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weve won the turn over battle most of the season. But yes with that many, a pick 6 and a return for a td called back to the opponent 10 yard line and an average starting position of around center field you had better.

Certainly. The schedule gets softer now if we can get healthy we can make a real run.

Any thing you say before but, doesnt count. Hammy had the exact same kind of come back last week, it is some thing we should have worried about. The game is on the line till the whistle is blown. The red zone production was still poor despite the 2 early tds. Nichols gets way too much credit for a game the teams and D won.

Nichols 2nd half was one of the worst offensively weve had this year. The D and teams won us the game. should tell that too how many coaches have been fired and qbs run out of town in the years post dave ritchie. fans stop showing up like they have and suddenly pressure is hot and heavy on management and thats put off on coaches. And then down on players. We Didnt really protect the ball in the 2nd half though, nichols toss a pick 6 that was flat out dropped.

Thats the type of attitude that leads to long losing streaks. You dont often get that many turn overs and amazing returns on teams leaving you starting at center field all day/ NO game in the cfl is over at the half. One needs only look back to last week edm and ham to see that.

do you think we will win more then we lose giving up more passing yards then our combined offensive yards?

Im talking about the 2nd half and over all in terms of field position. How did we leave a ton on the field? We had amazing field position and put up little to nothing out of several opportunity as i listed. They didnt stack the line. When the D/teams gives you the ball in FG position and you put up a fb the offense doesnt get positive credit.

your right. Which is just over half the length of the field. that 7 play drive was also our longest iirc. in every other game this year that would have had us in fg range. Our td drives came from there 10, our 43 and there 39. Mean while we punted after starting from our 55, kicked a fg after starting on the hamilton 17, and a fg after starting from the ham 37. punt after starting at our 41, fg after starting at our 54, Point is, nichols put up points but in situations he should have, and with gift wrapped field position left a ton of point on the field.

nope. Those 2nd half numbers were as bad or worse then willys worst halfs. With a dropped pick 6 too. Never had a long drive or drove the lenth of the field. Barely half the length on his longest drive.

nichols had 3 drives over 30 yards and none over 60 yards.

http://www.cfl.ca/games/2300/hamilton-tiger-cats-vs-winnipeg-blue-bombers/#playbyplay 1. plays #84,85,86. 2 and out. First drive 3rd quarter. 2. plays #114,115,116. 2 and out. First drive 4th quarter. 3. plays #131,132,133. 2 and out. 3rd drive 4th quarter. 4. plays#151,152,153 2 and out. 5th drive 4th quarter. hes just mistaken. 1 isnt a huge difference, but 3 2 and outs when we badily needed to drive the field in the 4th. 1/4 15 yards in the 3rd quarter passing. 4/6 36 yards and took a Time count penalty. so 5/10 51 yards and a time count when we were deep in enemy territory for the 2nd half.

yeah he did. But when teams are 2nd or 3rd and one and dive, thats I form. Or when they go goal line. MB loved to run draws and dives out of the gun/pistol in the red zone too. Never worked well for us.

cant believe the dc fanboys are trying to get rotten tomatos shut down for all the negative suicide squad reviews.

The sheets play is what you see on the huge majority of Qb keepers, and goal line plays. The other 2, are dual back pro set ran out of the pistol. Your chat argument was that the I form was based on 2 backs with a FB lead blocking. All those plays have 2 backs with a lead blocker. Ott uses the 2 back set even more. We saw harris score a td last night for a td? Idk what you mean by that. We run between the tackles A LOT. I wish we ran off tackle more. Virtually every play since the dawn of football has had the qb with the option to pull it on a running play. Doesnt happen often as it can make transitions handing the ball off rough.

In short yardage situations under center runs are the most productive. Not solely because of a blocking back but because of the head start the RB gets. If there is no hole, the fb just adds to a log jam. Few today are capable of moving the pile from fb depth. Most fb's in the cfl are teamers who are there to pick up extra blocks here n there and weight in at DE range. Pushing around some 300+ in side line men is rare. Especially since you pinch the line in that situation. Most Tail backs are going to be hitting the line at full speed out of a deep set. The pistol helps with that, but still increases time from snap to rb while having less run up room for the tail back. After what we say tonight, Id say just give the ball to normand and let him hurdle the line lol.

Goal line

at 40 seconds you see pro form / off set I type of play run where the FB is motioned to the TE spot. again at 1:26 and so on.

at 1:06 you see a pro set motion out of the pistol. Kind of a wild cat type option motion play. They use this look a lot.

The 2nd half was a great struggle for our offense. Its the same stuff weve seen all year long. Only the first half was much more productive. But even then we werent aggressive. We had amazing field position in the first half. I think we do need to change some of out play calling and philosophy to get the most out of our offense. I dont think there is any chance we will though. Plop has run the same offense every year here in every role. We brought him in knowing what he ran and let him run that same offense.

None of that is canadian rules though. Those are all american. My point was, running short yardage out of pistol/shotgun is a poor call. Especially in the red zone. Almost all qb keeper short yardage / goal line offense sets are from the I form. So while you havent noticed it, youve seen it in every single game. The ace forms are single tail back I form. The snap and kneel formation teams use is also I form. Teams down south that use H back I form in which a portion of the time they line up with no FB. The I form does not mean it has a FB. It means you dont have any off set backs. Such as pro form. Kelly ran wing T / wildcat stuff that used some I form, some split back, some pro form and so on.

Not a bad choice. In retrospect i might say the crowd should get the HH. or a star. The noise and hype in the first half was a big deal.

Considering they lost yeah. And there isnt really a precedent for a punishment on this. If some one won a very close game I think it should be much harsher.

every win is allways 110% because of the qb.

under 80 ish yards in the 2nd half, 5 first downs 4 2 and outs. Could be as simple as the moves made on the OL. Though I think nichols gave a spark and made the best of a better situation.