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Yeah missing starting qbs hurts every one . Masoli has been on the 1g injured list. But he will have to be revoked, david watford went in for them this week. He's the only other qb they have on the roster. So unless they ****** a vax'd qb from another teams PR or trade for one, they wont have enough.

The teams record when youre on it doesnt much matter, if youre carried. If you think he was any thing less than carried by offensive talent in his first go around, then D, medlock, harris and the OL the 2nd your fooling your self. Or maybe just trolling idk. Who knows why every team in the league keeps firing the guy on average after 2 years. You should maybe call around and tell them the spiel about the GC ring and play off games. Great teams have won at all levels in all leagues with poorly run and in effective offenses. Youd be hard pressed to find a worse passing team in a year to win the grey cup. Probably have to go back to the wing T era. Just because we won, doesnt mean we didnt carry plop. If we had a good or great OC, we have another grey cup and a fist full more play off wins.

Dane evans out 4-6 weeks. ooof. https://www.tsn.ca/hamilton-tiger-cats-dane-evans-out-4-6-weeks-1.1693141

Tim burke 2.0. But sad for every one involved he fell into juuust the right circumstance to squeeze enough wins out to over achieve. And had the right fan base to hype them into the stratosphere. Not to mention just the right tools at qb to make up for not being good.

He did though. He forced them into his role. They couldve done more in a better system that played to their strengths. As much as possible, khari and milt pushed out side the boundaries of his system. You should also go back and see the amount of plays khari called in 2002. And audibles made. You dont seem to understand the difference between changing for the sake of change, and working wrinkles in and setting up progressive plays. You screen/hitch then you double move screen / hitch and go. Plop screen / hitched 90 times, then threw an out. He ran inside zone read from pistol/gun 90 times, then he ran a direct snap inside zone read. The defense takes away the screen pass, you adjust by play action screening one side, and jail break screen or liberty hand off to a jet sweeper. Ocing is about tendencies. You have to have plays that break your tendencies, and you have to have plays that your tendencies set up. So when teams take away your bread and butter you can have steak. Plop has never understood that. He has tendencies, if the D takes them away he keeps on going to them. To shake them up he mixes in random un related tricks and gadgets. And generally I love tricks and gadgets. But he used them worse than any other OC in the last 20 ish years. People hate mediocrity. More then epic failure. Maybe gary crowton or one of a mix of OC by committee was the worst Ocing we ever saw in bomber ville. But the most absolutely mediocre OC with no signs or seeming interest in improving was plop. Its worse in pro sports to be mediocre than bad. You can turn bad around fast, mediocre stays that way for a long time. Mike kelly and sean salisbury had great accolades and grey cup too. Then milt, brown, blink and khari didnt get one. Doesnt mean they are good or where better. Dont forget too, the bombers had the greatest turnover forcing defense in league history, and most field goals ever to carry the mediocre passing game. And an excellent resurgent qb to carry our passing game to the GC. Nichols and plop should split their ring with Mo leggett and some others. Plop is the poster boy for mediocrity.

Soo much this, streveler was a dual threat qb, but a great throwing prospect. Not just some athletic guy who could slot in at qb. For an oc to make a guy worse is the worst thing to do. And with out question he did that to streveler. This just in, getting the best RB in the league is good for ocing. More news at 10. Idk how any credit can go to plop involving harris. He was a beast before we signed him. Demski was finally the fit he wanted. But dressler in the jet sweep was poor. The guy was also ran into the dirt on those plays. He was dynamic but he wasnt really good on those. He easily couldve played a couple more years if not for that. And been more healthy when we needed him. Plop is the only OC ive ever known to have every teams fan base love his being fired. Theres a reason why the guy averages a new team every other year and fell out of the league for 5 years.

That deep atack wasnt plop. The screen passes to rbs and heavy run up the middle no matter what, that was plop. Khari, like collaros in the play off run threw guys deep at times, and threw away from the look. You can see it a lot actually if you watch the wrs when collaros is throwing long you can see the patters nichols frequently threw. Having 1 guy deep, isnt a down field passing game. Its running off the saftey and corner / db. A deep threat passing game has multiple deep routes like the famous 4/5 verts run n gun. He had an offense with the most productive backfield in history, the best wr and an elite qb. And got fired lol. He didnt turn durant into a prolific passer. Plop was the oc in 08 and 09. in 08 durant had 1100 yards 7 picks 6 tds. 4k 25 and 21 in 09. Plop gets fired. Durant instantly throws for 1200 more yards and a full yard more per attempt. His best play came after plop, inspite of him. You look at all those early picks, thats a guy trying to force the ball down field with very limited targets down field to throw to. He made piss poor use of streveler. He tried implementing RPO/zone option late in the 19 season. Before that we faked the option. And the attempted implementation was bad. When streveler was in for us he mostly ran for his life. Nichols could run fine when he got here. He had the monster 50 yard run in 17 when he put up 200 yards rushing. Harris is a fast tough runner. He has solid power, but his running strength is hands down off tackle. He's much better stiff arming line backers and dbs than running through the gaps. He is still good at that, and not limited by any means. But we hardly ever use or used him off tackle. He cuts back or bounces out side on closed gaps and tears defenses apart. Being such a strong receiver as well, you could do serious damage down field throwing to him. What wil lber is gonna be able to cover him 10 yards + down field? As for examples of guys we used poorly or not at all the list is gigantic. From lucky, to dressing Flanders as a DI for 12 ish games and almost never using him. We never used 2 backs, we never moved harris to slot and brought flanders in didnt spell harris with flanders nothing. We wasted a DI for a ton of games. Can you imagine what harris at slot motioning the jet sweep would open?

100%. Some guys may grow into being a head coach, but dickenson is too fatally flawed. He isnt a leader and you cant make him one. He's like the anti maas, but they are soo opposite they have the same effect in the end. Maas is un disciplined wild and angry. Dickenson is undisciplined and kind of a slimy little guy with out a solid fiber in his being. Coaches should always be held to some extent responsible for melee's. Much more so when that coach is negligent in team discipline continually.

They can run in small amounts exceptionally well. Because the backs can carry that. The OL however cant carry the load of doing it when teams know its coming. Foster has 16 carries in 3 games, and white has 54 in 5 games. Youre talking 10-12 running plays a game. When youre pushing 20 consistently defenses occupy gaps, run blitz etc to counter the run. Nearly all of torontos runs we didnt have guys covering each gap. Every time TO runs its basically the effect of a draw on defenses. Almost a trick. If they increased the work load 50% defenses would change how they play them and take it away. They would have to double their run game in order for it to carry them.

https://3downnation.com/2021/09/13/ottawa-redblacks-sign-former-dallas-cowboys-receiver-terrance-williams/ Ott brings in a good nfl vet wr. Too bad the poor guy doesnt stand a chance.

The bombers were only a 3rd place team due to injuries, we wouldve been the top team other wise. But we were a bit of a miracle. If collaros wasnt insanely good we wouldnt have won. A contender is a team that you expect to win play off games and be in the grey cup. Our team in 2019 was a contender, then injuries derailed us, and one of the greatest player come backs of all time left us better then we started. I expect TO to make the play offs in the 3rd seed, with heavy pursuit from a cross over team, and lose a close game in the east semi or lose by a lot in the east final. Vernon adams doesnt need to have a stellar background. On that team, he doesnt even need to be very consistant. They can run the ball extremely well. To, can run well in limited touches. They dont have a line that can run the ball 25 times a game to win. They have the back, but not the OL or the system for that. Vernon adams has shown that he can take over games by him self. MBT, and arbuckle havent shown that. The als dont need the same thing to win from their QB as TO needs from theirs. And despite needing less, Vaj has shown he can do more. If we didnt have cap space to just add him, the lber coach role could be taken off stanley. If we had to remove some one it'd probably be patterson at dl coach as a first year guy. He could be rolled into the organization in another role. IF its for refusing the vax, I wouldnt take him back. If he is vax'd Id take him back with open arms.

Looks like young is suspended along with their DB coach. Its being made out that they arent vaxxed MLSE is forcing all none CBA members (ie any one but players) to get vaccinated. Is young that type of guy? Idk but I would think and hope not.

With kongbo, jake, and hansen rotating. That'd be lights out. We'd get all the sacks. I like sayles and walker too, But damn. Actually we'd probably still carry a healthy 8+ dl any way Ahh I see glenn young is now not with the team as is their DB coach... sad.

They wont. They dont have the qbing to beat mtl or hamilton in the play offs. MTL plays ottawa 4 times this year. To gets ott twice, and edm in the middle of their 3 in 6 days. But for the argos that game only has 3 days rest between it and hamilton. If edm wins one of those 3 games thats gonna be it. Write it down and quote me on it at the end of the year. I love what the argos having going on roster wise and coaching up till this. They arent in a position to contend this year. MLSE doesnt give a damn about the cfl, or argos history. They'd be happy to pull the team out of the cfl and play in the XFL 3.0. Pinball and dinwiddie have some thing great brewing. If they can continue to develop an OL, run more, and get a steady QB they would dominate the east like hamilton did last year, but better.

I think its desperation by MLSE to drum up interest in the argos. They are a good team and on the right path, but they arent gonna be a contender this year. I think MLSE plans to axe dinwiddie and maybe pinball and give jones every thing he wants to try and replicate what he did in ssk in To. MLSE has no idea how to market or sell the argos. They've never had to work to sell sports. I suspect the RBs, or even edm, maybe ssk are all his fall back. If it doesnt pan out this year for him I can easily see one of those teams going to him hat in hand and giving him all he wants. Its not a dumb move for him, though it is a real douchy move. First I bet Shane ray bounced back from his 6 game stint on the IR much sooner then expected. After that itll be interesting to see if mccoil suddenly gets the majority of reps. And if his impact is just on D or of its on O too. I havent heard what his official role will be yet. I cant see jones and dinwiddie getting a long well. Id love that guy here. Idk how we'd fit him but hes a monster. Hes kind of an over all athlete than a 1 stand out trait guy. He's the future of DL physically. They wont all be sky scrappers like him though.

This smacks of MLSE to me, doesnt at all seem pinball esq.

Grant would be huge to get back soon. Plus his speed could be a serious aid rotating in the offense too. Im hoping he's heathly soon and able to practice for the bye week and be 100% for the game after. Since we signed namaan all the wrs have stepped up. They were all like oh cool, but I dont wanna be the one to go out for him. Darvin looked a lot better in the bjb, I think he just came back too soon and wasnt 100%. Next couple weeks I think he will settle in with zach and start being the deep threat he was a couple years ago. The bad penalties away from the play, some poor blocking, a lot of drops all seem to be heavily improved. Nothing can motivate and focus young pro's like bringing in a seasoned vet to compete for their job.

True that too, glen young has also been really good as their DC. I love their coaching staff decisions up to this point. Right? I wonder hth they are gonna fit his pay in under the coaches cap... Right? Hes bouncing on kids, thats low. SPHS isnt some rando school either. Its a serious prep, and they just got reinstated and are on probation for 2 years. So it probably works out for them any way. Chris jones lead team thats already on 2 years of probation doesnt stand a chance.

https://3downnation.com/2021/09/13/chris-jones-resigns-as-south-pittsburg-high-school-head-coach-to-join-toronto-argos-coaching-staff/ Omg whaaaaaaaat? Man I hate that guy being back in the league. Such a toxic ****. I feel like thats gotta be pressure on dinwiddie at HC. Which is dumb, he's been exceptional for them. Id take him as an OC here in a heart beat. So far dinwiddie looks like he deserves to be a HC in the cfl.

Harris is one of the best of all time. Both are top 5 guys. But for me, blink is no2 behind pringle. And its kind of an emitt vs sweetness thing. Pringle had the much longer career, but blink stack up blinks seasons with pringles best and blink was better in every single one. And he did it, with far less than harris or pringle too. Watch those clips of him and look at the names of his OL. Those were some crazy lean years for our OL.

100% for. They shouldve done it when they honored him a couple years ago. Didnt he have trouble getting across the border to do that? Might be hard to accomplish now idk.

It does go both ways. Lots of times good and great systems make players look much better. Maas has covered up for fajardo a lot this year, and last year they did too. A lot of old 90s early 2k run and shoot ncaa qbs etc. Scheme can diminish talent. A perfect example is our WRs last year. This year lucky, demski, adams, woli, and lawler would be the best wr core in the league if used properly. Last year lucky spent half the year on the PR because all plop would do is use him to run off the saftey. If lucky sticks it out up here, hes gonna be way better than banks or chris williams ever where. Hes not just fast, hes quick. Woli is an example too. The guy doesnt just fail to get open then suddenly bust open when we throw it to him. He lives on an island thats hard to throw to and blocks in alot of our scheme. That was the long held standard. But in the modern day with teams ability to review plays at the bench and adapt, and how much study goes into film its a necessity now. If you look at any high level football OCs day plan the week of a game they spend 10+ hours installing new stuff to fit their weapons and to attack a defenses weakness. Lapo is antiquated in that sense, as well as lacking. Most offensive minded coaches come from a strong lineage in a style, usually today its one of three sytems, spread to pass, spread to run, and zone read style offenses. And the thing is, the depth of plays available and over lap is gigantic. And the roots are soo strong and deep if you lack in an area a phone call can net you 10 years worth of trial and error self learning. So if you dont have a flex guy that can block and run deep, or a guy who can rack up YAC and run sweeps or a back who cant run between the tackles or off tackle etc you can fill the gap in your play book with stuff thats just as good but fits the pieces you have. Plop is very much a self taught coach. He doesnt have those roots. Thats why he always just hammers away with the same stuff till he finds a player that fits what he does. Remember how many terrible jet sweeps we ran with dressler on his last leg and after dressler left till we found demski really good at them? 2 years of futility. Opposition defenses are gonna know what youre gonna run in the game for the most part. And they will know with decent certainty when you are running the ball. If you run sweep or fake sweep and dont have a guy who can execute sweep youre just hanging your players out to dry. In modern football you just have to be better than that. I hope buck improves. So far this year ive been underwhelmed by his play call. But Ocing/playcalling is the hardest coaching job in sports. And its his first year, so I hope he will grow and improve.

I dont know how you can refer to that play and claim a double standard? VAJ was NOT a star and really still isnt, and that play was far worse. The swing of the helmet is what got him suspended. Its clearly written that swinging at some one will get you ejected. We see helmets pulled off by face masks a couple times a year. Fact is, helmets are seldom strapped on tightly these days. We see helmets go flying or hit the ground every 2 or 3 plays. Face masking is NOT an ejection, face masking and some ones helmet coming off is also not an ejection. Its pretty clear tbh. The riders were piling on harris, who never touched the ball, took him to the ground and were on him trying to injure him long after the play was whistled. He had to struggle to get up and the rider went after him as soon as he was up. If it happened on the street itd be pure self defense. The attack on demski shouldve been ejected. That was an attempt to injure. The riders also tried to go after WJ right after the sack that knocked fajardo out of the game. If willy had been a lone, or had not run to celebrate that OL wouldve clocked him from behind. Thomas stopped the cheap shot. They were still going at it when brady was in and ran all over them. This was 100% a riders instigated fight. 3 riders should be suspended, and maybe dicker too. He has failed to assert control over his teams actions the entire year.

This is the best, and most dynamic QBing the bombers have seen in a very long time. Weve had some brief runs of great QBing in the semi modern era, but they always had a catch. Usually in the form of a lot of picks. But collaros doesnt have a catch. He protects the ball, he can make any throw, makes great choices and lets his wrs go up and make plays. And I think as the year goes it will only improve with play call and familiarity.

Dont know if he does or not. But he is the RBs coach in toronto which is awesome. Thats a great guy for young RBs to learn from. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-7-charles-roberts/id1533831658?i=1000501412601