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The only thing odd about Mos going up to HC, is that it is odd for teams Cos to go up to HC. It is far more common for Dc and OCS to do it. But Mos was considered a candidate to be an excellent DC as well. It was a big get for us; it wasn't any kind of shock. No one thought Mos was un-special. Mace was an excellent position coach and defensive assistant before moving up to DC. Just like JY. An expert at what he coached, with the fast track. It was still too soon for him, but it had worked it. It fails way, way more often than it works, though. For every mace, you have 10 DeVone Claybrooks. Mueller isn't in that mold either. No comparison between an excellent imp position player who played at the highest levels and coaches up from that position, to a career as a backup, who started coaching on the other side of the ball, then spent the majority of his time coaching RBs. Mueller has been a notably good coach for 1 year. Frankly, I wouldn't put Mueller on a list of the top 5 OCs in the league. little on a top the list of CO candidates to move up to HC. Wow, that is an odd offer from Hamilton. So they want to interview Danny and Mos for the same job? I can't see him wanting that.

It varies a lot, especially mid-season. A GM will have much less impact on the roster mid-season than in the off-season. I agree, Walters should have a short leash. Any of the mafia who return should. The house from 10 years ago HAS been cleaned. Only Mos and Walters remain. Everybody else is gone. The house from 4-5 years ago is sparse as well. What happened 3+ years ago, has no deciding factor in what happens next year. Shelf lifes are extremely short in sports and even more so in football. 5-10 years is ancient times at the speed football moves. Dave Ritchie's entire era here was part of 5 and 1/3 seasons. If you line up the competitive parts of the time here for Ritchie, Lapo, and Dunnigan you'd still be short of 10 years. The mafia having been here 10 years doesn't make it more likely that next year will be competitive, it makes it drastically more likely that things will fall apart more and it will end sooner. yeah, Mueller is not even close to stepping up to a HC job. Realistically no HC is coming in with a bunch of guys from out side his selection as a coach. Maybe 1 or 2 top of the line guys like JY and Marty, but thats it. I also don't see strevy as a RB coach, and I don't think Biggie would come back this soon to coach.

I've only listened to a bit of HI. I don't expect him to be BLM, but if he is more than Forde that will be great. How wild is that? Every year it's been zach playing in the GC and talk of when will BLM retire to be in the booth. Now BLM made it further than zach, looks a million times better, and zach is doing the analyst thing.

We should have a Poll on this thread. Personally, I think Mos goes. This has always been the job, especially working under pinball and with more control. We have all known that from the day he was hired. I think Walters stays, and Wade continues for the time being. I've never thought Wade would keep this role for 15+ years. Wade should maybe make a call to Buono for his legendary referral services... He's been involved in probably half of the franchise turn overs since he retired.

So Zach is going to work the GC as an analyst. That is kind of surprising to me. He's never been the most loquacious guy. He's Forde esq and maybe worse. But who knows perhaps he will be better when removed from the game played that day.

I feel like we have seen cracks in the foundation of the Mos-Walters relationship at times. It's been a bit scarce, but the difference between their year ending and pre season interviews spoke volumes as well as a few moves we've made. That is a great quote. And Ted was all that and more. It does say something that he didn't feel that would be the case here without Ted ,though. To me, that sounds like between the lines he doesn't think we'd do what ever it takes to win, we didn't have that front office star aside from Ted, or that mentor type. Which does make sense knowing the nature of walters and ted. Makes me feel all the more for Penn too.

Wallace or Vanterpool imo. I think Vanterpool at G is turnkey. He isn't Bond good currently, but he flashed that upside. He's solid at T, but not at the point where you feel comfortable with him as you 1a guy. Eli also could be one of those guys. Yeah I think Bryant to G would be huge for him and us, Vanterpool or neuf could be good at C. Heck wallace played a bit. I actually like Vibert a bunch too, but he needs to come in a take job. I don't expect any draft pick to do more than be the 6th man this year, and even that would be really hard with the depth guys we have. I wouldn't mind us looking to flip a pick for a player like we did with Lawson and Peterson. Especially for an OL.

Yeah, the recovery seems kind of perplexing. He's not enough of a focal point for a ton of questions to be coming in for him, but he seems to be lagging. Should have some kind of update by next week. Hopefully its minor. Yeah. I think the CFL GMs are much more inclined to make trades now than they were a few years ago. And Cap wise, you don't often risk much with an off season trade.

Even out side of FA, bc swung a deal last year involving an elite imp T. He said She said. I would not be surprised at all if Walters and Mos came to be at significant odds with the roster. Especially when you look at guys going from favorites to released/un signed like the marine.

Would love Drew back. Manu is struggling with rehab with the Lions. He tweaked his knee and was supposed to be out 4 weeks, which wasn't supposed to be season-threatening. But he's missed 4 games plus a bye week, and it sounds like he isn't close to ready to practice or even have an updated timeline to return. Hard to know what to make of his injury/return. It is the kind of thing that can expedite a guy's departure from a team/league. But facing tough injury rehab is as likely to push a guy out of pro football altogether. I hope for the best for him, he was just starting to get on down there.

Our need exceeds the availability. Imo, 1 stud imp or other wise. The best Ol you can get, FA or trade. Scheming and removing kola would help. That with an optimal ol line up would certainly make us respectable. But the journey to being a team that dominates in the trenches, is long.

Imo, kelly is bound for edmonton.

DL and WR, you can rebuild quickly with money. OL is as much alchemy as anything. You need the right guys in the right positions, and you need to give them time.

Thing is, we have an Ol by committe as it is. Vanterpool was likely our most outstanding ol, but in limited reps because we didn't want to flip the ratio at G. Lofton was penned in as a starter but missed much of the season after starting much of last year. Rando was our most reliable guy, and like booch said he's likely an all start level T on a decent unit. Neufs biggest issue is health, he will play hurt even when he really shouldn't. I really like Wallace and his upside, but he wasn't where we needed the G play to be this year. Bryant could do with a kick inside imo, and then we have the guy who isn't Kolafied to be on a CFL ar. Plus the super sub who won't be started at C but cant play G in Eli. We need to upgrade our OL play and not by a small margin, and we need to clear out the glutt of bodies. Which means we likely need to clear out 3 or more of those guys, with the young guys being the least desirable to get rid of. I think adding 1 impact starter, and moving guys around will go a very long way for us.

100%. It’s the split of blame, and who/if they can improve for next year.

I think mos in torontos targets would include kramdi, gauthier, hallett, cody, strev and maybe a vet or two we’d cut. I don’t think he’d go full hamilton on our cuts. I’d send him a very nice thank you note at the very least

it’s the cfl, you can very easily fail up into promotions, forget carrying over hc gigs. Every established hc in this league could keep coaching in this league till they died if they wanted. Plus, all coaches in pro sports and football have a half life. No matter how good they are. And some times a coach just needs a change of pace. Like when saban was with the dolphins. Football in general, remember that kelly just got another job running a whole league and that mack wasn’t out of work longer than he wanted to be. I mean how many times has chris jones returned now, and how long till he returns? Think she’d come back for a victory lap if that happened? bet she would lol. I love lapo as a football mind, color and panel guy. Though I do get a lil nauseous flash back every time he says “throw behind the line route” of nichols throwing it to harris on 2nd and 8 then him churning for 4 yards and us punting again. I don’t need to see that guy running an offence again in the cfl. There are young guys in this league and country who deserve a shot to move up. as well as players aging out ready to start taking low level roles. Look at what ssk has done with their young staff. I don’t think any one needs retreads.

I would LOoove to see mos give an honest assessment of what he needs done to the roster, from his coaching staff and what he needs to do better. But I think all we’d get publicly is a no changes needed we know what we need to fix and it’s easy. Like we did last year.

I also like the wall between gm/hc over all. But with the limitations of the cap and coaching roster, I think a lot of guys need to do double duty. I think having a hc / agm working with a gm / sdpp(or president) and using that pay to slot in more scouting especially with in the cfl offers a gigantic advantage. That is a damn good point! If we keep JY, maybe as an ast hc, I think he would be an upgrade to mos. With out walters, down grade imo. You know mos was the hc here before 2017 right? The 3 previous seasons to that even. 3 blown gcs, 2 years of heavy under performance due to the roster, Mos and our success are not mutually inclusive by any means. Why not give another strawman a chance?

Idk, I mean we could do worse. A lot worse actually. I’m not sure milanovich would be my primary target, but he’d be better than some junk retread.

I agree that if mos goes walters stays.

If mos is gone, it’s hard to predict if we go with a rehash or go to an up and comer. The options aren’t amazing, especially for established hcs. Any thing could happen.

I’m surprised hamilton wants mos. Are they gonna kick milanovich for mos and make him gm too? that’d be wild

Most of the posters here have been posting for 20 years. It’s safe to say virtually every person here knows exactly how bad things can be. Thing is, for several sweaty fans, being a team that continually chokes in the gc, is not significantly worse than a team that is young and just not good enough yet. This schism exists in all areas of sports, but it’s seldom talked about. Some people love to win, others hate to lose. That’s the major divide we’ve seen among bomber fans since we started gifting gc wins to teams starting mediocre back up qbs. We are basically at the very bottom of the roller coasters dive. we have the entire process left to get back to a respectable quality team. And we can’t even be sure that we will start that process this off season. If we bite the bullet and don’t wait to respond to other teams actions this off season, I think we can be a scrappy young team next year. If we stay a pile of the usual senior citizen suspects, hard to see us being more than crappy.

I wouldn't bring him back for half that to start. I'd only bring him back on a cheap deal with some incentives if he is the fake canadian on the roster and we rotate him heavily at end. Neuf hasn't been the same for a couple of years now. But none of our guards, since Desjarlais, have lived up to much of anything. If you get rid of Kola, I think you can bring back the rest of the ol, to compete with the young guys and bringing in 1 FA, then see how goodthe guys are when they aren't playing next to the worst linemen the league has seen in at least 10 years. This includes DL being forced into action on the OL. I would love to see a Bryant get a shot at G, Neuf at C, maybe lofton at G, and Vanterpool at T. If vanterpool doesn't crack it at T, he should be penned in at G next year. Once you subtract kola, a lot of guys will likely look a lot better. Sadly that is the state of the league these days. The good news is that NI crop, plus a depth FA or two, and a good draft will be very nice. I think you nailed it here. I would add Lofton back at vet min wouldn't be bad for camp. Shouldn't be at the expense of adding a high end ol this off season though. Glad some one recognized how important Cadwallader is on teams here, not just kick cover either, he is a teams stud on each unit. Does soo much more than just run and tackle. I like Gauthier, but Idk if he has another year in him at a high enough leve. It didn't seem like he had it this year either tbh. And we have a glut both at Lber and with NI lbers.