Rich

Many reasons for it, but all I know is that in the last 7 years we've only had 1 season above .500 (8 if you want to count this season. We would need to go 6 - 2 to hit .500 this year, 7 - 1 to be above it). That is a lot of bad football and there is little confidence that there is an end in sight. Looking to hit a decade of mediocrity. No wonder this fan base is getting apathetic. Can only get your heart pulled out and stomped on so many times before you stop putting your heart out there.

At least we get to see a new QB next week.

And the hits just keep on coming...

What does it matter what people thought at the beginning of the season? Most of the people on this board are fans and for the most part over value the talent we have and want to cheer for the team they follow. Most people on this board who thought these things aren’t in practices to evaluate the QBs. Most people on this board don’t watch game film to dissect the decisions the QB made on the called play and what the defense was showing. Most people on this board were happy with what we had until they had a chance to actually see it. So what exactly is your point here? That people shouldn’t complain about the QBs because they were happy at the beginning of the season? That makes no sense. You really also can’t throw out numbers like 95% of the people thought the QB depth was fine. Maybe 95% of the people who posted thought the QB depth was fine, but that is something entirely different. Unless you go back and can correlate the people who said they were happy with the depth are now the ones complaining about it, it really has no correlation. I’m also sure 95% of those 95% of the people also thought Drew Willy would play for at least 80% of the games…

Yup, he spent four years iirc behind Hamm before he started to play like a starter and them Trestman put him over the top. He spent 5 years with Don Matthews as coach before Trestman took over. No doubt he had huge success with Trestman, but he was already a super star and Grey Cup champion when Trestman came in.

Basically a week away from the Jets first game at the young stars classic in Penticton.

'As long as they are legal and don't harm others' ? Problem is that some think disagreeing is doing harm. And that's wrong. I hear this all the time. People tolerate religion until religion disagrees with something. Freedom of religion is being eroded. What about forcing a bakery to make a cake for a gay wedding? Seems like someone's beliefs are being imposed on others. The person is acting in the offical capacity of the state, not baking cakes. In that capacity, they need to adhere to the laws that are enacted by the elected offcials. If doing that is offensive to them, find another job. They can't arbitrarily make up the laws. That isn't how democracy works.

Ridiculous. If your religion doesn't support gay marriage, then you don't have to participate in a gay marriage. It doesn't give you the write to impose that onto someone else. Every person has the right to their own religion and beliefs (as long as they are legal and don't harm others) and you cannot trample on those rights.

The criticism of Brohm is that he can't complete a 10 yard pass without bouncing it off the field in front of his targeted receiver. At least Willy can move the offence. You don't see many other professional QBs have that problem when they come off the bench cold. I think at this point Brohm's problems are mental. There is no doubt he is able to make that pass, he wouldn't be where he is today if he couldn't and from all reports he is very accurate in practice. But I think it is now in his head and is over thinking his throws once he gets in the games. Kind of like the yips with a golfer. Question is how much time can we afford to give him to work himself out of it. Not long. But having said that, I still think the criticism of Brohm is warranted. That display he put on last game was atrocious.

http://deadspin.com/judge-overturns-tom-bradys-suspension-1728456783?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow This is the basic reasons the suspension was overturned. Interesting that the suspension was overturned because of process and not merit.

Lapo wrote an article up on TSN looking back on the Labour day games he has been a part of as a coach, and reminiscing how an American doesn't always appreciate the rivalries when they are new to the league. http://www.tsn.ca/learning-to-love-cfl-s-labour-day-classics-1.354694 This quote made me both laugh and cry....

I understand why with Nichols having little time in the offense. But Brohm has to be on a very short leash. If he is bouncing balls into the turf again, he has to be pulled.

Price is right anyway.

Merits of that trade aside, after making that trade, are you playing Chiarot as our #1 LHD next year or a rookie in Hanifin? And we would still have a bottle neck of RHD.

Very interesting and thought provoking post. Well done. I don’t think you give Walters enough credit for the things he did right. Most of the things he has done right you basically say were gifted to him and anyone in his position would have done it. He did it, he gets credit plain and simple. Same for Hajrullahu. We didn’t get him because every other team was set at kicker, we got him because of Walters. If another team though he was worth it, he would have been put on a PR. I also don’t find it equitable to compare the number of starters that Mack found vs. Walters. Mack had 4 years to build his crew, Walters has had 2 (not including his partial season). Here was the Bomber roster after Mack had it for 2 years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Winnipeg_Blue_Bombers_season I can’t remember every player he brought in vs those he inherited, but as far as counting starters, I don’t think it is that far off from where Walters is. However I also don't know if Mack is the bar you want to measure a GM against. Walters took over the GM job in 2013, but that was mid-season and most of the work for GMs and scouts happen before or just as this regime took place. He didn’t put his scouting staff in place until during the 2013 off season. That is too late too really make a difference for 2014. The one interesting piece of information I took from that Ken Moll video that was posted was that all your scouting and recruiting you do, doesn’t pay-off until a year or two later after a player exhausts all NFL hope. I'd like to know what kind of scouting "lists' the current regime brought in with them. You give Walters credit for Justin Veltung, Jace Daniels, Khalil Bass, Johnny Adams, Bruce Johnson, Moe Leggett & Cam Marshall yet when you compare to talent other teams (like the DL) have found you compare to the whole league, not a single GM. That isn't quite fair either. You bring up some interesting points on the draft, but I don’t think a draft can be fully critiqued until two or three years after the fact. Jury is out on those IMO. Walters record is definitely a sore spot as you point out and 12 – 27 is not acceptable. This team had a lot of work to be done when he took over, and it still has a lot more to be done. The product on the field is not entertaining. The import scouting has definitely been under whelming. We have competent players, but I don't see a super star. Other then Willy, this team is missing a superstar. Ask yourself what name you would get on a jersey if you bought one tomorrow? There ain't a lot to pick from. There is no doubt the honeymoon with Walters is over and his teams have to start producing and producing fast. Unless a proven GM becomes available (say a Huff, Austing, or Buono - and who know if Buono at 65 still has the drive in him), which isn't going to happen, then I think he is safe for at least one more year. If we get to this point next year and have a similar record, and a similar product on the field, I think he is gone. I will put one more caveat on that last statement. I think this organization is at a crossroads right now. This team has been so bad for so long, people are getting to the point where they just don’t care anymore. A lot of fans are past anger and they are into apathy, and that is a dangerous thing. I see it in posts on this board, I heard it in conversations walking away from the stadium last game, and I even feel it myself. People don't expect this team to win, they aren't entertained at the games, and I wonder how long before they stop showing up at the gate and decide to buy Moose tickets instead of Bomber tickets. If season tickets drop drastically in the offseason (under 20k) then all bets are off and we are into the lows of Jeff Reinbold territory. The question is who would be our Dave Ritchie to turn it around….

http://thehockeypress.sportsblog.com/posts/2952821/nhl-trade--dustin-byfuglien-to-boston-bruins-very-close.html

Labour Day weekend where anything can happen. Picks must be in this week by 6:30 Thursday. Picks can be made here: http://morningbigblue.com/community/index.php?app=pickems&do=games&pid=6&wid=81 Blueandgold remains in 1st with 27 picks though now only 1 pick ahead of saskbluefan in 2nd. Atomic and MOBomberFan tied for 3rd with 25 correct picks. Leaderboard can be seen here: http://morningbigblue.com/community/index.php?app=pickems&do=leaderboard&pid=6&wid=80

I thought I heard Marve say on the CJOB post game show that the game had slowed down for him this week compared to his last game. I hope it slows down a whole lot more for him. Seems to me that after the first pick he threw he was afraid to throw more then 5 - 10 yards. I don't know if this was his decision making or the game plan he was trying to stick to but he rarely threw 5+ yards. With the field position we were starting most drives, that is just too many mistake free plays you have to complete to drive the field. And the defence starts cheating up if they aren't afraid of you going long, which takes away the play or any chance of yac yards. The few times he did throw longer, for the most part he was off the mark of throwing a pick.