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he might have the light bulb to on and take the next step in hamilton. Boy, i’m not sad to see him go though. Inconsistent at best and not a great fit. between him n sterns, i would’ve gone for sterns. I hope jsk means we aren’t done done, just done with splashes.

Nah, we always keep a mix of guys, including NT,s on the NL. We had a few we brought in just last year, and we kept 2 on the suspended list for not reporting over the last two years+. I think both have been dropped now, though. It's also an indication that any front we need, we need guys of basically every role type. Which is why we have some 13 DL on the NL currently. Just like we have 8 ol on the NL. We have 10 QBs as well, so 10-ish guys at any given time for a position of need is about right. We also don't really **** around with RBs, Ks, or Ps on the NL. Even Lbers are pretty rare; we have 2 right now, and both are DB/s tweener Lbers. So our NL is always concentrated heavily with DB/WR, Ol/DL, and QBs. 8-10 of each of those, plus or minus 2-3, and the odd smattering of other positions mixed in now and then.

I hope so. You have that backwards. We ran what we changed to partway through 24 due to personnel limitations. Then we moved sharply back away from it last year in camp and stayed away. Idk if JSK has that in him still. He had it in spades the last year here, then we didn't see even flashes of it afterwards. If he does, boy, that would be a great fit. If he doesn't, and we do want to use a jack, we do have a chunk of smaller tweeny end prospects. We need guys who make the AR to round out our front anyway you cut it. We should have a really good idea of what we are looking to do between now and the weeks before camp. We have also prolifically recruited Nose/Dts in the past. Never done well at the edge, but if we do go back to a 30, they should be able to find studs to make it work. The best Ds in the world run modular play calls these days. Breaking down front, pressure, and coverage seperatly then combining them into plays. Which creates a massive amount of utility and customizability to the situation. We've done that with JY more and more. Did it some with Hall too. I think the Modular style of D play call, with 30 base front, is ideal for the CFL. With the yard off the ball and holding calls enforcement rarer and rarer, you have to focus on disruption and hits taking sacks when they come. It's not like the US, where you can semi-frequently blitz for hits/sacks. It just doesn't work up here in this era. But you can push a C back into a QBs lap and mess up his rhythm. You can flush a pocket, move around and close passing lanes, and exchange droppers/rushers leaving the qb with no idea on any play who or how many are coming. And the best way to do all that stuff, is with the 30 front. But like everything else, D in the CFL, it depends on the versatility of your AR. If we have guys who can play inside out on the line, guys who can rush from a 3pt and stand up while playing lber or db, lbers who can cover in pass or dbs who can play down hill and in the box, we can take it to offences like you seldom see from Ds these days. I hope so, we are all betting on it happening. I mean, only place to go is up. And with a better OL, wrs, and a competent offensive system/playcall, zach couldn't ask for more.

It is, but the thing about the NL is those guys could sit for 2-3 years or be removed in 2 weeks without an offer. It'll come down to what kind of ends we sign and if/when/how many Nts/Dts we bring in. I mean, do you understand the physical toll and wear that playing 0-1 and 4i puts on your body? The transition from 3 tech to 0 is extremely rare amongst pros, and non-existent for guys 30+. They ran less 30 front in 23 in edmonton than we did last year. That year, they used Ceresna all over the DL in 40 fronts. That was also maybe the worst D in the league in 23. I detailed a bit of the issue with 4i vs 3t. It is a gigantic difference going 1-on-1 with a Canadian guard vs playing the gap between the T and G. We ran as much assymetrical nose based 40 fronts last year, and significantly more in all the years prior to 24, than we have 30 fronts. On the bombers site it sounds like they plan to keep broxton on the left side, slide stan to right, and have Rando battle for rt/guard, while Vanterpool also battles for a guard spot. If we go 3 imp or more on the OL, and stay reasonably healthy, this team is gonna be worlds better than what we saw the last 2 years. Back to winning games in the trenches. Also, we are gonna maul teams in the pre season. our 2nd team OL unit is crazy deep.

He isn't a nose. He could play some edge in a 30, but that is pretty unwise for maybe the best 3-tech in the league, who is also pretty advanced in age and had injury issues last year. 4i alone is a beating to take. Forget nose. The most nose he would play is in cheetah pack 40 fronts with an end rushing from the 3 tech spot. Which we have done very little of the last 2 years. Noo chance would Ceresna agree to come here to play nose, probably not even 4i.

None of the DL we have signed are nose candidates. We have added some to the NL, but not signed any. Corney only got meaningful snaps when guys were hurt. Kongbo got more, but in roles not suited to development, Waggon was saddled to teams almost exclusively.

I don't think we are going to run the 30 base. So it won't be too bad. But we still need bodies on the DL at every role and both passports. I know we have some good imp DL on our NL. We will see what floods in the form of rookies.

If you look at our DL roster as it sits, we have no Dts over 295 lbs. We have 5 DL under 250 lbs. And we have 5 guys who are 270-290. If we wanted to run a 30 base, we would need a couple 300lbs noses, maybe even a starter sliding lawson over, and some ends in the bare minimum range of 260/265-280lbs range. 4I, the edge in a 30 front is pretty brutal. It's very similar to playing nose, but instead of primarily working an undersized canadian C, you are always working the gap between the biggest imp tackle and a big guard.

Lawson is really good. Though his versatility between being able to play all the dt alignments are his greatest strength. The issue is, you need 800-900 snaps easy from the nose in a 30 front. Lawsons peak is 550. Even if he stepped up to the 800+ and held up, you need insurance policies and some one who can spell him. The whole off season is winding into the point of, will he or won't he, when it comes to mos finally rostering the best players.

he is not a 30 front nose tech. Not in his prime, or now. He's a 3tech. If any thing in a 40 you'd slide him to the edge. He has played some snaps in his earlier days on the edge in a 30 and 40 in a pinch.

Mos loves over achieving canadians. I have not seen him love the high picks and us school kids (Cahoon style canadians) He likes guys like Kramdi, we've seen a bunch of guys with massive promise who produced in limited use never get much of a shot. Corney, Kongbo, Waggoner, etc. We have been a 40 Defence for 98% of the time JY and Hall have been here coaching. Would we have just brought in the best 3tech in the league to slide him over to 4i? Would Ceresna come over for that fit? Idk man, that is a much tougher role to play and far more wear. IF, we are going to be a 30 team to the volume we were in 24, you will see a group of import nose tackles brought in, and another couple canadian undersized DTs who could play the 4i spot. We only have 1 nose on the roster right now in lawson. And we need a 2nd canadian and another guy who can spell him on the dl. Imo, Jjones was as much a gap, but in an even greater area of need. As a guy who can pass rush.

I think Mike and Jack are more likely. Especially with the number of db/wils we have. We didn't run a ton of 30 fronts last year. We cut our 30 front usage by about 70% last year from the previous year. It went from our base more than 2/3s of the time to less than 100 snaps. Maybe JY will bring back the 30, but I think it was a forced evolution of our inability to get any pressure or defend guys in man. We turned away from it soo hard despite still having poor pressure last year, that I don't think JY wants to play a Canadian style of Fangio 6 cover. I think we will gear to get as much pressure as possible with 4-5 rushers, and probably rush the 5th guy or blitz as often as we play a 30 front and rush 3.

He hasn't been terribly effective as a pass rusher since he left here, but he does have the basic tools and sneaky upper body strength. Agree. He would. And I think he is finally 100% and stayed healthy last year. Im not sure if he's a wil any more. Maybe in a pinch if you need, but youd be better putting in a DB especially a bigger one. We went through that exact situation last year though

I got a sick feeling in my gut that they are only ever going to be allowed to play teams.

Thats odd... Right? Now, JSK is a better version of Tony Jones. He's the best run stopper in the league at Lber, because he is very good at getting off blocks and understands how to body block one gap while waiting to fill another beside him. He's the only lber who can play 2 run gaps like that in the league reliably. He is better in pass pro, though not great, and was very good pass rushing with us but never really saw that use or effectiveness since he left. The logic behind how we could still use Kyrie also applies to JSK. If we use him as a naturalized import, which he qualifies for, we could rotate him easily with a DB, canadian lber, dl Etc. Jsk, was also a demon on team in his first year before he was an every down guy. Now having JSK and Kyrie, and Jones is puzzling. Unless we have accepted the fact that Jones is very limited in pass pro and Kyrie is a shadow of his former self and we need to improve. This move does further concerns of a Jonathon Jones situation again though. Also, we have the rookie Brandon Bouyer-Randle, who turns 29 this spring and kicked around 3-4 nfl teams and the UFL. He's a very high floor rookie at a position that is one of the easiest to translate to in the CFL in Mac. And isn't likely a Wil candidate with his NFL bulk up.

Out of reach is a tough one, that depends as well imo. If you are in a qb controversy, qb2 might give you a much better chance to win if changed early. Outside of that, yeah, the game should be cooked when you swap. That point, imo, is generally pretty obvious when it occurs. You see the ol/dl and sometimes the D in general just gas out from the exertion and getting their tails kicked. It's hard to go off score to say when the game is over. Sometimes we've seen this team buried by 10 points or less in the last 2 years with tons of time to play. But we've seen other versions of this team come back from massive deficits. I think you also have to look at protecting your QB1 as well. If you are in a game where the QB is being pressured/hit half of all drop-back snaps, keeping him in to try and throw his way to victory in a lost cause is extremely risky. If you are throwing to run the clock or running, you may as well have a backup to do that. Dru brown became what he is by and large part being forced into games and coming in to clean up. Also, after the field changes next year, I doubt we see the comebacks very often anymore. That is doubly true in the CFL during this era. The thing is, you don't get to fully develop guys without playing them. Clean-up reps are a nice stepping stone to being able to take spot starts or step in early during a game. This used to be a luxury, but with the state of QBing, it's almost a necessity that teams identify and develop QB talent urgently. When I look at what the QB situation in this league would be 1-3 years in the future, it feels like I'm walking through a graveyard and picking out a plot. Rourke and Alexander turn 28 this year and Brown turns 29, Arbuckle turns 33 and Vaj turns 34. And thats the young guys lol. Guys like Brown, Alexander, and Arbuckle might be flashes in the pan as well. Qbing in the CFL, is worse than the CFL draft for being a crap shoot now.

pretty much average usage in an outlier year league wide. Lots of injuries to qb 1s, idk if any qb3 seriously stepped up. some teams like edm had poor qb play and flipped between two guys. Has wilson had a great opportunity? no. has he had opportunities? yes. has he shown any growth, no. Is the whole league drowning in poor qb play, oh hell yes. Any good/easy answer for a qb2? nope.

Or in swapping if we are late in a blow out

Sure. These are the drop-back snaps for QBs who were the QB3 overall or at some point. BC, Masoli had 91, Brice had 4. Cal, walker 66, vaughn 32, love 8 Edm, snider 0 Ham, Dole 0, powell 9 Mtl, Morgan 98, Evans 37, Dukes 2 Ott, Adams 69, Shiltz 57 Sask, Coan 9 To, Duggan 20, Horn 14 Again, Wilson had 26. Pretty bad for sure. Bellefeuille was a chunk better than hogan still imo. Wr core, bit of a push imo.

According to PFF, 68 snaps last year, 28 drop-back snaps. 24 of his snaps were designed run, keeper, kneel, etc. It also lists him as having 2 "big time" throws and 3 turnover-worthy plays. In 24, he had 6 drop-backs, 24 designed runs, on 40 total snaps with 1 turnover-worthy play. I don't put any value other than crude entertainment on their own metrics, but as a fun fact, Wilson was their worst rated qb and worst-rated passer in the whole league last year. They had Wilson as a 42.2 overall and 29.9 as a passer vs strevy at 62.2 and 57.4. They only had strev as the 9th-worst passer and 15th worst qb. Which seems wildly inaccurate, and deeply depressing at the same time. Im not sure a clear downgrade exists from Hogan, strev, those wrs/ol.

I mean, even pre-season and tc I didn't see a click moment from him. The offence was awful last year and not a lot better last year. We could really use a QB coach in camp. I hate that we don't have one. Bring in a guy like Masoli as a player-coach to sit on the IR, itd make a big difference. I'm not sold that he has poise; instead of just lacks pocket awareness. He has tons of arm talent, but man, his window is really small now. He also had 2 years in the USFL before coming here. As a qb you really have to show something after that many pro camps. (1 nfl with the cowboys, 2 usfl, 2 cfl) He had 1 good year in juco, and kicked around 3 solid programs before/after with out significant success. Basically, a pretty good HS kid, with 1 good juco year, and a lot of bouncing. That type of history, especially in a higher 3-star prospect in both juco and HS, should rise quickly. And he just hasn't. I'm good with Wilson being in camp, but he should be on thin ice. He needs to take a step forward and act fast to earn a spot. I like Perkins upside too, with him it'll all come down to how quickly he adapts to the Canadian game. He's pretty late in life for a QB coming up here. Thorne is a solid prospect, too. If the ball gets out of his hand quickly enough against pros, he could have some success. It's a bad position to be in, no back up qb with any level of productivity in the CFL. The QB market is ugly, and our QB room is one of the most challenged in the league. I thought both extended in montreal? Maybe I'm crazy. Wouldn't be the first time we took an easy recirculation type guy.

Terry Wilson, at this point, is no further along than any rando 1 year guy, or most rookies out of camp imo. 2 TCs and he hasn't shown progress after just having turned 28. I think if you bring Wilson into camp, he has to have a short leash. He'd really need to win reps in the first preseason game. QB is the one position we will go into camp worse off at. Zach is a year older, Strev is toast, no one else has progressed behind him, as we never successfully replaced Brown as a back up qb. Even if Elgersma signs, I think he's a year away from being more than a qb3 at least. Perkins has a mountain of work to do adjusting to the CFL game. Maybe Perkins catches on fast, or Elgersma catches lightning in a bottle, or some other miracle befalls one of the other QBs, but that would be in camp. Till then, we have a huge ? mark. I think our backup plan is going to be Montreal. Davis is their guy, and I think they like Morgan a lot. Which leaves one of Evans and Patterson on the outside looking in. One of them gets cut, or maybe we work a trade if camp goes poorly. After that, it's the likes of what remains of MBT/Masoli, or even worse, the pest. If Zach gets hurt in camp/pre-season, we are beyond screwed. More than 2 and out check downs too.

Ah thanks. Yeah it's a pita to keep track of availability from the tampering window on for a bit. Good pick up for them. I do agree, we won't be doing much for a while. I think we might dive back into the frey if things stretch out with the guys who are left. The only real advantage to publically saying we are out of FA, like walters basically did, is pushing a final deal or two imo. Really dont want him at this point. The QB class is extremely bad for experienced guys, but he's low on the short list of bad options. I don't expect us to make a satisfactory move at qb tbh.

I have a bad feeling that we will end up bringing in mayor McCheese just to spite all the trash we’ve talked about him lol

Wrs, I believe these are what’s left: Rambo, bridges, daniel’s, henry, addison, rhymes, gittens and robustelli. Of those guys, rambo, robustelli, and bridges would be great combinations of value and fit. Rhymes and Gittens are likely out side of our price range. Rambo is my favorite of those 3, but who ever will come in to fight for a spot and do the dirty stuff at a good price would be best. For pass rushers i’m including 40 ends, 3-4 ends and 3techs. We have the coaching staff and pieces to move guys around and capitalize on disruption from any where. Shane ray is the coveted guy remaining, probably out of our price too. Cox from the riders is very under valued imo, Lanier could flourish is more limited reps he might help flip our DLs soft personality and push our culture there, Mauldin is a reclamation project but a guy who can elevate camp as a mercenary needing to take a job. Of those guys, I’d really like cox, mauldin or lanier. Cox is the best player to step in for sure. Onyenka would be a real nice depth/teams fit, especially if we don’t manage to draft some one who can play. We could also go and look at the guys from the past 2 years drafts and haven’t gotten a chance or enough reps. We’ve had a couple good trades sending picks for guys like that. For guys like that, Ojo, brubacher, okpoko, Newell, harris, hubert, hergot, ageli, or von muehldorfer. Some of those guys are teams dudes who you need to polish into limited rep use. Some are guys who can get after the qb in limited reps, but you should polish into more useful teams/back end roster guys. Of those I like Newell, Brubacher, Von muehldorfer and silas hubert. Our dl is soo thin, we need talent, especially canadian talent. We have a starter and no guy who is a starter if he goes down.