SpeedFlex27

Man, the egos around this place... We just lost one of the best posters here who is knowledgeable about the game because some people just don't know when to stop. Congrats to everyone involved.

At some point he has to move on. I'm sure the NFL dream ia nearly over. At least he played so good on him.

There are some good MLB's coming loose in free agency. Guys that would be more than just a replacement for Biggie & all in their primes. I'm hoping we sign one.

It would be the biggest mistake not to sign Schoen & then he comes back to haunt us if he plays for someone else.

It always happens. "Just a quick heads up. My client's going to free agency". They're not talking contract. They're not tampering. Just info. He'll find a high school or small college somewhere in a small town where he'll coach in obscurity & probably be very happy while selling insurance on the side.

And yet, there's Damon Allen having done something those same Riders can't do. Win championships. Allen has the same number of Grey Cups wins as a qb that the Riders organization have won in 114 years.

Hopefully Hall is next.

Hank Burris 2. AC 3, Danny McManus 2. Kevin Glenn 0. Ron Lancaster 1. Doug Flutie 3. Matt Dunigan 2. Tracy Ham 2. Russ Jackson 3. Tom Wilkinson 2. Warren Moon 3. Ken Ploen 3. (Jim Van Pelt was the starting qb for the Bombers in 1958 while Ploen played safety). Ricky Ray 4. Not a lot of plethora winning GC qbs with 4 other than Allen & Ray. The debate is eternal & a lot of fans can't have it both ways. In the sense that Fran Tarkenton & Jim Kelly reached 3 & 4 Super Bowls respectively but never won so there legacy as great qbs mean nothing as the only thing that counts when it comes to greatness are championships. In the CFL, Sam Etcheverry while held in high esteem by the fans that still remember him, is still the qb who lost 3 consecutive Grey Cups to Edmonton. It's all about championships when the greats are being talked about.

I never said Kevin Glenn was vastly superior to Doug Flutie. You just did. It's amazing how stats can be ignored when trying to make a point by some people. My point is these numbers (72,000 passing yards) is very difficult to get to. A pedestrian, average qb would never be able to do it. Seems that's all he is here according to fans like you. Just an average dude who happened to put a few good seasons together & look what happened? There are plenty of 56% completion percentage qbs (or less) in the HOF. Hank is in the CFHOF so it doesn't matter if Hank, Allen or Flutie are better. They all made it. And yes, I believe that Allen is in the conversation for the ten best. Only Allen & Ricky Ray have won 4 GC championships. so they have to be. Any fan who says otherwise is just ignoring the obvious because of some kind of petty dislike for Allen because he played for other teams.

Nope. Stats don't lie. You look at what Allen did & accomplished & besides those two, who was better? If you can tell me I'd be interested. Who threw for more than 72,000 yards during their career in the CFL? There's only been one & was he truly better? How many qbs won 4 championships with 3 different teams in the Canadian Football or Pro Football HOF's? There are plenty of qbs who won multiple championships with one or 2 teams but 3 at different times?? How many CFL qbs are undefeated as a GC champion 4 times? How many qbs rushed for nearly 12,000 yards? How many qbs had a hand in nearly 400 touchdowns running & passing? If these landmark stats are so pedestrian & easy to get to &/or pass as a player then how come ony one guy has done it so far? Where are Doug Flutie, Dieter Brock, Tom Clements, Ron Lancaster, Jackie Parker, Sam Etcheverry, Ricky Ray, Conredge Holloway, Tracy Ham, Matt Dunigan & others? It should have been a cake walk but it wasn't. I'd like to know your answer.

The entire Royal family really sharpened their claws & fangs for Lady Diana. What a shameful display of elite snobbery & constitutional entitlement they all showed. She was never going to be accepted by the Queen Mother, Princess Margaret & the Queen. While she may have understood the tribulations she went thru with Charles she still was cold & distant while clutching the British Constitution close to her chest.

I'd put Allen right up there with Flutie & Moon.

Okay Colin, your theory is full of holes. matter of fact, it's pretty dumb. There's usually not another qb ready to go. Then the team with no qb goes into the dumpster when the veteran leaves... Which we've seen so many times. How often have we seen a team fall apart because they don't have a qb ready to go when a veteran qb retires? How many teams can afford to pay for two great qbs on their roster with the salary cap?? Just look around the CFL & figure it out. You know the teams that have collapsed over the last 10 years. Ottawa, Saskatchewan, Calgary, Montreal (after Calvillo), Edmonton (after Reilly), Hamilton, the Bombers of a decade ago... How many qbs play at a high level for 10 years let alone 23? Only one that I know of & he won 4 Grey Cups with 3 different teams but who wasn't a first ballot HOF'er. As far as your Vernon Adams comparison goes. A pretty good qb but Allen had won at least one Grey Cup title & maybe two if you compare both careers of the two players at the same time period in their careers. So, that doesn't fly either. Another thing, when Allen played for the Eskimos, the Stamps were the juggernauts of the Western Conference with Flutie, Garcia & Dickenson as their starting qbs. Twice Allen came into McMahon Stadium for the WDF & beat the heavily favoured Stamps as the Eskimos starting qb in 1993 & for the Lions in 2000. Then he beat the Bombers in 1993 that season to win the GC. As much as I'm a Bomber fan holding out hope saying had Dunigan played in that GC in 93 we'd have won, there's no guarantee that would have happened. Even though we'd like to think so. We'll never know. Yep, there goes Damon Allen. Former leading passer prior to Anthony Calvillo in the CFL with over 72,381 yards in the air, 394 touchdown passes & almost 11,920 yards rushing with another 93 touchdown on the ground, That's 487 touchdowns Allen had a hand in either throwing the ball or running. An undefeated GC champion. Won championships with Edmonton twice as well as BC & Toronto. A 3 time CFL Grey Cup MOP (87, 93 & 04) & one CFL MOP Award in 2005. He was a CFL Eastern Division All Star in 1991, 1998 & 2005. He was an All Canadian in 1999 & 2005. As well as a CFLPA All Star in 1999 & 2005. Yep, just the most overrated qb who obviously got his stats because he played so long in the CFL because some fans say so. They also say he was just an average guy who got lucky. You keep thinking that, Colin & Noeller.

You absolutely & I'm saying this with about as much respect as I can without being insulting... but you know nothing about what you speak. Being a first ballot HOF'er is nothing but politics about a very political institution. Being a first ballot HOF'er has more to do with popularity among the selection committee judges than performance on the field. How can someone like Hank Burris make it in on the first ballot & not Damon Allen? How is it that Pinball Clemons never made it as a first ballot HOF'er? Does that mean that Clemons exploits on the field mean less because he wasn't voted in on the first ballot? Robert Drummond & Craig Ellis have never made it. Neither has QB Joe Zuger or Cornerback Joe Hollimon. Oh & Doug Brown never made it on the first ballot either, so according to your logic, Brown's career must be diminished because he never made it into the Canadian Football Hall of Fame on the first ballot. The CFHOF Selection Committee is a joke. It has been a joke for years. It's all based on popularity or the players the judges liked/disliked when they played against, watched or covered them in the media., Induction is not always based on their on field exploits. I have no doubt that Allen deserved to have been there on the first ballot but it never happened. But to me, the problem with the Hall of Fame isn't the players who are in there but the players who aren't & why?

Phillip seemed to believe that once Elizabeth became Queen that he should have become King & he should have been making all decisions not Elizabeth. He hated walking behind her in public. That they weren't equals according tho the British Constitution. He didn't like being known as her Consort. He didn't like the title of Prince. Also, he gave up his naval career to marry her & he felt over the years that was too much of a sacrifice he made for her. I don't think, knowing what he later knew, that he would have ever done it again. He was miserable for 60 years.

Cale Yarborough was one of the best NASCAR drivers in the 60's & 70's.

I wouldn't be surprised if his agent did some preliminary work to see what the market would be for Evans as a starter for some teams. He may have talked to them about his client potentially signing as the starter & the interest may not have been very high.

I still remember Jim barker trying to calm him down on the sidelines of the 2019 Grey Cup as he totally melted down. Nothing Barker could say or do calmed him down. That was damned epic.

lAbout this time last year, the Jets went into their tailspin before crashing in the playoffs. I'm assuming (hoping?) that the same thing won't happen again this year. That with Wheeler & Dubois gone, the cancer has been removed & we continue having a great season. With those guys gone, other leaders can now step up.

I read his retirement statement. Two things I took from what he said. One, he was fed up playing. Two, he wants to coach. He had lost the desire to play. The guy had many setbacks as a starter & I think it took all the fun out of playing for him. It sucked the life out of him as a player.

He just couldn't handle the pressures of being a starter. He was happy being a backup to Vernon Adams. It's too bad as he had some talent but I never saw the Eye of the Tiger with him. I guess not everyone can be like Matt Dunigan who loved the spotlight & still does.

My post was referring to O'Shea's stubborness. Not the situation. Like Campbell, once he makes his mind up about something then he won't change his mind.

No, she talked to an ambulance chasing lawyer & they hatched a plan.

Tell me how you came to that conclusion, coach.

No, just the Argos.