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This. Id say lafrance is more a balanced offensive back, augustin the better runner, and coombs is a pass catching wing back who runs some. yes each group has some nuance and time to gel needed, but our run game is pretty vanilla for the rb as well. We dont do a lot of stretch, power toss/sweep, shovel etc. Its the same looks in the same gaps. Vision is tough to quantify, you can see runners that have it and ones that dont. And ive never seen a pro back that didnt have it, find it. I would be fascinated to find out how one did if they did though. That wasnt reading the line with harris, the lack of continuity and experience left him with contact in the back field and making plays to get 3 yard gains instead of losing 3. Traditionally rbs are expected to not be taken down by the first guy, Be it in the back field or down field. After that you cant expect a chain of jukes or trucks, but the first arm cant be what stops you. You can do it with quickness, moves, cuts, speed, angles, power however. Harris has a diverse tool set in that respect. And always pushes forward, he doesnt get contacted and go back. Which is hugely valuable. All 3 of our backs are that type of guy. Which is also very good for the ol. The amount of 2nd and longs says other wise. It was a fairly steep drop off. From one of the best in the league, a driving force for our offense to viable. Its not like he was playing at an allstar or borderline allstar level. That said, I think a lot of good and borderline allstar rbs in our system would turn into allstar borderline elite rbs. That what great running offenses do.
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Pretty safe bet. I think the key with him is upside. He swings for the fences with the high picks. Some times they miss, but when they hit they contribute in a big way and quick. If he drafted a campbells soup can right now, id trust the pick. Hes earned it easily. Even when you might want another guy, you get his approach. And his approach works.
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If we started using him like brandon banks... scary.
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I expect us to beat ham and ssk, then split the other 2 at worst. So yeah agree on 13 wins. Maybe 14, we could sweep montreal. But away games are hard, especially this year.
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Athletic measurable is why he went from a mid round draft pick to undrafted. 4.77 40, 30.5" vert, 9'2 broad, 4.40 shuttle 7.34 3 cone and 22 reps. At 5'8 202lbs. His highest percentile score was 76%. 43% for vert, 77 and 76 https://www.cfl.ca/2017/04/07/comparisons-sake-projecting-johnny-augustine/ Olivera ran 4.7 with 35.5 inch vert, 9'10 broad, 4.17 shuttle, 6.90 3 cone, with 29 reps. At 5'10 230. His slowest 40 yard times were slower then Augustines slowest times but his fastest time was faster, and he was better in every single measurable department then augustine. While nearly 30 pounds heavier. Were pumped about him because he had a very good NCAA d1 career, is a big power back with very good athletic numbers. Augustine had how many rushes and catches before this year? Literally 100s of better backs have 0 touches in the cfl south of the border. If not 1000s. Anthony coombs had way more touches then augustine and while we kicked the tires on coombs we stuck with augustine. Coombs has more potential but zero chance to stay healthy. 11 carries for 3 yards or less in 2 games. 4 for 10 yards or more. 1 in the last game. Minus the 1 outlier run of 55 yards in the LDC and he has 118 yards on 27 carries for 4.3 yards. Thats something you learn in college and HS. Not in the pros. Teams have tried to teach the likes of trent richardson how to read blocking at the pro level it just doesnt work. You can improve it, but you cant teach it. Just like a qb reading the D. You can help them grow and improve but a player bad at reading the field in the pros will never be good-great at it. Adequate yes. I would say hes almost exactly replacement level. We could plug nearly any pro RB in his place and get the same production. He doesn't hit the hole with any authority, he is indecisive with the ball, lacks significant power or speed when running. He is a tough kid, and a secure ball handler. You cant expect more from a 3rd string NI rb. Hes as good running the ball as lafrance was. Id take Normand back in a heart beat for the blocking and teams play alone.
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This is the dumbest crap ever. Demski, speller, mason, lucky, Alexander, humes, jeffcoat, Neuf, Nichols and harris. Plus our starting kick returner in nelson, Plus remple our LS , and our no2 rb in olivera. Thats 11 guys who would have started. No one is that hurt right now.
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Youre wrong. Thats how bend but dont break defense works. Look at our 2 games against edmonton. 61/94 for 65% completion percentage 775 yards 8.25 yards per attempt and we beat them both times. Are the riders a passing team though? 5th in the league in passing yards, 8th in passing tds, 3rd fewest passing attempts etc. You have a good completion % and average but that is not indicative of a passing team. Volume is.
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Or you can follow up when he provides this huge boost...
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Chris Streveler - Has your opinion changed?
wbbfan replied to B-F-F-C's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
One or two all of last year too. Streveler has a lot to improve and learn. He may never be an elite starter in this league. But he did carry the offense in the banjo bowl At the very least streveler is a very young guy who can factor in games as a back up and win you games in a pinch If the starter is out. If he never become more then that he's still well worth keeping. Wouldn't wanna pay him starter money but I'd love to keep him. -
I would have taken Messam as a player in a heart beat. As a head case not so much. In this league as a back up Canadian you have to play teams. And you have to do it well. A starter doesn't need to. Messam was a starter Betts isn't yet.
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Two plays for half those yards. While he isn't explosive by any means it's not sustainable. To proclaim him any thing other then what he is a stop gap is a huge leap. Saw too many poor runs. He will be the back up as we don't have any one else, the only time he might get more touches is if we sit the starters in the last game. He isn't spelling Harris based on the last two games or otherwise.
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Betts can't play teams, lber, DT etc. It's hard for a back up rotational end to be exceptional just pass rushing. I'm a big fan of Betts, Kongbo isn't the same kind of prospect. Kongbo was the best talent in the league and a steal. Betts could be one of the better nis in the league in a few years. Where as Kongbo could be playing significant minutes in the NFL at that point.
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Yeah he hasn't shown more then other back up fringe CFL Ni backs. People love to hype average players who over achieve. Ni rbs who start for years are extremely rare and so so because they still maintain a high level of production. Lacking that highly productive imp RBS are far too easy to find. Augustine is a small less athletic Olivera. And Olivera may not be a starter after Harris leaves.
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Chris Streveler - Has your opinion changed?
wbbfan replied to B-F-F-C's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Gumby didn't soo much play like steveler but he did run alot. And took frightening shots every game yet still lasted. -
Chris Streveler - Has your opinion changed?
wbbfan replied to B-F-F-C's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I doubt it's sustainable yet. But that and more would be sustainable easily if he reaches close to his peak potential. Injuries could be a problem, but that's a coin toss. Some guys play recklessly and last many other play passive and don't. All the new starters this year league wide have had some great games and as many stinkers. But it plants the seeds for a great future of league qbing. -
I see us finishing with 13 or 14 wins. Probably split with Calgary at the end of the year. Battle of the third string QBs that day.
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He did take a good step forward. But he went from being really bad to sub par. Finding a big Canadian body that can block as a FB isn't hard either.
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Calgary twice. I really wanna beat hammy though.
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We will already be hard up for play time with bailey when lucky is healthy. Certainly wouldn't take woli Peterman demski or an imp off for him. We use the dual carry threat we just use it with other guys like demski and lucky and we use motion as much as a static two back set.
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With out jeffcoat no less.
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Yeah this is the deepest kick cover team I've seen. The great thing about those two is even when they don't get the tackle they are in on the play an opening stuff up for others. The top cover guy from each game could be a star in almost any game this year.
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If you take out a big catch and one run its a very sub par performance over two games with a great, great run blocking ol and game plan. Plus Peterman and Adams are great blockers too. Augustine has more carries for 3 Or less yards then any other out come. We were constantly in second and long over both games. With Harris he'd a averaged 100 plus yards rushing alone and more catching. Augustine is slow to read blocks slow to hit the hole lacks speed or significant power. He's a good tough player. Great we a third string RB but that's it right now.
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Yep. You di one guy and rotate a lot.good problem to have.
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I love the two back set with two guys who can run. I'd rather see Harris at FB depth with a faster guy like demski or lucky etc as tail back. Augustine isn't nearly good enough at blocking to be the second back. Olivera still leaves Augustine off the roster next year. Peterman on the other hand was fantastic as usual. Can't say enough about his game.
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Augustine was average over all and a lot of sub par runs. He isn't taking carries away from any one any time soon. Harris is the best in the league.