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And Lemieux. Forgot about Lemieux.

You just said in that sentence that he isn't worth it, meaning you think his worth is Stuart and a 3rd. So how is that not what you said?

Even if you consider Bogo and Myers a wash (I'd still take Myers over Bogo), they still got Stafford, Armia (former 1st), and a 1st round pick. Which is certainly more than Stuart and a 3rd which is all he suggested that Drouin was worth since he asked for a trade.

Age doesn't mean that Chevy saw him as part of his "core" going forward. Look at the money he is going to have to dish out over the next 3 years to keep Scheifele and Trouba. Is Scheifele signs for 8 anbd Trouba bridges, then you have Frolik's contract expiring as Trouba gets his long term deal. Of course all speculation on our part.

I could see him wanting to commit to Frolik for only 2 - 3 years as the expectation some of the younger prospects would be stepping into bigger roles and higher salaries in that time frame. I believe this was also his rational for the shorter Stafford deal.

The deal is more confusing then just paying for the interest on the loan. When those articles start rolling all of those numbers together, they are including the interest that is accruing that the Bombers aren't responsible for, but are still attributable to the project in whole. From this article: http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/bombers-to-repay-bank-loan-first-222634991.html So they made their payment last year, this year, and assuming they make their payment next year, the CIBC loan will be gone by the time they start making their mortgage payments on the stadium debt. All the interest that is accruing is going to be the government's problem already. The Bombers are on the hook for $80M of the stadium and aren't responsible for the interest that is accruing right now while they defer their payments. That interest goes to BBB Inc / government. As I understand that BBB Inc is responsible for managing both the Bombers debt and the government's debt (I believe they are also managing the Polo Park development to collect monies from there). The government's debt is supposed to be paid for by the sale / development / and taxes on the old stadium site. The lack of development in that area is hurting the mortgage payments on the other half of the loan that the Bombers aren't responsible for (this is where the interest is accruing to as well while the Bombers pay-off the CIBC loan). So the government is already going to have to eat half the loan unless they can kick the development of the Polo Park area into over drive. When these articles talk about an accrued debt of ~$240M, that is accurate for the stadium project as a whole, but this doesn't at all affect the $80M that the Bombers are responsible for paying off. The government is already going to have to eat those overages. This is also why the PCs talk about how complex this deal is and why they would look at stream lining it. People see this $240M in debt that keep getting thrown about in these articles and how will the club ever pay it. But the Bombers are still only responsible for paying their $80M. Us tax payers are already footing the rest. The other complexity rolled into that $240M is the $35M that had to be paid to fix the structural problems with the stadium. Right now BBB fronted that money (and that is attributing to the interest accrual). At some point though, that money may be recovered with the lawsuit (or it may not be and the tax payers will be on the hook for that as well)

No he just went MIA before a game and it came out publicly that the rest of the Jets didn't want him in the dressing room, it comes out to the same thing. Everyone knew he was never going to play another game in Winnipeg.

Be happy to sign Scheifele for $5M per for the next 8 years.

We did okay good with the return on Kane

As soon as there are more than one team interested, the value goes up ... and guaranteed if the Jets offered Stuart and a third, some other team would offer more. TB owns the asset for years to come. Drouin has no leverage. TB will let him sit and rot rather then trade him for below market value. It isn't like he is a core piece of their lineup that they need to replace if he sits out. TB can afford to wait more than Drouin can.

Can't worry about this IMO. With restricted free agency, you have enough time to show your organization and city. How many players actually play for their home city in their career. When is Toews coming home? Jets seem to scout the US College system more than other teams, at least for now. I think they see real value when some of those players drop to their drafting position. You always take BPA and worry about the rest of it later.

Most of the Canadian prospects from Canada are either too old for the tournament or playing in the NHL. Lots of 18 year olds in an under 20 tournament. As for the Jets, it takes time for prospects to make an impact. You don't go from playing in the Juniors tournament to making a huge impact in the NHL.

Another 5 hour outage. Probably going to have to move the site sooner than later.

What does this tweet mean? Need the context of the tweet he was responding to: Paul Friesen ✔ @friesensunmedia Why is it news the Blue #Bombers are making a scheduled mortgage payment? Come to think of it, given their history, maybe it is.

Assume you go for max term with both Scheifele and Trouba, it would be nice to have them staggered by a year or two so you aren't looking at losing / re-signing them both at the same time x years down the road. Sign one for 8 years (probably Scheifele) , bridge the other.

There has really been no discussion here on the World Juniors this year (of course this may be because the site was down for most of the tournament) Looks like Canada is about to lose to Sweden. We don't look to have a very strong team this year. Have to admit I haven't watched or followed a whole lot of the tournament, especially with so few Jets prospects out this year. Has anyone been watching?

Here is an interesting question... If we have another 6 - 7 win season and no playoffs, O'Shea is most likely gone (can't see how they would justify extending him unless they do it after a 5 - 0 start and he craps the bed in the second half) but what would you do with Walters. Does he get one more head coach hire, or is he gone as well?

Yeah there is a difference between meddling owners and active owners. Put yourself in Chipman's shoes, if you owned the JEts and ask yourself how involved you would want to be with Chevy.

It was a conditional 7th I believe Yes, a conditional 7th round in 2017. If you are talking about the 2nd overall pick (our first round pick), we used it in the supplemental draft to grab Garrett Waggoner. So it wasn't a wasted or traded pick, we just picked a player early. Will take a couple of years before we really know if it was wisely used or not.

$25M + $100M loan to be read by a facility fee over the next 30 years. So not really that much different then the Bomber plan, we just have a loan rather then facility fee, I think the original Bomber plan was to pay an $80M loan after the sale of the old stadium for retail and property taxes on that location to cover another $100M.

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Should be able to figure out most of that when they release their annual report. Usually in April.

Here is an interesting site that tries to adjust players points over the eras to compensate for things like differences in schedules, roster sizes, and the scoring of the time. http://www.hockey-reference.com/leaders/points_adjusted_season.html Hawerchuk is rated 43rd. Doan is rated 78. Still a fine career for Doan to be in the top 100.

I don't think there is much of a comparison between Hawerchuk and Doan, I think Hawerchuk was by far the better talent. But you also can't really compare the stats between the two. Different eras. No one puts up numbers like they did in Hawerchuk's time.

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