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whole league sure needs it. But with the pay and the nfls pr size/pay we don’t stand much of a chance. It’s not that they cant find the kids who can play, we can’t get the ones who can. So we try to find the guys who can develop in the bargain bin. We went from finding guys like ricky ray driving a fritos truck to shopping for never have been guys at dollar general.

oof yeah that’s ugly. Idk that you can be a lot worse than what we did with strevy but yeah. Shiltz retired too. Masoli is probably just a formality. The rest is a coin toss of, experience but not success and neither experience or success but they’ve been around.

looks to me like almost 300k per year. We will have to see when the semi official numbers come out. I’m curious to see what allen got from ott too. yeah would’ve loved him. very happy with what we got though and looks like mad money. Dru brown should be really happy.

it’s true, but I don’t think broxton or ceresna will back out. Broxton is leapfrogging every single ni ol in the league to be the highest paid. which is huge for an imp especially one who is 32, about to turn 33. Ceresna is getting 125k up front, which is huge, and basically 500k over 2 years which again is 31 turning 32 and off an injury. even though it’s minor and not really a concern for us, that’s scary as a player that age going into fa. Tremendous value for both, and they get to play in front of massive crowds on what is shaping up to be a contender again. This is pretty much best case scenario for both. it’s odd that now houston has all this attention when he was out of football for a good chunk of last year

and ford gone to hamilton

damn that’s a big pay day love that guy, crazy pay for him though. crraazyyy that’s a real good pick up

Imo, this fall would still be too soon. If he’s feeling like his new 100% for next camp i’d say give him an invite

pretty much. Some good guys are gonna get cut. If woodbey, or allen take the sophomore step forward, they will push some one out. Same if Bonds bounces back. Vaval kind of blocks the back up spot, be great if he could take a step forward in coverage and be a super useful di. When ever a kr is also a db, and not great in cover i wish they’d get some practice reps at wr. If you can catch a punt reliably (ish) you can catch enough to run sweeps and screens. much easier to make use of kr dis on offence isn’t that basically done and just waiting to be made official?

damn straight I think it’s a sign that no job is given. Every one needs to win their spot. And we will make the best players work. Also, i’m very happy to hit b.c. hard in free agency, especially at OL. Long overdue comeuppance. player/coach that sits on the ir the whole year would be great. With the only good guy at qb gone to bc, we couldn’t do much better than ford.

The thing that stands out on the roster still, is back up QB. With wilson seemingly expired, and strevy toast, the back ups are ugly.

The starter battles would look something like this QB Zach, Chase, Perkins RB Brady, Peterson, MCI FB MCI WR Clercius, Wilson Depth, Corcoran imp TBD/rookie SB Demski, White, Nield Depth, Cobb, imp TBD/rookie T Broxton, Randolph, Bryant G Vanterpool, Paddy, Wallace C Eli, VIbert Back ups, 1-2 of the 3 none starters. Plus Poncius, Stewart, Elsbury, and Dooley. DE WJ, TBD Jenkins/Jaworski with the inside track DT, Lawson, Ceresna, Schmekel Depth, Bailey will be key imo Wil Kyrie, Woodbey, Ayers, Makonzo? Mac Jones, Smith, Novak, Smith JR Sam Griffin, Shay CB Moxley, Dozier/Bratton, Vaval DHB Nichols, Holm S Kramdi, Allen, Depth, Bonds? Mcghee, Texada, Williams, and Lawson. Thats already a huge list of guys with lots of experience in the league, or who were with us last year and we are high on. Way more than we have open spots. We very literally have taken off the worst starter in the league and added maybe the best. Certainly the best OL last year at the hardest/most key position. That is pretty crazy. With our depth chart, our pre season games are gonna be blow outs in the 2nd half when teams are going against 2nd and 3rd team OL who are still AR worthy guys in this league.

Getting moxey is crazy too. Cant believe how much we spent on the secondary. For the first time in longer than I can remember, we will go into camp with a fully established secondary. Not only that, but we got more bodies than spots by a decent margin. A++ and FA is just beginning, then the draft. He's spent, but this off-season is bulletproof from KW.

A few other random thoughts; Im crazy excited to see lawson and ceresna inside on the DL. We still need a rotational ni inside, and a 2nd de. But I think we will let the rookie crop play for a spot opposite willy. Still need more pass rushing depth though. Very happy to add nield and white to our wr core. Seems sure we are flipping to 3 canadian wrs, probably 3 imps on the OL too. Im not sure we are done. Broxton was some one I didn't even dream of us going after. Broxton and Ceresna are the 2 best free agents in the class. And white was top 5. This is the biggest splash in free agency for us in modern or semi modern history. I agree. He isn't the earth mover that yoshi is, but rando is excellent. Take kola off, and add an imp guard and he should be a monster. Maybe use the naturalized imp on big stan and carry him as the 6th? And worth noting, he says he is allready 100% from it. A fast off season recovery like that could really boost his off season as well. Idk what his is usually like, but a guy that age especially on the line needs to work the whole off season and not go too hard. This slots in very well with that pace and volume imo.

Imo, rando would be a significant down grade at G vs vanterpool. T, Rando, Broxton, Stan G Vanterpool, Paddy, Wallace C Eli, Vibert. ' We likely need to hide some one on the IR. maybe 2 guys

kw pulled out the wallet and killed the off season And it isnt over. For my money, Broxton is the LT no matter what. Hes hands down the best pass blocking tackle in the league. Rando was very good at RT. I think you give Stan a chance at RT, and G. Let the best guy play. Vanterpool was the best imp guard too. Today screams to me, best player plays. The way it should be.

100%. this is the best bang for the buck deal for us this off season crazy

Rando was excellent at RT

Id love to see two of white/wilson/demski run mesh concept. Off the waggle, force the sam/half/ or line backers to either trade off or chase and get cooked. Don’t execute perfectly and you get cooked.

I mostly agree. usage kicked off his down fall, and that stigma shouldn’t follow him as a coach, but it will for a bit, I don’t think it’ll be long.

absolutely. combine that with the over the hill gang most of the league is starting does the same. if some thing drastic doesn’t happen fast, it’s going to be second tier spring league offences we see each week

I don’t think many people here consider ford a legitimate qb. We’ve seen him handed a team several times in multiple situations with talent around him and he just floundered. I don’t think you give up on that guy entirely, But I think he needs to provide strong value and hedge his roster spot vs an american. It’s not hard at all to find a comparable running talent at qb to ford down south. 5200 yards, 16 tds 16 ints 3 years 53 games 7.8 ypa 4651 yards, 29 TDS 19 ints, 4 years 60 games 8.7 ypa Then you add fords rushing yards, it’s pretty lopsided in fords favor. But ford has been handed the starting spot 3 times, and hand better talent around him. Crum fell into starts in awful situations. Crum never had as good a co as fords worst. And awful rb talent. comparable wrs, ol prett similar too. If I had to pick one i’d take ford, but that’s also based on being able to use him in other roles and as a gimmick guy. I wouldn’t bet on ford becoming a regular starting qb. The list of available qbs is beyond ugly this year. Powell is the guy i’d want. after that it’s fliers on guys like evans, maier, and ford. Then you have the pitiful remains of mbts career, and an even uglier pile of scrap heap guys. Even at that, I’d have no interest in maier.

yeah, i mean i love what jake brought here for 5 years. Im hoping for the best for him as a coach.

His inability to even get into the OLs pads before the ball was thrown on passing downs. Being one of the very worst DTs in the league against the run and the pass for a couple of years. He couldn't get off blocks, even against centres, didn't demand a double team, and couldn't block a rush lane or pass rush. Usage made him worse, and made it more obvious. But the drop off in his play was one of the steepest I've ever seen. 2021, Jake was overplayed and used suboptimally for a good chunk of the year. But that was one of the best defences of the era, and when Stove got healthy, he was unblockable in the pass rush and a true 2 gap nose, allowing Jake to go back to a more ideal 3tech. 2022 Jake was burning out in games earlier and earlier while slogging through more and more reps. He would have a handful of good plays a season, and largely relied on cleaning up after others blew up plays or the O screwed up big time. 2023 Jake was permanently blown up and unable to impose any kind of disruption to the pass or run game at all. He benefited from others' disruption in 22/23, which was the latest his instincts and football iq could carry his body. I mean, that is still 5 very good years at one of the rarer positions for a Canadian to perform at in that time. For a guy who started with mediocre at best athleticism, and who was run into the ground, that is pretty good. But it doesn't take much to earn the waste-of-space stigma. Especially at one of the most valuable positions on the football field. come back in one year and it will repeat lol

For sure. Senecal would play for the min im sure in that role. I'm not sure ford had the intangibles to make that work. But if he does, I'd be happy to have him. agree

I agree. I'd add that he has completely earned the stigma and bias against him. But I think the floor is very high for a replacement, given how we have struggled to coach and develop talent on the DL. The verdict is out on Jake as a coach, but I am not really worrying about him.