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If a star player on this team had any kind of injury scare no matter how minor they'd shut em down for the day in camp. I hope that's all it is. The fact we didn't hear he was holding his knee and got carted off is good news I imagine.

Nailed it. But some people fear the unknown soo much they'd rather go with what they know Won't work rather than risk trying some thing different. The same idea as signing Reggie slack again and passing on ac. You'd be surprised how many pro qbs aren't mentally sound. I'd be surprised if you found one hof qb that wasn't nuts. It takes a considerable amount of crazy to do what they do. He was last year. Arbuckle is still not a well known commodity he couldn't be better this year. When he's been in its because he's had to be. Because he had to be rostered to be our back up rb. He's by no means a guy who earns a spot with his teams play. His catching and blocking are well below par for a starting pro football rb. We aren't lucky to have him. He was a multi team cast off. To say we are lucky to have a guy that sat on the fa list for an extended period as a ni is laughable. It's fine to like the kool-aid. But don't expect every one to believe it's wine. 😄

Also great to see the draft picks and ni rbs shining on teams. A big part of this camp is going to be replenishing our ni teams depth. We have consistently filled holes at db and found great guys to fit in. That front isn't going to give qbs a lot of time either. I think ol will be a great battle too. We have a bunch of young ni with a camp and some game reps under their belt and not a whole lot of service time dividing two of the starters and a back up or two. Gonna be some tough decisions at some point. Can only hide guys soo long.

A lot of db vs wr drills this year. Wish they had these streamed in part on line. No injuries is big. With Griffiths calling it quits I wonder if we are in the market for an ni dt.

Since the rock and the xfl said the same and they have nothing to show for their time owning the xfl I tend to believe it. The xfl isn't going to waste their credibility to hoodwink their own fans for the benefit of the cfl.

And when the xfl folds for the 4th time after again not finishing a season then what. I'm not sure how tsn would re act. What are they gonna fill all the missing time slots with? They gonna air golf games played by nhlers in their off season? I wonder if at some point the league is better off cutting out the dead weight of a franchise like the argos and building around strengths. This young generation in the gta is never coming over to the cfl. The league has to make in roads in its strong markets with a younger audience. We've spent the last decade trying to prop up and fix broken Franchises and its brought the league to its knees. Maybe it's time to stop hanging around with an ex hoping she will take us back. That drill in riderville is beyond idiotic. I hope we are being smarter than that.

It can be a lot of things for sure. I have never heard or seen 4 in one day though. Not in any size camp. It could be some thing with causation too. Time will really tell. Its going to be really interesting to see how a lot of vets play and come to camp across the league. I missed most of my soph year and was out of cleats and didnt train with cleats on in the off season, as soon as I put them on and made a cut I tweaked my knee. I also injured my calf once post 30 and have had calf, high ankle, plantar problems a plenty since then.

Thats insane. I wonder if thatll be the mark of out of shape guys in TC. I cant imagine that all 4 are coincidence.

Great teams are great because of their culture. Top to bottom I dont worry about our guys coming into camp soft and out of shape. If we missed a season under Coach Ritchie, boy itd be atleast another lost season getting guys back into shape.

If davis was cut tomorrow, his career would be over. I wouldnt trade mcguire for any of those back ups. Experience is not a deciding factor, when you are talking about 1-2 games worth of reps for most of those guys. 5 guys whose career totals are 19 tds, and 35 picks and out side of DD like 2-3 starts. .5 to .75 of a start average between the 4 does not make 1 experienced back up qb.

I wish I could bet on a qb shoot out between you and fajardo . I would take MBT over Vaj, and between he and Fajardo would depend on interviews. I think very highly of MBTs ability to sling it, and Fajardos ability to create. Idk if MBT has the ability to run an offense like we had last year, or any strict system. And thatd be the big difference for him. If he can run a system and not just run and shoot play ground style I think hes a guy you can win with. We dont see it as often up here, but down south you see guys semi frequently who are like that. Its the football equivalent of a AAAA player. MBT might be that, but thats his basement. He might not be a guy who can improve and learn, or he might be a guy who under a really good OC and team can turn into a star. Producing on a bad team has a lot of negative connotations. "Garbage time" etc. But If youre a QB on a dog of a team where guys coast and play for them self, where you dont have an OL or a run game, or a strong coach and system. and you manage to put up good numbers you can play. Imagine what nichols wouldve done in his career here if he had to argos OL, or running game. Or khari or any other qb. The argos in 19 won 4 games, the 2000 bombers won 7. One qb had 4142 yards, on 51% 31tds vs 23 picks in 13 starts. The other qb had 4024 yards on 67.9% 26tds vs 13ints also in 13 starts. The "other" qb, also didnt have an army of future HoFers on his roster. That 2000 team also lost in OT to the stamps, and put up 49 but lost by 2 to edm under bells starts.

We've had lot of qbs who couldn't do Jack squat down any amount. He also strangled a win out of us. He's far superior to Fajardo as a drop back passer. If you watch him for a guy who has an insane lack of reps for his age he can sling it. Our qbs last year wouldn't have don't more with the Toronto offense. Agree. But I am pretty high on Mcguire. I really wish we had pre season games.

Wow that'd be brutal for them.

Riders prized off season get lber larry Dean tore his Achilles today. Probably done for the year. Not easy to come back from at 32 either.

The hypocrisy of those guys talking about us needing to pony up when they dropped out of the running to show cfl games after like one season 20 years ago makes me really angry. How bout they put in a bid and push what tsn pays. Sn is all talk no quality content and does the minimum to support any sport and league.

Half their cfl bets prolly come from rider fans. That happens real fast with next big qbs.

Im actually pretty comfy with that group of WRs going into a 2nd year together. I think bailey and especially lawler are poised for monster seasons. I also love the depth on the DL and the versatility to rotate guys kongbo, and a couple really good depth imps.

Hes a talented guy with a knack for making plays out of nothing. I dont think hes as good as early casey printers was and I dont think he would end up as bad as late casey printers. Mr, BLM and harris are still the top tier of cfl QBs. They are more human and closer to the rest of the pack then ever before. And thats just from 2019, not including the missed season. But these are the guys who are proven commodities and who you can expect will produce at a high level. Dane evans, Fajardo, Vaj and MBT are all pretty even imo. I know a lot of people crap on MBT for putting up stats on a bad team, but we've never seen our QBs put up season numbers like his on any of our bad teams. Evans got rocked in the grey cup but for my money was the best of the 3 in the regular season. And Fajardo made a lot happen last year in his first year starting but didnt show a lot of projectability. Vaj showed more projectability than mbt or fajardo but also was the most unpredictable, and inconsistent. These guys come with moderate amounts of risk. They may produce, they may elevate to the next level, or they may bust out. Its likely imo that atleast 2 of these guys are busts this year. Theyre pick ems. Nichols, Masoli, Collaros, are the high risk high reward guys. Any of these 3 if healthy and insulated can lead a team to a deep play off run. But failing that they likely dont succeed. Arbuckle, Streveler and Franklin. Both these guys are players teams though could take over the lead of a team and step up to a mid and top tier qb. Franklin hasnt done it, and arbuckle is hurt more than most from the missed year. The will they wont they prospects who are running low on days as the every down qb with out producing. They will have a decent amount of time left on their run as a no2 qb in the worst case, but teams arent going to want to gamble next year on them as a starter if they dont prove to be 2nd tier qbs this year. Bottom tier we have the jennings, schlitz, Kilgore, davis, etc. These are back ups who are getting to the fringe of staying in the league. Guys like Mcguire have a longer leash then bottom tier guys, but mostly with their own teams. They may bounce between PR and AR or scratch. They arent guys you want to bet on, but that you hope develop into those guys. Ideally you would have a top tier guy and a back up thats tier 2-3. With a Mcguire type on the PR. But thats not the case for really any team. Every team is 1 hit away from trouble. And 2 hits away from a high draft pick. I consider the riders to be in a near identical situation to us QB wise. Collaros collapsing isnt more or less likely than Fajardo being figured out. But age and athleticism is nice to have. Personally I think Collaros is well poised to play his best ball. Career wise what happened for him after the chain of injuries and his cryptic off season talk with the riders is the best case scenario. Plus having a full year off to be as healthy as possible. The cats and argos are well insulated at QB, but dont have stars. The leos, elk, and stamps have legit mop guys but dont have a great no2. The rest of the league is even imo.

Both those guys can piss off. I think some Crow should be on the plate for these troll media types who were certain it was a merger with the cfl losing this or that. Maybe the best part of the year is that xfl3.0 the great nothing burger is over and football is about to begin. Has the xfl 3.0 folded yet?

Jennings is probably half the leagues worst case scenario right now. Not bringing him in for camp makes me think the chances of us pulling the trigger on him are very low.

At the same time the time off for vets and short intense season is going to be hell to try to stay healthy through and play at a high level. Rookies who haven't missed a big chunk of time can be a critical tool. The team that balances these factors is most likely to succeed.

Tcf can be useful as fall guys to let vets go hard and take less reps but ya this team in this situation doesn't really make sense. You don't see a lot of block shedding in hs. Short of some really good prep school vs a state contender which doesn't happen as much out side play offs. But ya he doesn't seem to have jets.

Super versatile with good athleticism. I constantly expected him to get burned when he was back at S but he held his own. Hard to imagine our front performing better than last year or adding another rotational guy while kongbo will need more snaps. But these are great problems to have.

Keep in mind that those are high-school clips for Thomas. For that level his read and discipline is tremendous. He also shows excellent explosive strength tackling. He instantly takes a lot of ball carriers from vertical to horizontal. With 2 years worth of rookie imp recruitment I very much doubt any one brought in late for camp will be tcf. I would strongly suspect these guys are being brought in for their polish and adaptive speed to the cfl game. Not monster athletes who have superstar potential.

Thats freaking awesome. SKy is the limit for a guy like him.