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Except when he stepped in at C in the first place before kola. Eli hasn’t gotten owned like kola either. The vast majority of snaps end with kola facing the wrong damn end zone. If he played guard with a dt on him most every snap he probably gives up double digit sacks, in a single game. Hes the worst 1on1 blocker I’ve ever seen above the high school level.

Keeping kola and letting couture walk was a big mistake. Should’ve rolled with couture and Eli. We also had the young depth to go with Eli and pivot if things don’t work. We love to settle for ni mediocrity.

It’s true. We need to do a better job of retaining young Canadian talent and ol talent. But we also can’t chase the wrong guys because we let the right guys go. I think Dobson hit a hard plateau last year. He might bust it this year, if he doesn’t I don’t know that he will. I don’t think Wallace needs to progress much from last year to be better than Dobson, with significantly more upside. I think Wallace has potential to be a rt in the cfl actually with a bit more weight loss.

I was the biggest Dobson booster around. I have a great deal of belief still in his talent and upside. No way in hell would I pay him elite money. He isn’t that guy. He struggled as every one did early, and solidified him self really well. He wasn’t consistent enough in pass protection, occasionally getting put on skates. He didn’t step up to compensate for the deficiencies around him or make the guys beside him better. And he didn’t do a good job of getting off/switching and getting to the second level. To pay a guard elite money they have to atleast flash one or more of those 3. Other wise, it’s honestly too easy to replace a Canadian guard who just gets in the way of the D. Wallace flashed the ability to get to the second level really well, as well as being able to help guys by chipping their man and hand checking guys to funnel them to the rt. He didn’t even play that much and as a rookie flashed more than Dobson has in all his time here. if Dobson didn’t want elite money, ideally you put Neuf on the bench as the 6th guy and run Dobson eli Wallace. Id rather us flip a G to imp than pay top dollar to Dobson. Desjarlais was worth the giant pay day, but that’s still a hard guy to work around cap wise.

Im pretty sure kolo is a top 25 centre in the league. Might not be top 20 though.

Wilson is a boat anchor too. I meant on a game day roster but for camp yeah Wilson first. yeah they were bad. But he wasn’t the reason why or a big problem piece. Tjones was bad on pass cover in all of his starts.

I don’t even think that it’s about how they view quality. I don’t think they value the C doing much more than snapping. It’s a role position for them. The value they put on 6th, 7th ol and fb is nutty as well. it’s been his whole career, it’s just become obvious to the point that teams have game planned to get to zach through him for two years now. But to be fair, basically every plan of attack worked against our ol most of last year.

I’d take him over t jones. Such a strange move. Imagine giving up on your mor candidate lber on a rookie deal for awe.

This.

Maybe 2099 gc champs

Our home jerseys are gonna be their 3rds this year. What are we gonna call them now? Winnipeg practice cats. Tiger bombs? Steeltown baby bombers? Oskee mini peg? Black and old gold?

Nah. He become solid-serviceable. Still back end of the roster guy at best.

Very much so. And at this point we have a near un paralleled amount of parity in QBs both starting and back ups league wide. Basically every team has a starting QB they've chosen and a very solid qb2 with a good resume who can reasonably play if/when forced into action. The problem as I see it, is only bad teams move on to young qbs. League-wide teams wait till the wheels fall off their franchise to make QB changes to give developing guys a chance. But then those guys get run over constantly playing on bad teams. A few years ago I never would've thought we'd still see soo many old starters leading teams still, or with primary back up roles. I bet the average age league wide of starting QBs out of camp will be 33+. Bc, moved on to rourke not to develop but because they thought he would instantly be better than Vaj. And he wasn't. Montreal moved on to davis this off season, and I commend them for that. Though they have done little else this off season and it makes that move look like a cost cutting move.

Yep. It does seem like they are starting to get a better-surrounding cast, but they are in dire need of fresh blood at QB. To be fair, we are and so is 3/4 of the league. The team that wins the QB arms race with youth is going to be the next force in this league for years to come.

I agree, he certainly was good not great. I think he's still in the matt nichols tier that way. He's a better version who won, but not significantly. I think he was broken before age by beatings he took in places like edmonton as well. Yeah, old age QBs are seldom a good idea. Wrong side of 35 with a QB is a bad gamble. It might work out, it might not. It might be the only or best option a team has. But I think it is always a bad gamble to take.

Yep. He is the MOP when it comes to padding. Up top with mbt, and last years BLM.

To be fair, MBT was among the league leaders in passing till he was yoinked as well. In 22 he creamed zach in yards, and dane evans was 4th a head of rourke. I think the argument would be that last year isn't a reflection of what zach is or can do. I fully expect zach to outperform his play from last year. But I'm not sure he will physically hold up. I think he will either be a strong MOP candidate, or will be injured and replaced mid season ish.

I do agree, this is supposed to be a deep cfl draft, though I don't think it's super deep at OL. But if we can get another back up and maybe another lotto ticket that'd be pretty good. We should be looking to add one way or another still though. Dt, lawson is the answer if he stays healthy and we bench jake for him. Lawson and woods as starting DTs is tremendous. We need Pass rushing depth though. Another 3 tech, and maybe 2 guys who can rush off the edge.

Eh improved at C gotten worse at T. And that's before mcewen has to gel with their current guys.

They did, but before fa right. And tbh one was a good price that off set the other who was expensive. It’s not about top pay, it’s about getting those top guys. We paid top dollar to guys to prevent free agency any way. We’ve seen plenty of strong value at dl in fa the last few years.

Yeah. I get that we don't want to chase every players highest potential raise. But we've really shied away as soon as any top level player his free agency. At some point you gotta win more of those battles, and you need to drive up other teams FA prices as well. You have to be a destination for star players. If you aren't a destination you'll never be more than a launch pad.

He was here iirc. He was late to arrive from an NFL camp, but he was on our AR for a good chunk of 22, like 2/3rds of the games. He played a lot of teams and rotated some on D. He started the last game or two and played really well. Yeah it does feel like a wasted pick. It is kind of tough for us to have a Canadian for basically 1.5 seasons out of the draft. I like dobson, but I wouldn't have given him the star payment for a level he hasn't reached yet either. Especially with wallace waiting. But the OL pipeline is a whole lot dried than it has been at any point before.

I think with the cfl you always have guys like that. Wouldn’t be singleton. But stiggers, Alford, Isiah adams, Sydney brown, maybe good-jones, or maybe some one whose rights are owned by another team is cut and we trade for them. Like Doug brown back in the day.

Yeah I get that. I think we are a couple more solid vets and a break through player or two away from genius off season or couple injuries/crash n burns away from completely bungled. I like the idea of how we are doing this year. I think we should’ve done It sooner, and need more volume still to make it work. I think the draft will be where we can really start to dial in how good this off season was. If we draft again like last year it’s gonna help a lot.

It’s true. But their short fall isn’t due to diminishing by way of adding less talent then they lose each year. Toronto is the model every one wants. Calgary before them. But we are not willing to dump vets at their peak. We want to dump em when they’ve got nothing left or get paid.