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Wynton, Beverrette, and Judge are all right around 200k. If he is willing to entertain anything under 200k, every team without one of those 3 should be calling him. At 170-185k he would bring incredible value for any team. I mean for us, we could flip two lber spots to NI. Now if he's in the 210+ thats a big much for a one year guy. I do really like his game though. 🤣 Wow, Edmonton is just throwing money away as fast as they can. If Smith and Ford set the market for Canadians, Brady is gonna need about 350k a year from someone.

basically their whole wr core lol. Im sure meyers will get an NFL look, but he'd be great to have. Aj allen too, that guy is hitting FA at the right time, and off a big year.

It is not for lack of trying; the league is in a bad spot to attract QBs and is doing a poor job of developing them. The NFL is struggling to adapt Qbs to their game, and sitting on guys much longer, and they have the room to hold guys around now. Not to mention the increased pay. Plus dru brown, and Rourke.

Exposed at Wil? I mean, in pass coverage, we had the most vulnerable Mlber in the league. Or more than a bunch of the DBs were early? Teams around the league started rookie NI lbers this year to great success. Cis kids too, not sort of kind of Canadians like Shay and Smith. Smith played a hybrid DB position,l ike how we use the Sam up here in college, too. Wil isn't some high-risk position; it's pretty much the DH of the D. You can hide an awful lot a Wil and Mac in the CFL. That's why it's become a low-risk risk high-reward position to flip the ratio at. Elgersma is basically our long-term hope at QB. But I do mean long term. He needs to be on the AR and getting some work in practice, but I don't see him jumping into starting. QBs do start sooner than ever, but it would be insane if he even kept pace with the line Rourke set. Where he showed promise as a starter in 21 after being drafted in 19, then was pretty bad in a fraction of a season 24, then really finally cemented him self this year as an elite starter. I will be very interested to see how Elgersma progresses, being a CIS kid who got a pre-season in the NFL, but didn't come up here for the end of year. If he had come here and gotten some grooming on the PR, maybe dressed late, that could've been a real career accelerator. But like Walters said, rookie TC is hard for a QB, and it is also the biggest opportunity for one. Unless he is our short yardage guy, I don't expect to see him take a regular season snap next year.

We should've never been in that position where its dole or wilson in a grey cup lol.

I'm pretty sure we did. Idk if we used the most Canadians, but we had several games of 9 starters. Yep. Should be in a good position to get the extra pick atleast.

From what I remember from the post earlier, all 3 are pending FAs. Nichols is certainly the one I want to keep the most, but I also think he is the one who will want to win the most and be valued the most around the league. Yeah, it'd be a great luxury to get him here. I actually think as a WR the value on his deal could be pretty good.

Man, if we did that, with a canadian Lber and DB, we'd be back to beating up teams in the trenches fast.

Just continuing to overpay guys for what they used to do, hoping that somehow they will recapture something that is gone. It's sad. Listening to Walters talk about how every personnel decision was a yelling fight with Mos makes me think maybe he will take a big stab at the old boys club. He has been whittling away guys each year, far too few and too slowly, but it has been going down. I think that 1 of Jake, Kola, Kyrie, and Stan will be gone this offseason by our choice. But maybe Walters will shake loose 2 of those guys. I include Stan as Walters, "he was solid at LT," was about the harshest critique Big Stan has ever seen here. I'd much prefer to kick Stan inside and kick Kola to the curb. If we get rid of Kola and Jake, hell, we might have a chance lol. But then Mos might riot. I think Walters is going to go out a spend a NUT on WRS. Maybe Tim white, maybe Philpot. I could see Walters letting DBs walk, too. Kramdi, Holm, and Nichols at 140-150k last year was pretty crazy. Especially since JY has been one of the best at taking rookies and having them excel right away. I think 1 or 2 of those guys are gone.

Every single off-season, at least 7-8 teams retool in free agency. Full-scale rebuilds are rarer; it's more often that teams hire a new HC and we see where the mostly new roster falls. Like we will see in Ottawa this offseason. I think the closest thing to a rebuild we see these days is what happened in Calgary. Even BC's D was rebuilt mid-season. We've rebuilt secondaries mid-season multiple times in the last 6 seasons. NI talent is hard to rebuild fast, though 1 great draft can change a lot as we've seen a few times. Ols are generally slower to build, but teams are starting to realize we don't need to be married to forcing 3-5 canadians into those spots like teams used to. 3 imp ols are becoming more common and we've seen some 4 imp lines last year. Going Imp, and heavy, allows you to build the ol much faster. WR cores build fast, it's really just QB which you get or you don't have.

In Walter's press conference, he was asked about Zach's deal, and he still thinks Zach is worth 600k. (He unofficially confirmed the 600k, and I assume the 350k ish gaurenteed again) I broke down his playoff stats a couple of years ago, which were even more dismal than I expected. Here is some more fun with Zach's numbers. He has played 31 games in his last two seasons, and during that time, he has averaged 238 yards passing, 1 interception, and 1 touchdown per game. 14 of his 31 games have been under that average of 238 yards passing, 7/31 games have been 300 or more. With 10 games very close to his average. In 24 games out of 31, we see average, or bad Zach. And average Zach is pretty bad. 12/31 gave had more ints than tds. 8/31 games have had more TDs than INTs. His 2 best games of the last year skew his stats by 762 yards, 9tds and 0 INTs. If you remove his 2 best games of last year, his average per game drops to 228 yards per game, and .8 tds per game. If you create a split of good Zach vs Zach the rest of the time over the past 2 seasons, you get this; Good Zach, 2134 yards, 16 tds, 4 ints in 7 games. for 304 yards per game. A full season would be 5,472 yards, 41 tds, and 10 Ints. Common Zach, 5,250 18 tds 27 ints in the other 24 games for 218.75 yards per game. A full season of this Zach would put up 3937 yards, 13 tds, 20 ints. In 7 of Zach's last 31 games, he has been worth 600k. That is very comparable to what BLM and Rourke did this year. In the other 24 games Zach has played, well, you'd be better off taking Fajardo's worst 1.5-2 years. Or any other maligned QB that started in this league currently. Like MBT. 77.4% Zachs games played the past 2 seasons, he's been one of, if not the worst, starting QB in the league. If we fix "X", "Y", and "Z", does that mean we flip those games and see good Zach 77% of the time? Well, we didn't have the worst pass blocking OL over he past 2 years, far from the worst run game, and didn't have the worst WR core. (As dismal as the WR core has been, it has featured guys like Wilson, Demski, and Lawler over 2 seasons.) I don't see us having the ability to get a premium QB this year, even if we weren't locked into Zach. I think the best hope is that if we significantly improve at OC, OL, and WR, Zach will be a coin flip between league average (instead of arguably worst) and MOP. Yep, and when you see the fast turnaround without a year of bad ball, it's because of a QB change. Going from a mccheese to VAJ will flip your fortunes fast.

Hall has been coaching in the cfl for 30 years and isn’t an offensive mind. Ourstaff has more than enough experience with this game to know how dismal our play and game plan was last year. And yet it didn’t help us a tiny bit. No reason to think they will start effectively micro managing the O with success. We’ve seen the same mistakes from staff to office, repeated over years all with crushing season ends. We’ve heard all the talk of change, and how we know what we need to do. The only thing that will give reasonable hope that next year will be different, is action. Idc if mos/walters came out and said jake/kola/hogan etc cost us, or pointed at every single failing and said all the right things for plans to actually fix the issues. Only actions matter now.

That would certain help us next season, however we’ve seen like 3 good play off games from zach in all his time here. Even with phenomenal protection at times. At this point we’d need a blm type resurgence from zach. His play of the past two regular seasons has basically dipped to his average play off performance level as a bomber.

no one will get a shot at qb as long as zach has a pulse and a contract

I hope that is the case.

If losing 3 gc games in row and in fashion, and hosting a gc didn’t change our approach, I don’t see how going 10-8 vs 11-7 and 12-6 will make that swing. I sure hope they do but I’m not holding my breath.

Hodge was definitely a bit chippy in his article. Was this presser put on yt or any thing? It'd be interesting to see if he was that way in his questions to Mos. In terms of questioning Mos's decision-making, Noeller is right that he has the freedom to his privacy. He gave more than enough of the personal side. On the football side, it's fair game to push for actual answers. I have been seeing more and more chippy pieces about Mos/Mafia since late last year. And it's only going to get more intense unless they turn the team's trajectory around. Particularly, the second half of the article, where he gets away from the why he said no stuff, is when it gets interesting. This bit was interesting. According to the bench boss, he and general manager Kyle Walters have barely talked about offseason plans for the team’s roster. He declined to disclose the contract status of any of his assistant coaches, leaving it unclear who will return.

https://3downnation.com/2025/11/18/mike-oshea-shares-rare-personal-insight-in-choosing-winnipeg-blue-bombers-over-toronto-argonauts/ This article from hodge has a few tid bits worth reading.

sure wasn’t by a factor of 2 lol. I believe his deals here were pretty reasonable. Then toronto gave him crazy money.

For me, I expect to be looking forward to individual development. Seeing some young guys take the next steps and maybe move up to an all star level.

You thought the kelly and reinbold etc teams were going to get good? I kind of envy that. Free agency/coaching staff announcements will be the huge factor in me being able to find any optimism.

You’re right, looking at reporting, it seems the initial report is always 1 year extension, then more details come out later. Odd. A 3 year deal in the cfl, is probably the most job security you can find in football. The coaching cap basically makes you untouchable for 2 years and even then likely only able to be replaced with an in house temp for the final year. Why would they fire him? Mos defended him at year end, and the mafia just got a long term lock up. mos/mafia don’t want change, and now likely won’t make significant changes. Do you, or any one else had any hope that this will actually happen?

If we save 100k, that’s a nice chunk. Imo, I’d rather find another ni back to split carries with peterson, or develop mci and find another developmental guy. Yeah, 2 year deal.

Mos views teams guys reps as important as D/O. He has only started canadian lbers when absolutely forced into by injury, or absolute lack of options early. He’s got both shay and smith penned in for teams only when they should’ve gotten D reps Does any one think kornelson is a better guy to have fill reps than shay or smith? We could’ve gone imp at dt and ni at one lber spot. He also sat clercius for corcoran, that guys top speed is the same as old people who mall walk. Mos isn’t enamoured by canadians as much as lunch box types with football iq. When those guys happen to be canadians, it’s a wet dream for him. The marine was playing most of the season here in 23, when burtenshaw was sitting on the pr. The lber/fb super sub sts guy we drafted and lauded until mos fell in love with jackson. Same goes for charbonneau. You can also look at guys like Rosery, who did every thing we asked to the point of going back to school working on pass catching came back again, shined in his few opportunities to be cut while we kept wastes of space. Petermann too, it’s almost like the more athletic and upside a canadian has the less mos likes them. He’s always gets stuck on the sub par athletes.

Both walters and mos have been working off 1 years for a while. No coach/gm on a team consistently trending soo sharply down and fell backwards into the last play off spot gets a 3 year deal in the cfl. Yeah, we are cooked if they don’t turn it around fast. This is brutal.