus that’s pretty weak, especially to launch such a silly extended tiff with maybe the most knowledgable poster here. Lots of posts have been made going into depth about kolo and his failings. Can’t get to second level reliably in the run game, weak at handing guys off, blitz pick up and adjustments etc. And into the value brought by great centres being more than blocking a guy heads up. With out a doubt in general kolo is the weak spot in the ol. Far from the only one, but the biggest no doubt. And in general when you have a sub par centre and see all stars struggle beside them you can expect a dramatic improvement with the one position being upgraded. -
If holm takes the next step next year he is gonna be special. He makes boneheaded plays some times and just misses making a great play. But he’s got such a great instinct and reactive ability to make plays. It’s some thing you can’t teach. Combine that with elite athleticism and a clear love of playing and you have a great young dude. He isn’t Alford, but those are few and far between. Some guys gotta work more for it as a pro. I look forward to seeing what he does next year. One of the few guys playing for us who has his best football infront of him.
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Friday Night Football - Bombers at Leos: GDT
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
He’s the greatest natural football talent I’ve ever seen. 5’6 171 the dynamic change of direction speed was insane, the ability to instantly be at his top speed unreal, but the strength and toughness he possessed was truly freakish. Like grant now, he was just soo hard to take down once you did get a hand on him. He fumbled soo much the first two years just because he would fight to the death for a chance to get a few more inches. It was common place to see him bounce off and fight off tackles from macs and dl. It was also especially hilarious when mike sellers would use him like a battering ram in pass pro at times lol. -
Friday Night Football - Bombers at Leos: GDT
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
And with a trash ol compared to what Harris and Brady have had here. -
Friday Night Football - Bombers at Leos: GDT
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Plus his reliability catching and iq too. He’s a game changer returning. -
Friday Night Football - Bombers at Leos: GDT
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I was seeing shades of the milt miracle in edm for a second from the wrong side. Then Parker exploded and made that tackle. Probably the most underrated play of the year. That was a monster play. luck is the residue of hard work. I haven’t seen any one say he’s a bad coach either. Even the greenback trolls. Hc includes a lot of roles and mos is great in many of them. Not roster management, but still many. Being either a player coach or an authoritarian has diminishing returns. Mos needs to take the next step and figure out what it takes to overhaul a veteran club. That’s always the final lesson for great coaches to work on, and the hardest. Going to a guy like biggie and saying you need him to do and give more when he bleeds blue n gold and has lead winning soo much here is crazy hard. But it has to be done.