SpeedFlex27

Okay, Doctor Goalie... Teams usually have a ceremony at training camps & invite the players not there anymore back to receive them. If some are with other CFL teams they'll give them out when the Bombers play them. Still 7 weeks until camp.

No Paul Maurice.

Well, of course they'd do a physical. C'mon man.

Okay.

Okay, let's expand IG Field to 55,000 seats to accomodate all the honourees.

They should have stayed with this:

We need one more receiver & he'd be a great addition. But we know Toronto will scoop him up because the CFL says they can.

Yep, there's a reason why my Ukrainian Uncle hated all Russians. He survived the Holdomor but I don't know how many relatives he lost, He was conscripted (forced against his will) & served in the Soviet Army in WW2. He always felt a good Russian was a dead one.

I think you answered your own question by saying words like "brilliant" as well as "all time favorite". How can Tom Clements not be up there? The other question is, after Clements & before Collaros, what other qbs won us Grey Cups & were CFL MOP's at the same time? Not Salisbury & not Burgess. In other words, Clements & Collaros won a championship & dominated the league the same year? That's why both deserve a place on the ROH.

Just like Latin American tin pot dictators. But in Kenney's case it wouuldn't be a tin pot. It would be an air fryer.

Corus Radio has given Kenney his own radio show for an hour on Saturday mornings in Edmonton & Calgary. I just can't imagine even wanting to listen to that as every UCP staffer calls in with softball questions while other staffers screen who calls him. Just before Kenney's leadership review. It'd pretty obvious Corus wants Kenney to be Premier or they'd have stayed out of it. I'd love it if callers would lie about supporting him & why they're calling in then hit him with tough questions he stumbles to answer. Just make it a complete **** show. Have you read some of Maxime Bernier's tweets? He supports the Freedom group. The man is insane.

And as usual, the East will crash & burn like it always does.

The Bombers made the playoffs the 5 seasons Clements was here. They were Grey Cup contenders every season & a Grey Cup winner in 1984. He was also the CFL MOP & Grey Cup MVP. Like Clements, Collaros won't have a long career here either due to his age but he'll still be a deserving addition to the ROH as well after his retirement. It's not so much the years put in as the body of work by Clements which in his case was truly outstanding.

I'd say cigarette companies were right up there, as well. How about Winston having cartoon characters Fred Flintstone & Barney Rubble hawking cigarettes at the end of that cartoon so little kids can see it. This is insidious.

You know, I did some quick research into subsidies of O & G going back to 1916 & the US government did subsidize O & G starting that year with tax breaks such as a "Depletion Allowance" which allowed oil companies to write off 27% of their revenues. So therefore, I withdraw my comments about O & G companies not getting subsidies at the turn of the century when they were getting established. I was wrong & withdraw what I said.... I still don't like the way things are being done today but I was wrong on subsidies. My apologies. Well, gents. I don't mind admitting when I'm wrong. I have to go but this discussion was interesting. This Old Dawg learned something new today when it came to subsidies.

First of all I've been paying taxes since 1971 when I got my fist job in HS at aresturant washing dishes in Winnipeg so I have an idea how they wor. Second, I read that post on Norway. Taxes on gasoline powered vehicles to pay for EV infrastructure. basically punishing drivers to get them to buy EV's. Every indusrty has subsidies. I already agreed with JCon about that. My point is O & G wa saround & functioning powering society long before any subsidies came their way. Unlike the Elon Musk's of the world relying on them to finance his Tesla vehicles long before they were viable. His company wouldn't exiist without government subsidies. But that's okay. Every industry has subsidies so Musk is entitled for Tesla to get them as well. That's still unaffordable to a lot of people. They need to be similar prices to gasoline powered cars like a Toyota Camry or Ford Fusion. Then they'll have something. I've no doubt that it'll get there someday but not right now.

Costs to me are important. How many people can afford a vehicle that is $70,000 just to drive an EV?? That cost has to come down significantly if everyone will drive them. They are elite vehicles in my mind. When they become affordable, I'd consider it. Chances are, ny driving days will be over or I'll be dead by then. EV's will need roads so that's maintenace & not social engineering. Social engineering is when governments or companies try to alter society's behaviour or thoughts. A carbon tax is social engineering, therefore.

You see, that's where we differ politically. I consider the movement to renewables & the way it's being done as social engineering. We'll never agree. As far as the social side of politics goes, I'm with you all the way. On that we agree. Hard to lose my fiscal conservative roots. Especially at my age.

Right now? Not much. I'm not one of these rich seniors who have property in Mexico or constantly travel. My car is 10 years old but in really good condition. We live in a modest home in Calgary. I put away some money for retirement but wish I would've done more. Money's tight.

I'm all for renewables but not at the cost of hurting people financially. And please don't tell me that hurting people is a good thing because it forces them to make choices. Sick people deciding whether to pay for heating or starving is a choice, as well. That is simply social engineering at its worst. That's right. That was partly my point. Once again, I'm not against renewables. Just the way it's being brought in.

Norway.... Let's tax everything for the future. For EV's. For infrastructure. Let's punish peiople for driving gasoline powered vehicles. That's what you read. I don't get to do that. What do I invest???

but there was no road tax in 1910 for future roadways like the carbon tax today... for future green development. That's my point.

I was reacting to the applause Norway got on an earlier post, Jcon.

Obviously O & G is viable as you fill your car & heat your home everyday. As far as subsidies go, yes they certainly do. But I don't recall Henry Ford or Nelson Rockefeller asking or receiving subsidies to build oil rigs, roadways & service stations along new highways at the start of the 20th Century. People weren't taxed for riding horses instead of driving an automoble.. They weren't taxed because that was the way of the future. People weren't taxed when the Wright Brothers were the first to fly an aeroplane which would eventually lead to commercial airline service in the late 1920's & airports being built. Yeah, sure these companies got favourable deals from local governments but people didn'r pay a constantly increasing airplane tax or an automobile tax while they still used horses. You can say what you want about subsidies for O & G & how evil these companies are. But if Tesla can get it or wind generated companies then so should Texaco or Esso.

With the pandemic, social upheval & now the war in the Ukraine, I'd say people's priorities have changed. I doubt if the environment is #1 anymore as it supposedly was in 2018 before all this **** went down in the world. I'd say that people now look at a leader like Trudeau on the world stage & just shake their heads realizing just how weak he truly is. We see him traipsing around Europe trying to stay relevant by promising Canada will supply the Ukraine with a few drones , maybe a frigate or 2 while he still talks about climate change & he is laughed at behind his back. No guarantee the US would help Canada if Russia had incursions on our sovereign land in the Arctic Sea. So suddenly our lack of spending on our military at 1.34% of our GNP isn't enough. Our domestic policy of relying on the US to protect us may be a huge mistake. Also, Canadian energy security will become more of a hot button as time goes on. The Great Reset may be pushed aside yet.