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Teams that had success developing their own qbs? Edmonton developed Warren Moon in the late 70's. Then came a string of outstanding Eskimo qbs in the 80's starting with Matt Dunigan, Damon Allen & Tracy Ham. Calgary was known as a qb factory back in the 90's with Jeff Garcia, Dave Dickenson & Henry Burris all rookies who developed into starters. Then in the 2010's with Bo Levi Mitchell. They also developed Jake Maier who has had mixed success as a starter. In the 2000's, the BC Lions developed Casey Printers, Buck Pierce & Travis Lulay. In the early to mid 2010's the Argos found success with Zach Collaros, Trevor Harris & Cody Fajardo. Vernon Adams came into the CFL in 2016 with Montreal but moved around a lot. He played for the Riders in 2017. Then came back to the Als in 2018 where he played until the end of the 2022 season. Then two more seasons in BC during 2023 & 2024 before signing with the Stamps in 2025. I have no idea who really developed him. It seemed it was a joint CFL effort for him.

Agree. But to develop one qb since Brock as a CFL starting qb (Dru Brown) then let him walk is bad. Extremely bad. I have zero expectations any qb they bring in will ever develop. They all end up coming & going.

I learned to be skeptical of any young qb who came to the Bombers since Jim Krahn out of the University of Arizona. A supposed blue chip prospect he had it all physically. He was tall, athletic with a strong arm who could tuck it away & run if the pocket collapsed around him. Fans like me were excited. is this guy Dieter brock's heir apparent? I got caught up in the hype & was more excited to hopefully see Krohn get some playing time over Brock. Krohn's big problem as it is with a lot of American qbs was that he couldn't adjust to the Canadian game. He failed miserably. Krohn played part of one game in 1980. he attempted 17 passes & completed 10 & tossed one td pass. The problem was he threw 4 picks the other way. During the game, I remember he looked lost at times on the field. he'd be sacked, fumble or throw a pick at the worst possible time. Head Coach Ray Jauch never played Krohn again & was released after the season ended. The guy wound up playing in the USFL with Philadelphia & never distinguished himself there, either. After that disappointment & ever since I just yawn now when they bring in these young guys as 95% of them can't play in the CFL. We all know the Bombers record the past 30 seasons developing legit CFL starting qbs. Not very good.

Told ya, these guys are totally replaceable. Every year they come & go. The only thing is the money wasted on their so called development & a roster spot. I learned a long time ago following the Bombers & the CFL that if they're unknowns signed for third string or PR roster positions then there's a good reason why no one's ever heard of them. They're replaceable as changing yesterday's dirty underwear. Artoepus got a job coaching high school qbs in his hometown & good for him. He was never going to see the field here & was probably the first qb who would have been cut. And we had posters here thinking he may be the next great one. Hopefully, Artoepus becomes a successful head coach & his time with the Bombers will be a footnote in his future career.

Wouldn't that be something if he was cut loose & we signed him? Don't overpay, though.😏

These older players sign their 1 year deals thinking the money will always be there even though younger receivers are being signed or drafted. Then, the money dries up for these older players. They've gone 6 weeks without being signed as free agents. They can see the writing on the wall. No one will pay what they want. The market dries up. Had they had a 2 year deal they might still be employed. That's the downside of 1 year deals. Older veterans beware.

Trevor Harris contract for 2026 is $455,000 in hard money according to 3DN for 2026 with $509,300 in maximum value. Since you're so hung up on money, at least be accurate with your post. 3DownNationEXCLUSIVE: Trevor Harris contract details for 2026 CFL se...Trevor Harris said he once again took a team-friendly contract with the Saskatchewan Roughriders for the 2026 season and the numbers prove his statement to be t.

You go dig your foxhole & keep staying in it. Zach is overpaid & that's the end of it. Your take is baseless. There was no one out there we could have signed two years ago that would have done better than him so the Bombers gave Collaros an extension. You mentioned Fajardo & Adams would be your qb choices. Faj was dumped after winning a Grey Cup. Adams has never won anything & is so inconsistent that he's like a Jekyll & Hyde personality as a qb. If that is your choices, most fans would be happy with Zach. Signed with Hamilton.

You want Fajardo or Adams? No thanks. CoFaj is inconsistent which is the story of his career. That's why he hasn't found a home. Even after winning a Grey Cup. Adams just panics. Defenses get into his head & he gets rattled. He has great games followed by absolute stinkers. If we had cut Collaros & used either, we'd have missed the playoffs. You're the one hung up on money here. Was Collaros overpaid, sure but not by much. With the new reworked deal, maybe $50000. But that doesn't buy a lot on the free agent market these days, anyway.

Hopefully, this is the last of the AI Blue Bomber team summaries. We don't need to read them. Full stop, please.

I hate this AI ****.

I think the possibility is there for Zach to have a rennaissance season with Tommy Condell. We all thought Trevor Harris was finished but he was elite last season. The question is at age 40/41 can he keep doing it? Zach is 37. Turning 38 this season, can he do the same? Yes, it'll be interesting.

Maier is the highest paid BACKUP QB. I think that tells you what other coaches think of the guy as a starter. Even he's talking about taking his CFL career one year at a time. Is he even 30 yet? He knows that a couple of bad showings & he's done. Get his money while he can.

This is how I see it, TBurgess. I don't know if you agree or not. I don't want to argue with you. You're a veteran observer of the CFL like me. I do respect your opinioon even if we don't always agree. The problem with the CFL is that coaches now want to waste a roster spot on short yardage slugs at qb like Tommy Stevens, Jake Dolegala, Jarrett Doege, Quincy Vaughan or Chris Streveler. Guys that are called qbs but couldn't run a regular offense if their life depended upon it. So, young qbs that may have a chance if they were developed will get cut because the CFL runs short yardage offenses with these guys scoring touchdowns. All it means that 9 spots that could be used for development are taken up by those guys. If the NFL can run short yardage with qbs like Brock Purdy, Sam Darnold, Matt Stafford, Dak Prescott, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Bo Nix, Justin Herbert, Aaron Rodgers, Justin Fields, Trevor Lawence etc all starters making millions why is the CFL trying to be cute running short yardage qbs? Because winning games keeps the head coaches employed which usurps qb development. Maybe a great short term thing but disastrous for the CFL long term. I believe that we need to keep the starters in. Let them run short yardage. Get rid of these gadget qbs & use the QB2 & QB3 positions to actually develop young guys to play. The talent pool at qb in the CFL has dried up. Something has to change.

It doesn't matter. Money is imconsequential in this discussion. Who is/was out there as free agents that was better than Zach we could have signed? There was no one so your argument makes no sense. It's baseless. You may not like hearing that but facts are facts. They paid Zach because no one else could take his place. Or do it better. That's the reality of the situation. There aren't any backups in the CFL ready to step up & be stars which is a real concern for the longevity of the league.

Who would you have given the money to had Collaros left? What free agent qb out there was better? You keep saying it was a mistake. That we overpaid to sign him & don't tell us anything else. Without names, it's a baseless argument.

There were qbs available like Powell. Whether he can win as an eventual starter is debatable. The problem with the Bombers is that they're stuck waiting on Egersma to come up here at the expense of everything else. Walters won't sign anyone until he knows if the Canadian kid is coming here. The logic to which I don't understand because no CFL contract is guaranteed. In other words, they could have signed Powell had they wanted to because if they chose to they could release him later if Elgersma has a change of heart. If not Powell, then a couple of the depth qbs they have now on the roster like Artoepus & Wilson. We shouldn't be keeping a backup qb seat open for a rookie. I have a feeling that Elgersma doesn't want to play here anyway & we'll eventually have to trade his rights to a team in Southern Ontario.

What kind of twisted logic is that? You make no sense. With your argument, every player is overpaid. And there's no market for any player to ask for money. You realize that Rourke will be making $700,000 in 2027 & $800,000 in 2029? Is he worth it? Has he got the Lions to the Grey Cup? What's he won??

Sure. Scouting guarantees us the next HOF qb. Lol. If only it was that easy. Try again.

Where are these upgrades going to come from? No one answers because they have none yet the bitching never stops. We just have a bunch of spoiled whiners here complaining about his salary whether Collaros takes a paycut or not. Like they're paying him themselves.

And probably not win. Maier was dreadful as a starter in Calgary. He hasn't shown he'd do any better as a starter. Powell hasn't played much. No one knows what he can do. Powell has sat for 4 seasons. You want to gamble the future on those 2 to save some money? I don't.

There are no starting qbs on the horizon anywhere. The backup qb situation sucks.

I used to have a 1966 Canadian Silver Dollar. I had it since I was a kid. My son has begun collecting coins so I gave it to him. I think it.s worth $6 or &7. 1966 was the last year the Canadian mint used actual siver to make that coin. There is another 1966 silver dollar circulating that is rare. If you have it, it's worth hundreds of dollars because it's so rare. i used to know how to check but I've since forgotten. I do know that the coin I had was not that rare coin.

You think you had it rough? This was my first career job working with my hands. My boss was tough. He was a slave driver. I'm so old I had a Jesus Starter jacket.

Who could we have replaced him with? I'd like to know.