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Wallace or Vanterpool imo. I think Vanterpool at G is turnkey. He isn't Bond good currently, but he flashed that upside. He's solid at T, but not at the point where you feel comfortable with him as you 1a guy. Eli also could be one of those guys. Yeah I think Bryant to G would be huge for him and us, Vanterpool or neuf could be good at C. Heck wallace played a bit. I actually like Vibert a bunch too, but he needs to come in a take job. I don't expect any draft pick to do more than be the 6th man this year, and even that would be really hard with the depth guys we have. I wouldn't mind us looking to flip a pick for a player like we did with Lawson and Peterson. Especially for an OL.

Yeah, the recovery seems kind of perplexing. He's not enough of a focal point for a ton of questions to be coming in for him, but he seems to be lagging. Should have some kind of update by next week. Hopefully its minor. Yeah. I think the CFL GMs are much more inclined to make trades now than they were a few years ago. And Cap wise, you don't often risk much with an off season trade.

Even out side of FA, bc swung a deal last year involving an elite imp T. He said She said. I would not be surprised at all if Walters and Mos came to be at significant odds with the roster. Especially when you look at guys going from favorites to released/un signed like the marine.

Would love Drew back. Manu is struggling with rehab with the Lions. He tweaked his knee and was supposed to be out 4 weeks, which wasn't supposed to be season-threatening. But he's missed 4 games plus a bye week, and it sounds like he isn't close to ready to practice or even have an updated timeline to return. Hard to know what to make of his injury/return. It is the kind of thing that can expedite a guy's departure from a team/league. But facing tough injury rehab is as likely to push a guy out of pro football altogether. I hope for the best for him, he was just starting to get on down there.

Our need exceeds the availability. Imo, 1 stud imp or other wise. The best Ol you can get, FA or trade. Scheming and removing kola would help. That with an optimal ol line up would certainly make us respectable. But the journey to being a team that dominates in the trenches, is long.

Imo, kelly is bound for edmonton.

DL and WR, you can rebuild quickly with money. OL is as much alchemy as anything. You need the right guys in the right positions, and you need to give them time.

Thing is, we have an Ol by committe as it is. Vanterpool was likely our most outstanding ol, but in limited reps because we didn't want to flip the ratio at G. Lofton was penned in as a starter but missed much of the season after starting much of last year. Rando was our most reliable guy, and like booch said he's likely an all start level T on a decent unit. Neufs biggest issue is health, he will play hurt even when he really shouldn't. I really like Wallace and his upside, but he wasn't where we needed the G play to be this year. Bryant could do with a kick inside imo, and then we have the guy who isn't Kolafied to be on a CFL ar. Plus the super sub who won't be started at C but cant play G in Eli. We need to upgrade our OL play and not by a small margin, and we need to clear out the glutt of bodies. Which means we likely need to clear out 3 or more of those guys, with the young guys being the least desirable to get rid of. I think adding 1 impact starter, and moving guys around will go a very long way for us.

100%. It’s the split of blame, and who/if they can improve for next year.

I think mos in torontos targets would include kramdi, gauthier, hallett, cody, strev and maybe a vet or two we’d cut. I don’t think he’d go full hamilton on our cuts. I’d send him a very nice thank you note at the very least

it’s the cfl, you can very easily fail up into promotions, forget carrying over hc gigs. Every established hc in this league could keep coaching in this league till they died if they wanted. Plus, all coaches in pro sports and football have a half life. No matter how good they are. And some times a coach just needs a change of pace. Like when saban was with the dolphins. Football in general, remember that kelly just got another job running a whole league and that mack wasn’t out of work longer than he wanted to be. I mean how many times has chris jones returned now, and how long till he returns? Think she’d come back for a victory lap if that happened? bet she would lol. I love lapo as a football mind, color and panel guy. Though I do get a lil nauseous flash back every time he says “throw behind the line route” of nichols throwing it to harris on 2nd and 8 then him churning for 4 yards and us punting again. I don’t need to see that guy running an offence again in the cfl. There are young guys in this league and country who deserve a shot to move up. as well as players aging out ready to start taking low level roles. Look at what ssk has done with their young staff. I don’t think any one needs retreads.

I would LOoove to see mos give an honest assessment of what he needs done to the roster, from his coaching staff and what he needs to do better. But I think all we’d get publicly is a no changes needed we know what we need to fix and it’s easy. Like we did last year.

I also like the wall between gm/hc over all. But with the limitations of the cap and coaching roster, I think a lot of guys need to do double duty. I think having a hc / agm working with a gm / sdpp(or president) and using that pay to slot in more scouting especially with in the cfl offers a gigantic advantage. That is a damn good point! If we keep JY, maybe as an ast hc, I think he would be an upgrade to mos. With out walters, down grade imo. You know mos was the hc here before 2017 right? The 3 previous seasons to that even. 3 blown gcs, 2 years of heavy under performance due to the roster, Mos and our success are not mutually inclusive by any means. Why not give another strawman a chance?

Idk, I mean we could do worse. A lot worse actually. I’m not sure milanovich would be my primary target, but he’d be better than some junk retread.

I agree that if mos goes walters stays.

If mos is gone, it’s hard to predict if we go with a rehash or go to an up and comer. The options aren’t amazing, especially for established hcs. Any thing could happen.

I’m surprised hamilton wants mos. Are they gonna kick milanovich for mos and make him gm too? that’d be wild

Most of the posters here have been posting for 20 years. It’s safe to say virtually every person here knows exactly how bad things can be. Thing is, for several sweaty fans, being a team that continually chokes in the gc, is not significantly worse than a team that is young and just not good enough yet. This schism exists in all areas of sports, but it’s seldom talked about. Some people love to win, others hate to lose. That’s the major divide we’ve seen among bomber fans since we started gifting gc wins to teams starting mediocre back up qbs. We are basically at the very bottom of the roller coasters dive. we have the entire process left to get back to a respectable quality team. And we can’t even be sure that we will start that process this off season. If we bite the bullet and don’t wait to respond to other teams actions this off season, I think we can be a scrappy young team next year. If we stay a pile of the usual senior citizen suspects, hard to see us being more than crappy.

I wouldn't bring him back for half that to start. I'd only bring him back on a cheap deal with some incentives if he is the fake canadian on the roster and we rotate him heavily at end. Neuf hasn't been the same for a couple of years now. But none of our guards, since Desjarlais, have lived up to much of anything. If you get rid of Kola, I think you can bring back the rest of the ol, to compete with the young guys and bringing in 1 FA, then see how goodthe guys are when they aren't playing next to the worst linemen the league has seen in at least 10 years. This includes DL being forced into action on the OL. I would love to see a Bryant get a shot at G, Neuf at C, maybe lofton at G, and Vanterpool at T. If vanterpool doesn't crack it at T, he should be penned in at G next year. Once you subtract kola, a lot of guys will likely look a lot better. Sadly that is the state of the league these days. The good news is that NI crop, plus a depth FA or two, and a good draft will be very nice. I think you nailed it here. I would add Lofton back at vet min wouldn't be bad for camp. Shouldn't be at the expense of adding a high end ol this off season though. Glad some one recognized how important Cadwallader is on teams here, not just kick cover either, he is a teams stud on each unit. Does soo much more than just run and tackle. I like Gauthier, but Idk if he has another year in him at a high enough leve. It didn't seem like he had it this year either tbh. And we have a glut both at Lber and with NI lbers.

Just a note, lofton hasn’t figured in this last year. Randolph was the rt starter. Between rando and vanterpool I’m pretty happy with our imp ol talent. Gotta dig up new guys every year, and I think we need to be starting 3 imps minimum

Yeah I agree. It’s like we chose to blanket let guys go who hit free agency. And then I really don’t get why we haven’t committed to replacing any of the premium fa losses.

To be fair, yoshi has back slid into carrying far too much weight, couldn’t stay healthy and wasn’t fairing well when healthy here. He put in tremendous work to get back down in weight, get healthy and stayed pretty healthy. With lawler we did have to get away from 300k for a wr, but we didn’t do a near good enough job of replacing him. once the cap went up, we should’ve gone up to retain him though.

You have a good point, but veteran and great leader don’t go hand in hand. Big stan for instance, is known to be a pretty quiet guy. Yoshi was the primary leader of the team, offence, and ol. He was a massive culture setter. Sheed as well. Other guys like hansen, kongbo, biggie, and ba were the leaders on and off field. The fact we’ve seen zach soo frustrated with play call, time to relay plays in, wrs, etc as soon as the leaders left says zach is a stoic on field leader type and easy going guy off. but that balance depends on guys who will hold other accountable. Tldr, it takes multiple leaders of various types to make teams work together well. We have guys, but not the right ones in the right places imo.

He didn’t play D, he got in on teams. Didn’t build him up into any one. Doesn’t play any thing like biggie and never said he did or that he would be biggie. Can’t not play a guy and say he’s a miss. Also, I said one of many cases. Got a link to any thing saying he was a cancer? I’m betting the source will be “trust me bro”

we do though. Since mos kept wanting to start/roster the marine till walters cut him in the off season. The fact we dished out for jonathon jones then didn’t play him shows the disconnect as well. and who in the marriage is the one married to old guys that are his favourites. We can go back in time to when guys started then got cut that mos liked. It’s happened a lot, and mos is pretty straight forward in his opinion on guys like jake. Walter’s has kept bringing some back to keep mos happy. But has weeded out many over the years. The each have fault, and the real problem is their weaknesses scale multiplicatively for us in the worst direction. Yep. was down to miller, jackson, maksymic, and hogan for a good while.