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"People forgot a key ingredient to develop a QB... you have to have a bonafide starting QB FIRST." What i responded to. The nfl is harder on qbs and rookies start if they are high up side, and if they sit more then a year its a rarity. Sitting on the bench for 2-3 years does nothing to help the development of a football player. Like i said, and people around the cfl saw, these guys showed the flashes as soon as they got a chance, and played at a high level as soon as they got starts. Even before becoming the no1 starter. Those guys, were also young. Davis, has been a pr/ fa bouncer most of his time as a pro. If im wrong and your right, he still hasnt had what those guys have. Still 0 starts and in that same age range as the rest of those guys and our no1 no2 who both have several starts. Davis last start was in 2011. Since then hes had garbage time in 2 pre season games. Do you see the difference? Hes not where the "developed" qbs in the cfl were when they took starts, and is far older. in 2011 we finished first in the east, lulay, glenn, ac, and buck pierce, were running amok at qb back then.

BLM came in and won games in his 2nd year and looked great. Reily was stuck but as soon as he got a start after 2 years he showed great. The same stuff he showed in pre season. Similar to harris. But harris even more so. Didnt say any of them are elite yet, but you look top to bottom in this league, you dont see qbs who take a ton of years to show promise. These guys could have been playing earlier very easily. These guys didnt come as bumpkins and over that time become some thing special. When your in your late 20s with little to no flashes no starts your chances of going any where are awful. If these guys were slowly developed youd see high starts low production years and a taper up. Not guys coming in off the bench being highly productive in their first starts.

BLM Showed flashes as a rookie in his limited action. In his 2nd year He got starts and was very productive. Its not like he was sitting and getting thrown in for garbage time and looked mediocre. Masoli had a big game in his 2nd year being pushed into action. Trevor harris had to wait a long while to get a shot, but had a ton of promise and hype from his high level play in pre season. If you watched them play before they got a start and in the pre season they were ready. And mostly werent guys sitting under amazing qbs developing from them. Thats why those guys, and guys like willy had a lot of expectations around them. As opposed to our two young guys currently. Getting stuck behind a better player doesnt mean you arent good. Ask geroy simon about that.

No it isnt. BLM, masoli, mike reilly, trevor harris, all stepped in. Its about the guys you bring up. Any american qb will need some time to learn the canadian game but sitting on the bench not playing for 3 years doesnt make you a better player. If you cant pick up the game from watching film, coaching and practice in the first year you arent quick enough mentally to cut it in this game. Khari was a back up for 2 years, he wasnt an after thought. He was the core of the trade as taman was in BC and the guy that recruited him to the cfl. The trade of an allstar OL was not based around a depth pick in the draft back then. The draft pick was an after thought. Sitting under damon allen who was a run first qb and a mediocre passer at that point didnt do him any great service. Maas spent a year as a back up, showing well in limited action as a rookie, with no vet teaching him in front of him.

pretty much not a great card over all but a couple good tilts.

Thats not really true. It takes the right coaching staff and pieces. But mostly the right qb. Ricky ray and jason maas didnt have that. Khari jones didnt have that. The current crop of good young qbs in the cfl have been thrown to the wolfs and become king of the jungle. This time next year he will be 28 and on his way to being 29. With 0 starts as a pro. Chances he takes any major steps are beyond slim.

All 4 of our qbs have very similar skill sets. Above average athletes to good athlete. Good short to mid accuracy, lacks accuracy on deep balls, average arm strength scramble to throw types. All that nfl size and build. Davis is faster and the better passer between him and bennett. Davis at 27 isnt much younger then willy and nichols. But much less polished then either. He has the best up side of any of our passers, partially skewed by his being the fastest and best runner. He has to make some thing happen quickly though. Very few qbs in the 28-29 range that have such little pro experience ever get any where. Might be too old to improve and make big strides. A lesser bryan ahyat. Bennett is young, but his fundamental poor throwing mechanics and lack of accuracy is probably not some thing fixable. Nfl considers passing mechanics and mentality to be mostly un coachable at that range. The guy has allready been a 4 year hs starter which is a very high level compared to most sports pre college levels. And then again in college. Think tim tebow. I dont think either guy is what we need. Neither has the skill set or tools to evolve into an elite passer. Both have the ability to be play makers in limited action.

yeah that doesnt hurt.

yeah pretty much. His pass port has made the club from the tub for 2 years.

I hope your right. I think he's 1 meh TC away from being out of football.

oh wow we have an addison richards sighting!

interesting. If he hits the veteran point where he gets cfl pension i doubt he ever gets to the cfl.

could be. Though hammer is supposed to contend this year and we are not and we were winless no one wants to be the team that gives up the first win to another team. see ott in the past.

no, thats who he is lol. Look at the mile long post of quotes.

You can check the stats, he got one. And 19 on a kick off isnt even good. And there is no chance he returns over fogg who was dynamite in the regular season in the one game he had. Flanders is a good football player. No amazing strengths, but no real weakness either. But harris is a monster and one of the most durable players in the league. Not to mention plop isnt gonna run a 2 back offense. As much as id like to see that wrinkle with flanders wont happen. That and we havent seen if he can actually pass block, which harris is really good at.

consistency is a huge part of winning. And winning is whats important. That said, I dont love our chances this week. Short week against a hammer team thats gotta be sore about us beating them earlier this year. If we do pull it out and nicholls plays a similar or better level as last week I dont think we can make any changes easily. I would really like to see a better long term qb we could develop though.

must be true every time i google shayon green cutting diamonds with his face chuck norris memes come up.

some better quality there. OFC its no1. *spoiler*

yeah the vomit comet. Every defensive player dreams of hits like that. Hardest hit ive ever seen in the cfl. Because of his play on teams when macho is healthy im sure he will get up on the roster but another game or two like last week and loffler will be locked in imop.

yeah scouts to coaches to fellow players the biggest attribute people look for in a pro athlete is desire. To play, and to win. You cant teach it, fix it, remove it or replace it. Its the big reason i was never really keen on jason maas.

kilgore i imagine the other slightly less impressive logan.

so your still claiming he has more then 1 return as a pro + college?

plop is still better then bellifool any day of the week. I hope denmark comes in hungry and with a healthy chip on his shoulder.

Hes just postponing the inevitable. I could see some serious slash and burn + air lifts once nfl cuts start.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/players/roster/henoc-muamba you are correct.