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Not necessarily. Its possible to have a poor coach and a good unit. Great talent, the right bunch of guys etc. Or for a coach to be great at teaching, but wanting in play call or strategizing. Generally Id say a coach is never as bad as they might seem, or as good. A coach can also do a great/picky job of taking co spots. Bruce arians is known as the qb whisperer, but if he wasnt pressent would big ben, carson palmer, andrew luck, and peyton manning be any less great? We have issues on offense, no doubt about it. The fact that we go such long streaks with out moving the ball, not being able to convert in the red zone (tds), and execute poorly on the first drive of each half points to that. Some offenses score far less over all, but more consistently, and move the ball more consistently. If any thing our feast or famine scoring points to play makers making plays. Rather then our coaching staff manufacturing drives. Id wager we are among the poorest teams on those 2 drives. The most heavily pre planned and practiced drives of the game. That first drive is a pre planned 10-15 plays that we drill all week. Our offense in fact is dramatically better in the hurry up. Id rather see nichols call the plays then plop. No doubt he has put in some very good wrinkles and design plays. But they come out at sub optimal to poor times, and end up predictable. We also havent used package guys, offensive DIs / flanders as more then distractions. The lack of option use with fever/davis in their action in the regular season. Then we whip it out pulling nichols for extended periods in a play off game. Destroying the edm front 7 with the run after going 2 and out, then promptly abandoning the run play. Can you imagine if we ran the ball a reliable 20 times a game with both flanders and harris getting touches? Play action to one then toss to the other? some trap off toss stuff with both a 2 back set or one in the wing/slot? We used flanders out of the slot some, but not harris. Imo harris is clearly the better pass catcher. But why not show both? Plop has been effective enough and shown improvement enough to keep and hope it continues. But if we lost him it wouldnt be like when we nearly lost marshall as DC in the swaggerville era. Good is the enemy of great. We have a good offense. Good enough to win games, good enough to win a grey cup. But not with our current defense. Which is also good enough to win but not great.
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Earned his money last year. Not this year though. For the pay hes making, hes gotta kick like last year. Id rather give FMB a chance. Wouldnt castillo be a FA from ham as well?
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Roster wise 1) new mlber. 2) a wr to take the no3 slot whose a viable top level threat. 3) Back up qbs. A new vet back up, and a new developmental qb. 4) dbs to push the young guys 5) another NI that is a fringe starter to maintain flexibility when injuries hit. 6) Return man to push fogg. More so roster wise its gonna be about where we cut salary to add the pieces we need. Coach wise, new dc. I think plop is only gone if he takes a promo else where. His flashes of brilliance come with soo much confounding play calls a better OC would be great. But idk where that person would come from and dont think we would fire plop to upgrade.
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Yeah, weeks off can be hard to over come like that. Not to mention possible un ease in handling the ball.
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Bob mentioned it early in the post game show. At that point in the season you CANT have players un sure of their assignment. Imo thats gotta be gone before LD classic. Whats really bad is we saw that on offense too. Twice a WR was off the page with his route. (i have to assume at this point that nichols is on the page) Perhaps a sign of too soft and friendly a coaching staff. (doug mentioned the coaches that got the best out of him where the hellfire and brimstone types) Or overly complicated / poorly explained systems. Coaching has to be better next year.
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I would add a new back up qb, a new no3 wr, and a bit more ni depth. (every team needs that) But yeah we arent far off. Plop going away from the run and out thinking him self drives me mad some times. But even in that he showed some great wrinkles, and did not run the jet sweep with dressler.
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QFT, one can not forget that we lost Westerman (our best rush end) Mo (Our DPOTY) Bond (maybe our best ol) Adams (our best wr) and who knows who all may have played at less then full strength. Its bloody hard to lose 4 of your very best and over come that. Adams stretching the field opened up soo much in our offense. With westerman we could carry an extra DI, or an IMP mlber, bond plays an 'easier' position on the line but is our biggest miss match, and Mo could be our MoP candidate every single year. The best sam in the league.
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Should this regime be on the hot seat?
wbbfan replied to White Out's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
In general better play calling and coaches decision making. Edm didnt even coach that much better then us, we did it that poorly. I wouldnt go THAT far... But that tsn gimmick of maggie the monkey doing NHL picks but with plays may have. -
The Consolidated Bitchfest Thread
wbbfan replied to Wanna-B-Fanboy's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
you mean the people who didnt think the game was over with 9 + minutes to go in the 3rd? Sadly cant really hedge out the band wagon fans. Those are allways the ones most crazed following a let down. The bones of the team are no doubt good. Its going to be a challenge for walters and co to improve this team and stay under the salary cap for next year. A couple pieces would have been the difference between going to calgary and going golfing. We draft well, and find good young talent each year. Imagine if geoff gray comes north? -
Its been more up and down, and more the back field then that. JSK has been very very good at Lber. Wild was down, then mo went down. The DL with poop and nevis has been exceptional. We havent had consistent performance from the dbs. Last year, and in camp/pre season this year it seemed like we couldnt miss on a DB prospect. We went younger, and got worse. System is some of that. I dont think any one has issue with randle or heath in general. Fogg hasnt been the same since cooling off 2/3s of the way through last year. By position we are up in the air at worst with 2 db spots and 1 lber.(sam if mo doesnt recover in time or at all) We went from a low blitz usage, zone/match zone team that dropped all but 4 or 5 guys, and some times sent a DE back and only rushed 3-4, to a team sending 6 and 7 but with out great pressure. Mos' involvement in the D doesnt mesh with halls system. Tackling gets bad for a lot of reasons. Trying to make a highlight reel hit and selling out, being worn out, being out of position etc. Its also a preparedness thing. Poorer tackling is going to happen when you cant have hard full contact practices. More so now and moving forward you need guys who come in with a rep as a guy who will wrap and tackle. You wont be able to hammer it into guys and make them good tacklers. I look at the ex bomber DBs in the league and its hard to imagine thats again a hole for us. I wish frederick was kept, and bruce johnson too.
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The Consolidated Bitchfest Thread
wbbfan replied to Wanna-B-Fanboy's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
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That last part is the truth. The good players on the team are gonna lose sleep over this for a long time.
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Played well enough to win. thats for sure. his pressure was great all night. corney too. against any other qb those guys combine for 5 or 6 sacks.
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Bad play calls, bad tackling, poor execution. Edm took advantage. They beat us fair and square. This is the type of loss that you lose sleep over.
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We had a couple plays with good tackling. But over all tackling was very poor. You cant play bend but dont break D, and tackle poorly.
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The time to be aggressive would have been on the 2nd down. The fake punt call was HOORRRIIBBBLLLEEEE. A fake has gotta lead to a power shift in yardage or points. If it doesnt, you just kick. Abandoning the run was pretty horrible in its own right. But you cant compare to that fake. We got out play called in all aspects.
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1 Harris. We forgot about him. But he played like a man possessed. The whole time. 2 Dressler. Same thing, big plays every time we needed em. 3 Coates. Caught every thing thrown his way, and 2 big plays when the game was still close. HH, Goes to the fans. Stuck it out, still loud late in the game down a bunch. they gave all the energy and lift. Down 2 tds with less then 5 left still made a ton of noise.
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GDT West Semi Edition: Do It For Hewie The Moose
wbbfan replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Listening to hall on the pregame show is mind numbing. They interview the MOEs gm, brown is really ripping him for his teams lack of humility man that was good. Then brock says hes soo proud of his team for not using the injuries as an excuse, so he then goes on to complain about how it limited them and how they called guys and started em the same week. Mirroring some excuse making from maas' presser. Man I dont like these guys. All they need to do is trade reily for BLM, get duron carter and they have all the biggest @$$s in the league. -
Bad traction is good for the short passing game tho. Thatd be like 3 deep cover guys for free. Harris isnt a sprinter either. He strikes me more as a mudder. He runs hard, pushed the pile and fights for yardage.
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If momentum doesnt exist game to game, calgary would have like 8 GCs in the last 10 years. Home field isnt allways an advantage. The first year or two of our stadium for example. The noise certainly is an advantage. Weve seen flat starts from the bombers. Weve also seen when we get stuck in lulls. A home crowd can affect that too. NOT having the play off buy week is huge, then home field is big as well.
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Should this regime be on the hot seat?
wbbfan replied to White Out's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
He doesnt, the difference of allen post 40 and pre is pretty tremendous. He had a few really great passing years, but over all he was very much a dual threat master of none. The rose colored glasses of nostalgia have been painting the mac attack, allen and others as better then they were. Especially because they had their best passing years in their 40s. QFT. And if they allow it to continue at this rate, we will see it get worse. Only a matter of time till you have a play call for a wr to draw the foul and flop with the intent of a challenge if you dont get the call. Spend more effort protecting prone players from cheap shots and less making pass pro touch football. Drives me F%$#ing nuts. And i dont have far to go. -
time for some UN Finished Business!
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Wouldnt say that. Maybe floyd brought out the worst in mcg though. I have a low tolerance for out side the octagon shenanigans. But it only gets worse and worse.
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Watched The Void. A horror movie that draws heavy inspiration from HP lovecraft, hellraiser, and event horizon. Its a good watch if you are into the genre.