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Nice that’s awesome. Yeah it’s no joke down there. I’ve seen a bunch of kids teen to 20 ish and the knowledge gap is heart breaking. Even young teens and single digit aged kids knowing and doing some crazy stuff just to live. Up in the middle of the night to walk to soup kitchen the safe way to be in line for when it opens then walk back to bring food home for family. But then don’t have basic understandings of soo many things even up out of the teens. Reading, normal life and family relation stuff. Just gutting. Malcolm gladwell has a couple books that goes into various factors in poor areas. ( tipping point/outliers/ why I hate the Ivy League) Even for the athletic stars and brilliant minds it’s soo hard for those kids to break free. Juco, the fledgling leagues down south and the cfl have done soo much to change soo many guys lives. If any thing we need a better vacuum to pull those kids up. I appreciate every one who works to lift those kids up get them into juco, college, Europe etc. People like to poop on football programs, and how much money their programs draw. But those programs have all saved countless kids lives and provided them escape from various hellscapes.

Damn that’s wild. Ott has always had pretty active game day fans but that’s some thing else. Yeah it is, no joke in a lot of places. Going to a couple restaurants between towns with my co worker from nc and I got referred to as a northerner a bunch of times and he’d always just be like oh he’s Canadian. It’s nutty. I know plenty of guys are numb to it. Others have a us vs them thing with in their own team and fan base. At the same time that area has seen a big change in the diversity of coaches and modernization of leadership styles. I can’t imagine what it was like in the era of guys like Jim brown. Great sharing, thanks guys I love this stuff.

Yeah man. I wouldn’t be comfortable if my kid went to school down there. I felt like in Alabama things were kind of hidden in a quiet segregation. In Mississippi, it was soo openly divided. It was soo uncomfortable. I have friends and co workers in the Carolina’s and Mississippi is a culture shock for them. I’ve seen some really really bad places, but miss sticks with me on how comfortable, and accepted it is. To quantify it, I do generally like the edges of the south. The food and hospitality is tremendous and it reminds me a lot of here culturally for the most part. How’d she do in college vball? Did she still play down south?

I’d Love to see an etymology of goof like that. The culture shock in places like the Deep South, and places like oak town is insane. Really makes you think about what some of these kids go through coming up here. I went through the south slowly, and I was stunned at each point how much more intense it got. I thought nc was deep in it, till I got to alabama and Mississippi.

He was a high level offensive assistant as well under strict controlling offensive coach. Which is a strange position but still a great jump. A lot of hc jobs tend to revolve around offensive minds over any others. QBc to hc is probably the most logical jump though a big one.

For real though, I would not suggest calling any stranger a goof. In certain Prison to street, outlaw, and service circles people get maimed and killed over that. Not joke. In those circles goof is the worst thing you can call some one. Can’t come soon enough.

Really is. Plus the combine seems to have a strong impact on our opinion of guys. We love the high upside guys with the athleticism to start in the pros. Yeah it’s gonna be an odd draft. Probably won’t be a lot of futures picks at ol. Which I think bodes well for us actually. We could use a guy or two who sits on our pr and who we mold into a system fit. Or maybe a 6th ol, maybe an undersized centre to develop. It seems like skill positions and dl talent is the new go to in the draft. It’s a far cry from the days of ol and WRs and catch then fall down.

Even going sts co to hc is a rare jump. I could see going qb coach to hc being more common than skipping positional coach, or going teams co to hc. Now that I’m thinking about it, was he basically a lber coach in his last season of play like the goat? Might be a Q for bluto.

Don't think we can have a hot clue until after the combine. I think we will continue to target OL, DL, and DB in particular. And I could see us bringing in another NI RB into camp on a rookie deal.

Greg quick, and James Stanley filled the lber coach role in all but mos last year with the Argos. The last year they didn’t have one and Chris jones got ast hc duties on top of dc. I’d say it’s very likely he was effectively the lber coach that last year. But not his first 3.

It is entirely true that mos handed off credit as fast as any one ever. Guy doesn’t have a selfish bone in his body. He did get all the praise and credit heaped on him. As he does and will the blame. Same with zach and every starting qb ever. That’s the job.

Yuuppp. I could see us flipping to ni S for flexibility as well. Does Parker count as eligible for naturalized American status? He, vaughters or wj would let us use a part time ni on D.

Yeah benefits should be a given. I think the front office cap is hurting the league more than it’s helping. Both in terms of coaching and league scouting.

Honestly, I don’t know who that guy would be. The brain drain is soo intense with multiple levels now. Beau Baldwin is the big exception but he is hard stuck in Calgary.

Costello has seen a massive revolving door of Canadians to work with. I don’t think he gets much say. it’s an interesting point to consider. Imo, clearly Walters has stepped in at times. Jackson not coming back, and biggie as well. If it was up to mos I think both would still be here and penciled on the ar. I think the default is mos having final say over who plays and walters on who comes/goes. I’m sure every one has some manner of input, but I think that’s how it boils down.

Did you read the article? He’s clearly happy to be a pro usports coach for ever. And thats partly because of the broken nature of the system in the cfl. But he also talks about loving working with that age range the most. Which is the point of the article and discussion. The cfl indoctrinates position coaches and turns them into clones of their mentors. We don’t see innovation and haven’t in ages. 20 years ago we were ahead of the nfl in innovation, and ahead of most d1 schools. Now we are behind upper tier hs in the us.

Yeah it’s sad we haven’t actively sought to improve c or the ol yet. I hope we do, honestly we could dig up an imp C that would be a big upgrade very easily. We could still get an ni upgrade possibly or give Eli a chance. Heck we could have Wallace work snaps in camp and pre season like Dobson did last year. Im hoping for the best preparing for the worst. watching kola is really staggering. I don’t know who is worse between Jake or kola, I’d rather eat the loss of a bad dt than C though. Thomas can barely get to the line from off the line, kola turns over faster than a tackle vs a wide wide 5 speed rush. I think if people saw a clip compiling the highlights week after week it would open a lot of eyes.

As a position coach, which tbh isn’t a good gig. It’s considerably worse than being a co down south or hc in usports. Hogan is an aberration, but he’s also a lapo/buck guy with out a lot of grooming else where. And he’s about as fresh blood as any oc in the league.

https://3downnation.com/2025/02/23/theres-a-lack-of-new-blood-in-the-cfl-wilfrid-lauriers-michael-faulds-not-interested-in-pro-job/ Wl’s coach speaks out about the cfls habit of recycling over giving new people and ideas a chance. It sounds like he isn’t interested in going from usports hc to positional coach which is understandable. The league isn’t doing a good job or even any kind of job developing coaching pipelines any more. Canadian or American. It’s pretty much all former CFL players interning under the old guard of coaching lineages then moving up and repeating the same old stuff. I feel like the opportunity for the first team to break the mold and same old rhythm is huge. And likely leads to a resurgence of innovation and creativity in the league. I also don’t think the league can grow much more doing the same old safe stuff.

Except when he stepped in at C in the first place before kola. Eli hasn’t gotten owned like kola either. The vast majority of snaps end with kola facing the wrong damn end zone. If he played guard with a dt on him most every snap he probably gives up double digit sacks, in a single game. Hes the worst 1on1 blocker I’ve ever seen above the high school level.

Keeping kola and letting couture walk was a big mistake. Should’ve rolled with couture and Eli. We also had the young depth to go with Eli and pivot if things don’t work. We love to settle for ni mediocrity.

It’s true. We need to do a better job of retaining young Canadian talent and ol talent. But we also can’t chase the wrong guys because we let the right guys go. I think Dobson hit a hard plateau last year. He might bust it this year, if he doesn’t I don’t know that he will. I don’t think Wallace needs to progress much from last year to be better than Dobson, with significantly more upside. I think Wallace has potential to be a rt in the cfl actually with a bit more weight loss.

I was the biggest Dobson booster around. I have a great deal of belief still in his talent and upside. No way in hell would I pay him elite money. He isn’t that guy. He struggled as every one did early, and solidified him self really well. He wasn’t consistent enough in pass protection, occasionally getting put on skates. He didn’t step up to compensate for the deficiencies around him or make the guys beside him better. And he didn’t do a good job of getting off/switching and getting to the second level. To pay a guard elite money they have to atleast flash one or more of those 3. Other wise, it’s honestly too easy to replace a Canadian guard who just gets in the way of the D. Wallace flashed the ability to get to the second level really well, as well as being able to help guys by chipping their man and hand checking guys to funnel them to the rt. He didn’t even play that much and as a rookie flashed more than Dobson has in all his time here. if Dobson didn’t want elite money, ideally you put Neuf on the bench as the 6th guy and run Dobson eli Wallace. Id rather us flip a G to imp than pay top dollar to Dobson. Desjarlais was worth the giant pay day, but that’s still a hard guy to work around cap wise.

Im pretty sure kolo is a top 25 centre in the league. Might not be top 20 though.

Wilson is a boat anchor too. I meant on a game day roster but for camp yeah Wilson first. yeah they were bad. But he wasn’t the reason why or a big problem piece. Tjones was bad on pass cover in all of his starts.