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He’s got above average size and athleticism for an ni G. 6’3 n change, 315 but really lean at that weight. Hes got a great frame for playing interior ol. Hes a bit of an athletic outlier by ni ol standards. Faster and more explosive than most interior guys up here. Not the run jumper dobson was or as bursty as desjarlais, but being a half step behind those guys athletically puts you in a good position, especially up here. Hes got good feet, and plays with great strength. He isn’t the bench press gym bro, though he looks it a bit, hes far more the functional strength type. He isn’t as polished as fortin, though I thought both were pretty similar quality prospects. Fortin lacks a lot more in athleticism and raw strength but plays with tremendous leverage and gets every bit out of his frame. Hes also got that nasty streak, toughness, and grit you look for in linemen. Vibert could’ve easily been a 6th ol in the cfl this year. People often struggle to identify if guys like him are high floor low ceiling types, or studs. Imo, he and fortin had the best chance of being early starters and long term impact players on the ol. I think he is very very likely a starter in the CFL at G or C. If he over achieves a bit then he can be an all star type. For me, I don’t go soo crazy for huge interior ol, wallace has tons of use and upside and i think he should be groomed for RT. Guys like vibert get over looked because they aren’t 6’6, 305, running 5.0 flat 40s etc. But I see every thing you need for a G and a C to succeed in the cfl. I thought the depth of ol in this draft had some real potential gems. Hocevar, Pyle, Coakes, and Vibert, these are the type of canadians that anchor interior ol spots for a long time. Vibert should be on the ar this coming year, and he should push for a job if the competition remains soo soft.

You have the choice of competent, maybe 3 good games last year, vs a guy who in a short period of time carried his team to a gc, was league mop etc. If you aren’t concerned with character, and I don’t think edmonton is at all, it’s a no contest between fajardo and the pest. I do like those 3 a lot too. If we aggressively pursue the best ol men we can get this off season, Imp or ni T G or C, and play only the best players the line can take a big step forward.

imo, Ford time in edmonton is done. spin the wheel of back up qbs. Maybe faj stays to back up in edm, though i think both parties would rather split up. Yep. I don’t think you can even keep paying him 240k.

Ohh thats right. Too bad, but good for him in landing that spot. That does sound like a real cushy retirement job.

That offence has lived a very charmed life this year. Very similar to Maksymic IMO. Though I'd put him above Mueller, because like you say, we have seen Maksymic have to macgyver together an offence with tinfoil, gum, and the angle of the sun. They always take and go get some of their guys. The biggest old boys coach ever (saying some thing considering Ricthie) is gonna go get em.

LOL. I have always really likely Coach Riley. Whats he doing now, still in the USFL?

Extreme change is an interesting thing in the CFL these days. (forget the rules stuff) The fact is, most teams are between heavily retooling and wholesale rebuilding their entire Secondary, DL, OL , and WR core every year. Everyone is looking for the plug-and-play DBs from college, the next pass rusher/catcher, and any kind of help they can manage on the OL. Except for the 1 or 2 contenders in any given season. And then the 1-year contract base has massive free agency turnover every year for most teams. The requirement for turn over might be high, but in this league the tolerance is about as high as it gets in pro sports. Out side of the lowest levels of indy baseball any way.

The only thing odd about Mos going up to HC, is that it is odd for teams Cos to go up to HC. It is far more common for Dc and OCS to do it. But Mos was considered a candidate to be an excellent DC as well. It was a big get for us; it wasn't any kind of shock. No one thought Mos was un-special. Mace was an excellent position coach and defensive assistant before moving up to DC. Just like JY. An expert at what he coached, with the fast track. It was still too soon for him, but it had worked it. It fails way, way more often than it works, though. For every mace, you have 10 DeVone Claybrooks. Mueller isn't in that mold either. No comparison between an excellent imp position player who played at the highest levels and coaches up from that position, to a career as a backup, who started coaching on the other side of the ball, then spent the majority of his time coaching RBs. Mueller has been a notably good coach for 1 year. Frankly, I wouldn't put Mueller on a list of the top 5 OCs in the league. little on a top the list of CO candidates to move up to HC. Wow, that is an odd offer from Hamilton. So they want to interview Danny and Mos for the same job? I can't see him wanting that.

It varies a lot, especially mid-season. A GM will have much less impact on the roster mid-season than in the off-season. I agree, Walters should have a short leash. Any of the mafia who return should. The house from 10 years ago HAS been cleaned. Only Mos and Walters remain. Everybody else is gone. The house from 4-5 years ago is sparse as well. What happened 3+ years ago, has no deciding factor in what happens next year. Shelf lifes are extremely short in sports and even more so in football. 5-10 years is ancient times at the speed football moves. Dave Ritchie's entire era here was part of 5 and 1/3 seasons. If you line up the competitive parts of the time here for Ritchie, Lapo, and Dunnigan you'd still be short of 10 years. The mafia having been here 10 years doesn't make it more likely that next year will be competitive, it makes it drastically more likely that things will fall apart more and it will end sooner. yeah, Mueller is not even close to stepping up to a HC job. Realistically no HC is coming in with a bunch of guys from out side his selection as a coach. Maybe 1 or 2 top of the line guys like JY and Marty, but thats it. I also don't see strevy as a RB coach, and I don't think Biggie would come back this soon to coach.

I've only listened to a bit of HI. I don't expect him to be BLM, but if he is more than Forde that will be great. How wild is that? Every year it's been zach playing in the GC and talk of when will BLM retire to be in the booth. Now BLM made it further than zach, looks a million times better, and zach is doing the analyst thing.

We should have a Poll on this thread. Personally, I think Mos goes. This has always been the job, especially working under pinball and with more control. We have all known that from the day he was hired. I think Walters stays, and Wade continues for the time being. I've never thought Wade would keep this role for 15+ years. Wade should maybe make a call to Buono for his legendary referral services... He's been involved in probably half of the franchise turn overs since he retired.

So Zach is going to work the GC as an analyst. That is kind of surprising to me. He's never been the most loquacious guy. He's Forde esq and maybe worse. But who knows perhaps he will be better when removed from the game played that day.

I feel like we have seen cracks in the foundation of the Mos-Walters relationship at times. It's been a bit scarce, but the difference between their year ending and pre season interviews spoke volumes as well as a few moves we've made. That is a great quote. And Ted was all that and more. It does say something that he didn't feel that would be the case here without Ted ,though. To me, that sounds like between the lines he doesn't think we'd do what ever it takes to win, we didn't have that front office star aside from Ted, or that mentor type. Which does make sense knowing the nature of walters and ted. Makes me feel all the more for Penn too.

Wallace or Vanterpool imo. I think Vanterpool at G is turnkey. He isn't Bond good currently, but he flashed that upside. He's solid at T, but not at the point where you feel comfortable with him as you 1a guy. Eli also could be one of those guys. Yeah I think Bryant to G would be huge for him and us, Vanterpool or neuf could be good at C. Heck wallace played a bit. I actually like Vibert a bunch too, but he needs to come in a take job. I don't expect any draft pick to do more than be the 6th man this year, and even that would be really hard with the depth guys we have. I wouldn't mind us looking to flip a pick for a player like we did with Lawson and Peterson. Especially for an OL.

Yeah, the recovery seems kind of perplexing. He's not enough of a focal point for a ton of questions to be coming in for him, but he seems to be lagging. Should have some kind of update by next week. Hopefully its minor. Yeah. I think the CFL GMs are much more inclined to make trades now than they were a few years ago. And Cap wise, you don't often risk much with an off season trade.

Even out side of FA, bc swung a deal last year involving an elite imp T. He said She said. I would not be surprised at all if Walters and Mos came to be at significant odds with the roster. Especially when you look at guys going from favorites to released/un signed like the marine.

Would love Drew back. Manu is struggling with rehab with the Lions. He tweaked his knee and was supposed to be out 4 weeks, which wasn't supposed to be season-threatening. But he's missed 4 games plus a bye week, and it sounds like he isn't close to ready to practice or even have an updated timeline to return. Hard to know what to make of his injury/return. It is the kind of thing that can expedite a guy's departure from a team/league. But facing tough injury rehab is as likely to push a guy out of pro football altogether. I hope for the best for him, he was just starting to get on down there.

Our need exceeds the availability. Imo, 1 stud imp or other wise. The best Ol you can get, FA or trade. Scheming and removing kola would help. That with an optimal ol line up would certainly make us respectable. But the journey to being a team that dominates in the trenches, is long.

Imo, kelly is bound for edmonton.

DL and WR, you can rebuild quickly with money. OL is as much alchemy as anything. You need the right guys in the right positions, and you need to give them time.

Thing is, we have an Ol by committe as it is. Vanterpool was likely our most outstanding ol, but in limited reps because we didn't want to flip the ratio at G. Lofton was penned in as a starter but missed much of the season after starting much of last year. Rando was our most reliable guy, and like booch said he's likely an all start level T on a decent unit. Neufs biggest issue is health, he will play hurt even when he really shouldn't. I really like Wallace and his upside, but he wasn't where we needed the G play to be this year. Bryant could do with a kick inside imo, and then we have the guy who isn't Kolafied to be on a CFL ar. Plus the super sub who won't be started at C but cant play G in Eli. We need to upgrade our OL play and not by a small margin, and we need to clear out the glutt of bodies. Which means we likely need to clear out 3 or more of those guys, with the young guys being the least desirable to get rid of. I think adding 1 impact starter, and moving guys around will go a very long way for us.

100%. It’s the split of blame, and who/if they can improve for next year.

I think mos in torontos targets would include kramdi, gauthier, hallett, cody, strev and maybe a vet or two we’d cut. I don’t think he’d go full hamilton on our cuts. I’d send him a very nice thank you note at the very least

it’s the cfl, you can very easily fail up into promotions, forget carrying over hc gigs. Every established hc in this league could keep coaching in this league till they died if they wanted. Plus, all coaches in pro sports and football have a half life. No matter how good they are. And some times a coach just needs a change of pace. Like when saban was with the dolphins. Football in general, remember that kelly just got another job running a whole league and that mack wasn’t out of work longer than he wanted to be. I mean how many times has chris jones returned now, and how long till he returns? Think she’d come back for a victory lap if that happened? bet she would lol. I love lapo as a football mind, color and panel guy. Though I do get a lil nauseous flash back every time he says “throw behind the line route” of nichols throwing it to harris on 2nd and 8 then him churning for 4 yards and us punting again. I don’t need to see that guy running an offence again in the cfl. There are young guys in this league and country who deserve a shot to move up. as well as players aging out ready to start taking low level roles. Look at what ssk has done with their young staff. I don’t think any one needs retreads.

I would LOoove to see mos give an honest assessment of what he needs done to the roster, from his coaching staff and what he needs to do better. But I think all we’d get publicly is a no changes needed we know what we need to fix and it’s easy. Like we did last year.