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On the topic of Philpot and League wide injuries, booch suggested in another thread that it might be the reduction in full contact practices. I took a Quick Look at a few teams 6 game lists and it is crazy how many high impact starters and star players are badly hurt. This easily seems like the worst season for injuries since the return to play after the missed season. (A good chunk of that was Edmonton and sask coaching being dumb though) they looked at kick off injuries and ways to reduce them this last off season. And it still hasn’t seemed like the problem they thought it was (mainly based on the nfl move) but some thing is causing issues this year. I for one think boochs point about practice is on point. It may not be the entire cause of the rash of injuries but I do think it’s the biggest single factor. The league might need to adjust the practice rules. Which imo would also make the games better quality and help develop young guys too.

I would think it’s this. Other wise we wouldn’t have gotten it on tsn plus thingy. 100% would’ve been better. I also was expecting ctv to have it airing on their platform with in all the apps they operate. Which would mean you could watch the games on prime, roku channels etc. which would be huge.

It was reported as being real strong and certainly seemed to reduce after the half. I’m not sure it was a crazy wind didn’t seem to be effecting passes a lot, so likely dropped off for game time some too. Pas is an odd one for wind, the upper deck really catches all the wind possible, and the field level has decent protection at field level but it can get stronger at deep toss/kick height.

Bonds is excellent but Nichols is better, bonds benefits from playing next to nichol. The half almost never benefits from the corner. And it’s doubly true in our system. The half is the one making tough switches. The corner just maintains leverage over his area while sandwiching with the side line. It’s also worth noting that bonds hands are shakey even for a db. If he’d caught all the balls that hit him in the hands he’d lead the league in picks. Ford and Nichols are out making catches like wrs.

Griffin and Nichols have been excellent too. Ford makes the picks and is damn good, but Nichols is shut down and the best tackler on our D. Easily the best at filling a gap and making stops on backs from our lbers and dbs.

Nope. It had to be linked to a paid cable sub. It was just the first game. Some problems will happen. Camera work was good. Getting more wide angle was nice.

No he’s just a Canadian qb who is now available.

Inb4 bc signs him to a 250k per year deal

Seems like a major injury problem league wide this year among skill positions especially on offence. Really sucks.

Steroids, hope he’s not juiced to the gills.

Hope he doesn’t piss hot.

The same kenny lawler that was our pass game in 21? The same one who nearly put up 1k in edm in 12 games then again in 12 games here? Laughable. If lawler isnt a workhorse, then there isn't one in the entire league right now.

I expect adams and maybe hubert will draw back in and an imp db will go off. Even with jake taking too many reps, if Garbutt, adams and woods are on for most of the run plays edm won't have a ton of success. I also expect we will have nichols cover the out side run fit on his edge again. Too bad we don't still have a bigger Lber who can come on to help gap cancel. Any of Gemmel, Petrishen, Moses, and Thomas would look darn good against Edmonton.

I mean 21-22 was nearly identical, last year he missed 1/3 and instead of being wr1 with out much support we had demski going for 1k, schoen, lawler still getting 900, drew and bailey combining for another 1k, plus brady getting 2k from the line with 500 receiving.

We saw it last week a handful of times, its always been one of our looks. It's just we used to use it for the slow developing screens more, but its been a thing we do for a while. Even longer ago when zach was MOP zach, and we would run the hurry up with the heavy set we would throw out of that base a lot more. It was the safety net back with harris and nichols, and back to plops time with blink/khari.

Yeah, I really didn't want to see buck on the field when he still had a career lol. I'll say this too, with how thin we are at back up qb now, I bet we see a ton more of that 3 target pass concept. Its pretty similar to what june jones was running in hamilton back in the day. Keep zach up right, give him as much of a pocket as we can, have him throw tight windows. If they take away the windows? check down to brady.

I havent seen any degradation in Kenny. Our passing offence sucks for multiple reasons right now. Bucks game plan, zachs limitations, mainly terrible pass pro. But also we have had a lack of depth at WR. Teams double kenny and wait for us to beat them with the filler. Im sure he isn't 100%, but if we started using him like we used to, and tossing him stuff that gave him a chance to make plays It'd happen all over again.

Buck Pierce upon hearing that flashbackdog.meme (imbedding images here never works for me) Me either. I mean, I loved the guys heart and toughness. But as a passer? ick.

Yeah that was one nice toss. I think we actually see deep opportunities in some of those clips, but I don’t think zach had the time to hit them. I laughed too hard when he started talking about loving to see the check downs. We know Paul, we know. His talk about athletic QBs made me think he really may not have wanted to run that strevy package at all. Which could be why it only ever devolved, even now. Id really like to see an evolution of our base zone read with sweep motion. Stay with the bunch iso form and clear out the wr, then run a wheel route with the jet motion player, and have them start the motion earlier. Have Brady leak out for a medium hook if it isn’t a run. 0 motion the inside most wr, usually chip guy on the line, as a second jet/comet motion guy to give us layers and a check down. Teams are coming down hard on the jet crosser in the flats, and the run gaps. It probably requires a bit of a boot on the end read but we’d have tons of openings for big plays.

Make him take a couple snaps behind that ol, maybe he will game plan/play call better for pressure lol. mos could be the best lber on our team, kinda sad.

I get what you’re saying, but the nature of scouting in general today is that you nit pick every single possible tiny flaw. No one has clean scout reports ever any more. On the nfls draft scout page they use a 3-8 grading system. 8 is perfect 5.5 is priority free agent. The vast majority of prospects who play in the cfl and nfl as rookies every year fall between a 5.1 and a 6.5, the big differentiator these days between nfl talent and cfl talent, is size and athleticism. We get a few guys league wide like Adam’s each yeah, every nfl team gets one or two like that. Now the difference between elite nfl players and average nfl starters is a big gap in terms of the chess game and polish. Tyreek hill was a 5.1. Marvin Harrison jr, the 4th overall pick, was a 6.83. Qb Bryce young, the first overall pick, was a 6.82. At the back end of the 3rd round they are drafting guys who are high 5 range. Dalton schoen was a 5.19. Chris smith was a 5.95. These were their flaws. Weaknesses Room for improvement with release against press. Allowed grabby coverage too much leeway in disrupting his routes. Needs better route efficiency without as much stutter-stepping. Might not have enough blow-by speed to consistently outrun NFL corners. Had uncharacteristic drops in 2023 Weaknesses Weighed in at 204 pounds at the NFL Scouting Combine; since 2003, no QB who weighed fewer than 207 pounds at the combine has been drafted in Round 1. Durability will be a concern due to slight frame. Has a tendency to run receivers up against the boundary. Leaves his lower half behind on drive throws at times. Needs to prove he can find reads quickly and stay on schedule. Deep throws come out flat and lose energy late. Doesn’t run as often as he could to counter the rush and pick up first downs.

Same. I also thought I could just watch the game on one of my streaming services that has ctv, or their app. But nope, need to log into cable to get it through that means. Did people with farmer vision even get it?

Soo strange to go after him when we cut multiple better lbers this year. Bjb on ctv didn’t draw well. I don’t watch network tv, does any one know if it was advertised? I wonder how much of the dip was cable cutters struggling to stream it? I ended up watching it on tsn plus channel on the app.

IMO game shape isn’t as big a deal for qb. Zach wasn’t in game shape for a few weeks, a 20 some thing athletic guy should be fine. Rust, sure an issue. But lots of guys have come out of nowhere away from football. Now the spleen making him wanna call it quits, I can see that. zachs health has been an issue all this year and much of last though. Nature of a 36 year old qb. Rider fans used to say 1 shot away from missing the season, and it was bs. But now, not so much. spent it piss poorly. I mean 300k of that was lawler who played what half a season? The two worst ols, one wasn’t markedly worse. I think you can rightly argue better coaching and wrs for Cornelius, but the fit of the coaching in sask was better. Any qb who could hit timing routes would’ve had comparable success. That’s why they let him go. If both were the same height and weight as zach, only cornelius would’ve ever gotten a sniff of pro ball.

2022 9 starts 1 bye week 6-14 1901 pass yards 8 tds 6 ints 5 rushing tds 291rush yards 243 total yards per game 1.44 tds per game. vs Last 9 games of 2400 yards 10 tds 9 ints 57 rush yards 273 yards per game 1.11 tds. that Edmonton team was a 4 win team tied for last in the league. The riders won 6 finishing 3rd in the west. The elk were 1-4 when Cornelius took over. The riders were 4-5, hands down better than the team Cornelius took over. Maybe as mobile as zach.