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mt showed cover 0/cover1 half the game. They dropped some, the blitzed other times. It made picking up who was rushing very tough on a young centre. The cfl isnt an audible at the line league. There isnt time on 90% of plays unless your in the hurry up. A lot of teams tried a lot of strats to beat the every thing and the kitchen sink the als used to use. Some good sask and to teams tried double tights and were crushed. The best success was staying spread, running, using play action, and the hurry up to not let the D get the play in and set up smoothly.

That pocket collapsed and was pushed back nearly instantly. Unless there was a screen pass called, or a wr un covered all he could have done is throw the ball away.

Vast majority of people in this thread are putting every thing on willy and nothing on the ol/play calling. The simple truth is that every aspect of offense has to improve. We dropped passes, missed throws, missed blitz pick up etc etc etc. A side from harris who was a star even with too few touches especially in the first half. Every one thought he was nuts. People laughed at ott none stop. Over paid hank, then got a 2nd starter. Went all wr all day. And hes some how made it work and work bloody well. End of the day a great passing game will take you further in the cfl then any thing else. As there is allways time for one more long bomb.

"It's a perfectly legitimate point. Montreal is likely the worst team in the league this season" Ive seen you make far more ridiculous claims.

2nd quarter and 3rd quarter is garbage time?

Pretty much. We were 2 balls off the fingers / an upright away from winning that. In 5 weeks we could be any where between 0-6 and 5-1 depending on how they straighten things out. Love the way mcduffie returns and runs. But hes gotta get a bit more sure handed too.

>.< now i feel bad AND old thanks.

dear god thats depressing. But bob cameron is soo old he was punting footballs off the mayflower. He retired after his college retired! xD

not wrong. Not to mention wally buono hasnt missed the play offs since ww2 broke out.

ottawa is an exception to the rule with building/rebuilding. That said turn arounds should not take 3+ years in the cfl.

After a full re watch. 2 of those 3 over throws that would have scored hit hands. High tosses for certain. But the ones to mcduffie and smith gotta be caught. The ball cant hit both your hands and the turf. We had more bobbled passes then i remembered on the live watch. Aside from tossing high, willy wasnt tossing the most catch-able balls. Its laughable to say only one sack was on the ol. They gave up pressure up the middle countless times. Willy did bobble the snap and didnt pick up rushes before the snap. But we also got shut down on the running plays on second down, and on short yardage. Thats not willy. Thats the OL.

Its not a disaster. Its workable problems. Will we fix them? who knows. I think judging by the adjustments plop made at the half he will be able to rectify some of the poor calls if he hadnt allready in the last quarter and a half. I think we have the right OL coach to get The problems picking up blitz, stunts, and twists better. Those will all help willy. If we have some one to help settle his feet down, get him to look off wrs, and not get soo zoned in on short/medium/long itll be a good year.

you should watch the time glenn had vs the time willy had. and the strength of his pocket. Our play calling was fine? how many touches did harris have in the first half? Willy had 2 poor over throws. He also had a drop in the endzone to go with another that would have been a first down. he was sacked in less then 2 seconds twice and was able to get a throw away another time while being contacted in under 2 seconds. Thats not good protection. When pressure comes fast up the middle there isnt alot a qb can do. He didnt play well, harris and a couple wrs are some of the few who did on off.

I was highly critical of willy in the chat and posts last night and have re watched the game. You clearly havent and missed much while watching. There is a lot of blame to be spread for the performance last night. Not nearly as much goes on willy as early play call, OL blitz pick up and protection.

The nature of it? When the qb is playing like t martin sure. Cant put this all on willy. If you want to talk about just accepting the nature of sports, whats the nature of winnipeg football never winning? should we accept that too? Or strive for better hmmm Say what?! before the 4th our longest completion was 14 yards. And we still couldnt churn out first downs with a high completion percentage. We ran the shortest patterns possible for the most part. Several times guys were covered, several times the pressure was instant. Sacks in less then 3 seconds. Willy didnt hold the ball too long last night, he never had a chance to hold it too long. Wrs played really well aside from the drop in the end zone. Every wr caught a pass save for JFG, none looked bad. There was some really good down field blocking from the wrs too. first we need to establish the run early and often. Prevent the D from pinning back its ears and coming after willy. second we need to use that strong run game to play action. We hardly did pa passes but when we did they worked very well. third we need to do a better job of play calling. reverses and hb draws up the gut into a 7/8 man front on 2nd and short isnt a good way to convert. fourth willy has to be comfortable in the pocket. Set his feet and throw. Know when to step up and when to scramble. fifth the OL needs to play and communicate better. There was alot of trouble picking up blitzers especially down the middle. But thats not a huge surprise with such a green starting centre.

Adequate to lose i guess. Even with 90% of the game being dump passes and short routes he still got hit a ton in a fraction of the time glenn had. There is no obvious 6 man rush situations. The als showed switched between showing and dropping the entire game. Theyd show 7 man fronts and rush 3 plenty. Glenn wouldnt have been sacked 3 times unless he would have slipped twice. We had a couple border line late hits that doesnt mean he was close to being sacked. Flushing a qb like glenn doesnt mean you are close to a sack. Glenn got hit harder? Maybe the one hit bass laid on him forcing the under throw pick was the hardest hit on any qb. But willy took a TON more hits and total damage. Have you re watched the game? Or are you just going off your already established opinion? Like i said no such thing as an obvious blitz situation. They got pressure on willy rushing 3 men only several times. If you dump the ball instantly because the defense shows blitz and they drop? pick 6.

It is if your gonna point fingers and call for peoples jobs. Not to mention the difference between technicalities and being wrong.

Average fan has no idea how long protection has to last in order to complete a pass over 15 yards is most of it. The Ol played a good bit better after we started running the ball half way through the game but still lacked in pass pro.

Release doesnt change the amount of protection he got. Read the comment. He had multiple 8 second no hold pass protections. Willy averaged under 3 through 3qts.

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Actually you blame it on the guy getting lit up nearly every game since hes been here. And you see many qbs who play with under performing OL go through that. Khari went through it, ricky ray and ac had it. Ac had it a lot before he landed in mtl with an OL that could block. Any one who want to bench willy or put him on notice needs to go back and watch the time glenn gets vs the time willy gets. Nearly double.

you should re watch the game then. Because he was sacked twice up the middle with in 2 seconds of the snap. When we are throwing short passes the entire game and still giving up sacks, thats not the qb holding the ball too long.

what pray tell do you think hes going to audible to? There isnt time in the cfl for that, nor the personnel on the field to call an audible to counter blitz. We ran short outs all game. Only 2 passes made over 16 yards. Thats exactly what you throw against a blitz. Quick outs. You would change your primary read to the hot read and get rid of the ball. He was sacked 5 times with 0 coverage sacks. Hit in the double digits. They didnt establish any run in the first half to prevent mtl from just blitzing. And our ol was giving up pressure down the middle. Re watching the game right now, through the first half hes getting well under 3 seconds of pocket protection before they are on him. Thats only enough for timing routes. His foot work was struggling, didnt set up and throw well, threw off the front foot a couple times etc. Stuff that happens when a qb hears foot steps.

5 sacks, none coverage. hit double digit times. Yeah lots of time...

No joke. They seemed to stop blitzing and harris really started to get touches and grind in the 3rd qt. But when it counted, when we needed first downs, yards, an answer to montreals momentum we got nadda.