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Didnt things get all blustery at one point when some one compared vandervoort to bauman? Not a fan of comparisons, an interesting read all the same. There is a world of difference between coming up playing TE, and going from a stocky wr to nik lewis a good ways into a pro career. Size / weight distribution, TE skill set, NI etc.

irvin looks like a guy to come in and push the young guys, offer depth.

the site crashes arent helping yeah the combine is gonna earn and lose a lot of invites and that will change up the best available a ton. we could end up with one of a fist full of different guys with the no1 pick. If only we had a full combine roster.

hes certainly an interesting prospect. Man that would be sick i cant see them giving that much though. if there was a guy like henoc at the top that was gonna be on the team this year maybe. Id actually rather trade down to say 3 for a depth pick this year 2-4th and a first next year. We are allready deep picking this year.

nik lewis wasnt 280 pounds when he first came to the cfl and found success. Hes gotten bigger and bigger each year.

It may just be me but i feel like each year there is an antony auclair type prospect. A guy whose really a TE and doesnt fit with the pistol spread every team seems to run in the cfl. But as the talent and athletic ability improves with each passing year of the draft I wonder if/when some one is going to make a system change. A lot of teams in the pistol have wrs pitch in and block an end on some plays, screen passes seem more common then the previous 5 or 6 years etc. For a team like us, the last few years our NI wr production has been soo low I cant imagine having a guy like auclair who could help seal a dominant rusher on one end, pick up blitz etc would have been less valuable. Not to mention weve seen what guys like messam can do match up wise on lbers, and dbs in this league. But i have a fetish for odd ball systems. packages, and positions. Auclair probably gets a long hard look at the nfl. Out of this draft class Hes probably the highest risk pick. Between his fit in the cfl and nfl interest. It will be interesting to watch though.

if i had i would have included boobs or jock pics. witty retorts during the down time dont get the likes. i dont think any way

in 06 he might have hit a 4.3 40 on the back of a motorcycle xD

Thats the truth. No joke. Spurgeon lose and purolator pat barnes etc. The cfl just takes a different mentality, mind set, and speed of play then the NFL. Its a rare thing that a qb goes one way or the other with success having had success in the other. Even the great old examples of flutie and garcia etc, those were a long time ago when teams still ran traditional american form offenses. Before the default being single back pistol offense.

he was 4.4 fast. back when he was young. now hes vince old and out of shape so who knows.

its off season talking points all over and run over thread to thread. any thing that has us talking football is good imop xD I think its desperation, and the taman esq desire to win the presser instead of games.

yeah i mean i cant cry too much for them (aside from being in the west) they have an elite level qb at the right age. He isnt gonna jump to the nfl at 32+, hes not soo old hes year to year, etc. In shape his mobility is maybe the highest in the cfl among qbs. The trend today is more towards guys who can extend the play and run if they really need to, not to guys who are real double threats. He is a double threat level athlete no question. If he is / can get into shape. His arm was solid, but inconsistent. And his passing mechanics / release point are junk. And release is slow as a result. With the wide field, and his mechanics if he has to throw on the run he will need to move the ball down field. If he scrambles and tries to throw wide side outs its gonna be pick 6 city. That is the hardest pass to make in the cfl, especially if you have to throw across your body. He struggled to adapt to coverage and scheme from college to the nfl. He flashed and sizzled in a game he played since he was a child. I cant imagine that is going to improve in a drastically different version of football. Cant say, locker room dynamics are often speculated on but can often be very wrong. Only his team mates and coaches know. Short of a run first qb (early michael vick) you allways need strong protection. If the pocket crumbles up the middle its very very tough to make any kind of play. With his mechanics he will need the ol to limit pressure to being off one edge at most. He doesnt get rid of the ball quick, and you dont want him throwing on the roll out a lot, but atleast he can pick up yards on the ground in that situation. If he isnt, they can push him into shape and teach him the game. Its not as bad on qbs physically in camp as other none kicker positions. Teaching him the difference and getting him to mentally adapt early will be a much bigger hurdle then getting his cardio up to snuff. Think it was like 5 years? Only one off the top of my head to do some thing like that was kerry joseph who was i think retired and played saftey and teams prior to the Renegades bringing him up as a qb.

Thats scouting life. Not even as bad as regional scouts who watch every game on video go to as many as humanly possible then rewatch video to send those names up. Football and football ops are not family friendly. A few years back read about the scouting regiment of nfl teams from 09-12 where qbs went top, and some teams went back and watch every snap of football those qbs took from before HS up to their final college game multiple times. Teams with picks a few under no1 just in case the qbs fell and they had to make a decision on them to pick or trade.

jock staring and boob pics for post likes. Training camp cant come soon enough.

You can find a mobile back up to fill that role though. If that happened and reilly lived up to the hype that would be the best case scenario. But if he doesnt thats pretty much worst case ontario for them. If he performs too well he either bolts to the nfl or gets crazy money and the starting job on a team in next years FA. In general im not on the wagon with upstart QBs as starters/elite tier until they maintain it. Far too many flash in the pan guys who cant stay healthy or cant maintain the level of performance.

probably very close to the shape of a football right now. On that jamarcus russell diet. I imagine a lot, like a lot a lot. I cant see him and glenn being even close to as low as just what durant made.

ac, burris and damon allen got hit tons and tons being mobile qbs for many years before settling down. Ray was as pocket as pocket can be and got hit while throwing a lot too. except those guys got hit a ton to his age range too.

you are worried about 32 in the cfl? how many great seasons have we seen from guys pushing near 40 in the cfl? Franklin is in no way proven enough to risk a season on. you dump franklin and miss a beat and its game over. IF edm was fallen apart or had lost a ton of pieces (like ott) and were looking at rebuilding / retooling then maybe you take that gamble. Hoping to expedite the process of rebuilding. but that isnt the position edm is in.

cant feel too bad for some one who chose to go to that gong show of a franchise.

No kidding. michael bishop clone at best.

its like the early 2ks don matthews led als. Except with out any of the success. And some how more hated.

The nose spot does exist in the cfl, it isnt the most popular atm right now how ever. Really with him I think you have to look long and hard at if you want to change your system to make use of him, and if he will be around / around long enough to be worth while. I really do like his talent though. But i think hes gone to the nfl for atleast a year or two to start.

wasnt the talking point vandervoort not ni wr it self? With simonise out certainly been a long while since a NI wr had the polish and potential to go with it. I worry his cis game speed isnt going to translate as well as one would hope. You can find polished guy lower in the draft normally, but guys who have a heavy deficit in terms of athletic ability. If our scout team thinks hes going to translate well to the cfl athletically then i think his case for no1 would be much stronger. Especially if he will be in camp and soo many other top 5 guys wouldnt. I dont think their is much of a chance he comes into the league first year and produces on the fantuz/sinopoli level. If he produced right away like gore Id be shocked. one handed snag on a mid to deep route with out losing stride. That kind of concentration, with body control and great show of hands grabs my attention. Bugs me to no end when i see wrs body catch and alligator arm catches.

Fantuz isnt at all a good comparison. He came out 15 lean pounds heavier with similar speed. The difference between him and fantuz is as big as him and denmark weight wise. Cfl draft comparisons in general are extremely unfair. The difference in the athletic level of cis draft picks 11 years ago to now is gigantic. If you want to cherry pick you could compare addison richards to jason clermont when he came out. And favorably too. Simonize has great measurables, but so did richards etc. Each of these kids have to be evaluated as a stand alone. Weve seen lots of good wr prospects come out and fizzle in the last fist full of years. Of late it seems like one of the higher risk low reward positions. (at the top 2 rounds or so) Im not at all sold on him as a no 1 pick. But im a big fan of the value in drills and 1 on 1s. The fact he is in the combine is a + for me too. Especially now with simonise off the board. Vandevoort is handily the best wr in the draft and while others skip hes going. He also has fantastic hands which is a big plus for me too. He should at worst be a serviceable Ni wr. If hes a high motor guy with great hands itll be hard for him to fail.

I was more talking about over all league wide. I had no clue what his suspension was for personally xD no kidding. I wonder if its a true 4 year or 3 plus an option or some thing. Do they have recurring team options? Short of a top 10 player in the league including all none qb positions or a qb i cant see giving that term in the cfl. Too much changes too fast and the shelf life of football players is scary short.