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Yeah, Montreal is stacked like we were in 19/21 for front office and staff candidates. I don't see Macioca going up to president and giving up the GM role either. And agree, I want no part of Thorpe. Ontario is really going to dictate our off-season imo. Depending on who takes what jobs. Mos and JY have serious ties to TO. I feel like Mos will be a top target for them. I think Thorpe and Chris Jones (shudder), will about round out who they look at. Then Hamilton has the GM opening from Ted. I think they will go after Walters, and Danny Mac I bet, will be deep in the fray again. Then ottawa will be settling its coaching staff under dinwiddie. I could see them targeting Jackson, Costello, and maybe even offering an AST HC title to JY. I also think we will likely be the last once again to have our positions in the front office settled.

They also had like 3 loses by 3 or less. Toronto capsized because for years they have been hammered away at in free agency, with out doing much to bring stars back. Just like us. That Dejon Allen trade, even though he was hurt a good chunk of this season, was still just awful. The chatfield trade was the only decent one pinball made, and he swung a bunch of trades this season/off-season. Pinball also couldn't manage to find the argos a RB worth a damn to replace AJ with. The dip in the argos production is squarely on pinball/muphy but they let Dinwiddie take the fall. No he's off to better things and the argos will probably be a basement dweller.

Bowman is a gooder for sure, so is corey irvin in montreal. In that case, I think the best "next guy up" in the legue is Byran Archambeault. I also think he is the best candidate to be a HC and work closely with the GM in the front office, and maybe do both jobs or be an AGM one day while also coaching. Lavergne in Montreal is also a strong future front office candidate. Idk if any of the montreal guys will want to leave, but they have a lot of guys hard stuck behind macioca and maas. Even AC could be an ast HC and OC if not a HC candidate.

I think the only chance to replace both and have a chance to be competitive just evaporated with ott getting dinwiddie. Firing both is rebuild mode not just this off season but next year. I think the best move is to replace one and do a strong re tool in the off season. I believe walters is the easiest to replace competently, but that mos is a larger piece of the problem. I also don’t expect either to go any where unless they decide to go. Toronto may well lure mos away. I don’t think we will make an active decision. I think what we do will be reactionary. Any one who seriously tables keeping hogan on as oc should be immediately escorted out by security. Id be interested in the young guys up front of the als organization for gm, for hc man that’s hard.

Yep. Imo if you brought in khari he’d be a position coach and support Jackson who’d be the oc. You could have both work with qbs, and khari also coach wrs while being offensive assistant. Qbs are underrated as wr coaches. They’re much better at helping wrs and qbs build chemistry and understand what the qb is looking for. Khari was also one of the last qbs to call his own plays, is much better coaching rpos and btl screen packages. Though I do worry if khari would be the worst guy to put with zach. Two guys who just wanna chuck bombs lol

We gave up a lot due to having no pressure. Tackling does need to improve for sure though. That’s all on leadership, discipline and accountability which no CO can install with a soft hc, and players like wj coasting. Especially owe this length of time.

I’ll pay for his ticket, first class, to toronto. Then he can find his way where ever he pleases.

We ran the 30 significantly less this last year than the previous year. Our front play was basically entirely different. The previous year we used a wide alignment hoping ends could win a battle. This year we used a tight alignment to close the middle. The delay blitz, is a play adjustment based on what the offence does. Lber has HCF zone, if the qb rolls or is flushed he becomes a rusher. The actual delayed blitz was extremely low use from JY, and the Lber blitz package was a tiny fraction of previous years. 2 years ago JY made a D with a new secondary that dominated opposition passing games. But teams eventually adjusted to the drop 9 rush 3. This year, we ran the drop 9 match zone much less that we ran last year. Calgary ran our previous years base D much more than we did. The secondary JY managed to cobble together could not work the switches and split field zones to save their life. So he again had to recreate the entire D, mid season. Tbh, what JY did the last 2 seasons is the most impressive thing I've ever seen from a DC up here. If we fix the ratio, roster the best players, and give him a DL who can get a farts worth of pressure next year that D will carry us. When you look at the stretch where wj wasn't able to accomplish any thing, and we ran 2 canadian DTs with korny on the ar playing primary reps its truly astounding how good the D ended up performing. That was the most pitiful DL I've ever seen pound for pound at any level. I've seen junior teams do better with no more than 1 guy over 200 lbs on their dl.

JY took a defensive unit with no ability to get pressure from the DL, or gap cancel, and gave up the fewest opposition points and tds in the league. Not to mention we ran away with the league lead on offensive give aways, leaving our D in a terrible field position field. They also played among the most minutes as our off was among the worst in 2nouts. We also gave up the fewest first downs. 2nd lowest passing yards against, lowest completion percentage against. 2nd best in terms of opposition QBR. We had the lowest of TDs per drive given up on D in the league by a large margin. Worst front 6 in the league by a mile, and he gave us one of the best defenses in the league. Not only that, he did the same thing last year. Both years, he had to wholly rebuild our secondary mid season. If we had a decent DL, and didn't use all our DIs on special teams, his D the last two years would've been 21 levels of dominant maybe even more so.

Yeah, JY and Costello are the only guys I really don't wanna lose.

I like Khari, and I think he was ahead of the curve on the offences he wanted to run. I view him the same way I look at Jackson. I'd want them to have either a sidekick with a ton of upside to groom or someone with tremendous experience who can help groom them. No CO by committee, but more like Hall and JY. , If we go from inside, I think it'll be Hall who gets the nod, if not maybe walters comes down and does both jobs. Or, it might be time for the regularly scheduled return of Lapo LOL

Or he takes JY and dinwiddie goes after brady to reunite with brown in ott.

Yeah, I mean, Etch had some pretty good years. I think his combination of age/health left him in a poor position to try and rebuild a team and get that crazy D of his working. Pretty disconnected from league trends too. Ugh, Hogan was the biggest reach. Maciocia had a similar leap, but he did much more time in the pros before going up to OC. I respect the balls of that guy and how he got into pro football with the als as well.

This makes the QB situation in the east even more interesting. Dinwiddie was tight with Arbuckle. I can't imagine he will want to bring him or the pest to Ott when they have brown. (Boy brown and Dinwiddie could be a deadly combo) And Idk if Arbuckle wants to go back to ott lol. The replacement in Toronto might choose the pest over Arbuckle. That is, of course, if Mos doesn't go and take Zach back to the market nearest his home LOL

With the restrictive nature of the front office cap, I think this is more of the future. AGM/Senior DPP assisting with in-season stuff and letting the coach run more of the team. I think ott has a lot of good pieces already, if Dinwiddie pilfers the argos like usually happens they should be in real good shape next year.

I think Mos has been working off a 1-year for a bit, though. It certainly isn't optimal if you need to change your HC/coaching staff. But if you don't even factor that in, it lets you adjust the HC pay around the coaching staffs each year.

That is possible, I don't think the term was ever announced.

Crazy indeed. I was just opining that we would offer him a similar role... I still can't believe the Argos messed up that badly. Their problems didn't occur because of Dinwiddie. Pinball kind a seems like a coach killer... I wonder if toronto makes the same offer to Mos, boy this off season could be real interesting. Right? They already have some of his old buddies too in Eiben, Marshall, and costanza.

How many Cos have the mafia canned? Hall stepped into a lower role for JY. Lapo left for a HC gig. Bellefeuille had his contract expire. Paul Boudreau had his deal expire with no extension offered. That one was more public, we aren't bringing you back. Then we canned Gary Etcheverry between seasons while under contract. Wow, that is depressing. Hogan is every bit as bad as Etch was here. He 100% deserves the axe. Boy, I can not fathom trying to run it back with Hogan...

He is big enough to run through arm tackles, with similar running power to Bell, Butler, and Rankin. It's not like Brady is out there trucking through guys every carry. especially not this year. As long as you are reasonably quick with decent balance and a basic level of running power, you can churn out yards. We could also bring in a 3rd back on a base deal who is more polished than MCI, with pile pushing power. If MCI takes a step forward, it isn't really needed. Or if Peterson does either tbh. If neither does, we can accomplish our goal with the run game. If you take out Peterson's longest run, he's still getting 4.4 yards per, and looking back at his game logs, only 29% of his carries went from less than 4 yards. Cooley was double that. Augustine had drastically worse splits here. We don't need 200+ carries out of him a year.

Same reason we don't blame Darrell Patterson for guys like Thomas and Korny. You can't take a sow's ear and make a silk purse. 100%

I don't think you can really do much evaluation in practice at all when it comes to non-vets. It's a little more than a warm-up before a game now. Rust isn't an issue, a chance to progress for sure that lots of guys need. Eli has played as much as a 6th OL can. I really think thats just a case of how we value the 6th ol and the love of kola for mos.

I don't think he is actually that versatile. At G, he isn't good enough in pass pro (next to Kola anyway), and he isn't able to play the edge other than on sets where we play heavy vs small. If he was more versatile, he'd be a starting Guard imo. If Eli isn't ever going to be more than a 6th ol, if he isn't good enough in pass pro to be a starting C, we just need to move on from him. The replacement level NI interior OL is a bunch of guys who can run block man to man, and don't have the feet to pass pro. Ethan Vibert is a super versatile guy. He's got a pro-ready body at G or C he's an above-average athlete, a little below Desjarlais' level, but well above average. He played multiple roles on a good line in the NCAA. He can play either G spot or C, and he excelled as a short-yardage/teams blocker. He's also got great football IQ, and that tough/nasty mind set and play style we love. If Eli isn't gonna be given a chance / be a legit threat to take the starting C job next year, he shouldn't be back. Because Vibert is ready for that 6th ol role and has the upside to be a starter in this league.

I don't blame him for kicking around and seeing if he can get on an NFL pr for the remainder of the NFL season. It makes a lot more sense than sitting as the 4th QB on our PR for part of the season. So long as he doesn't waste next years TC here trying to fish for another NFL TC invite.

It could, but we need to make room to make significant additions to DL, OL, WR, and QB2. Which are the 4 most expensive positions. The club really need to shed a lot of dead weight this off season. I could see some one giving Wheatfall a nice deal to see if he can step up into a no1 role with their system.