Rich

Are you serious with this statement?

Trade an elite, unique, 'puts bums in seats' type player in his prime for a player who probably isn't in his prime. Does not compute. Where did I say I want to trade him for a player who isn't in his prime? You are probably getting a good 3rd line forward (maybe 2nd), a prospect, and a pick. Either way we need the depth on forward more than a D-man right now. Unfortunately we also need roster players more than we need prospects right now. But you can always package up prospects in a trade. But if Buff's camp is standing pat on wanting a 6 - 7 year deal, than the Jets have a choice to make: A - Sign him to that deal and likely regret it for the last 3 - 4 years as an ageing Buff deteriorates fast. B - Trade him C - Keep him next year and lose him in free agency Given those options, I would be fine with either B or C. I would absolutely hate it if we gave Buff, a 260+ pound man with a history of not being in the best of shape and working out, a deal that would take him to 36+ years of age making 7+ million dollars (probably higher), regardless of how unique he is or how many bums he puts into a guaranteed sold out arena. I never said you personally want him traded. i was reacting to your speculation, hence the bolded part. Also, I keep reading about his fitness. I don't have the exact stats on me, but he seemed to be able to play a higher amount of minutes for us this past season. Ironically he was being criticized for taking too long of shifts. We're both guessing on which route he takes as he gets older. You assume his history will dictate that, fair enough. I assume he's a competitor and will commit to being fit at the level he needs to be a impact player. So you would be fine committing $7 - 8M annually for 7 - 8 years? Good question. If I was GM, I would try to sign him to a three to four year deal 24-32 million. Has his agent formally asked for an 7-8 year deal? If so, no I would not sign him for that long. I'd be fine with that term and dollar value as well. But there have been rumblings that he will be looking for longer. Could just be media speculation though.

Trade an elite, unique, 'puts bums in seats' type player in his prime for a player who probably isn't in his prime. Does not compute. Where did I say I want to trade him for a player who isn't in his prime? You are probably getting a good 3rd line forward (maybe 2nd), a prospect, and a pick. Either way we need the depth on forward more than a D-man right now. Unfortunately we also need roster players more than we need prospects right now. But you can always package up prospects in a trade. But if Buff's camp is standing pat on wanting a 6 - 7 year deal, than the Jets have a choice to make: A - Sign him to that deal and likely regret it for the last 3 - 4 years as an ageing Buff deteriorates fast. B - Trade him C - Keep him next year and lose him in free agency Given those options, I would be fine with either B or C. I would absolutely hate it if we gave Buff, a 260+ pound man with a history of not being in the best of shape and working out, a deal that would take him to 36+ years of age making 7+ million dollars (probably higher), regardless of how unique he is or how many bums he puts into a guaranteed sold out arena. I never said you personally want him traded. i was reacting to your speculation, hence the bolded part. Also, I keep reading about his fitness. I don't have the exact stats on me, but he seemed to be able to play a higher amount of minutes for us this past season. Ironically he was being criticized for taking too long of shifts. We're both guessing on which route he takes as he gets older. You assume his history will dictate that, fair enough. I assume he's a competitor and will commit to being fit at the level he needs to be a impact player. And he puts bums in seats in other arenas as well. And he will still do that if he plays for another team. It isn't the Jets job to fill others teams arenas. Their job is to utilize their cap and budget to play the best team they can.

Trade an elite, unique, 'puts bums in seats' type player in his prime for a player who probably isn't in his prime. Does not compute. Where did I say I want to trade him for a player who isn't in his prime? You are probably getting a good 3rd line forward (maybe 2nd), a prospect, and a pick. Either way we need the depth on forward more than a D-man right now. Unfortunately we also need roster players more than we need prospects right now. But you can always package up prospects in a trade. But if Buff's camp is standing pat on wanting a 6 - 7 year deal, than the Jets have a choice to make: A - Sign him to that deal and likely regret it for the last 3 - 4 years as an ageing Buff deteriorates fast. B - Trade him C - Keep him next year and lose him in free agency Given those options, I would be fine with either B or C. I would absolutely hate it if we gave Buff, a 260+ pound man with a history of not being in the best of shape and working out, a deal that would take him to 36+ years of age making 7+ million dollars (probably higher), regardless of how unique he is or how many bums he puts into a guaranteed sold out arena. I never said you personally want him traded. i was reacting to your speculation, hence the bolded part. Also, I keep reading about his fitness. I don't have the exact stats on me, but he seemed to be able to play a higher amount of minutes for us this past season. Ironically he was being criticized for taking too long of shifts. We're both guessing on which route he takes as he gets older. You assume his history will dictate that, fair enough. I assume he's a competitor and will commit to being fit at the level he needs to be a impact player. So you would be fine committing $7 - 8M annually for 7 - 8 years?

Reasonable deal for Beleskey. Depends how he plays. Lots of term for him. Nearly four million....and a no trade? Overpay Yeah, I thought someone was going to give him a higher AAV. It isn't a crippling amount cap wise though, especially in the later years of that deal. Given his season best of 32 points, I'm glad he didn't sign with the Jets.

Reasonable deal for Beleskey.

Trade an elite, unique, 'puts bums in seats' type player in his prime for a player who probably isn't in his prime. Does not compute. Where did I say I want to trade him for a player who isn't in his prime? You are probably getting a good 3rd line forward (maybe 2nd), a prospect, and a pick. Either way we need the depth on forward more than a D-man right now. Unfortunately we also need roster players more than we need prospects right now. But you can always package up prospects in a trade. But if Buff's camp is standing pat on wanting a 6 - 7 year deal, than the Jets have a choice to make: A - Sign him to that deal and likely regret it for the last 3 - 4 years as an ageing Buff deteriorates fast. B - Trade him C - Keep him next year and lose him in free agency Given those options, I would be fine with either B or C. I would absolutely hate it if we gave Buff, a 260+ pound man with a history of not being in the best of shape and working out, a deal that would take him to 36+ years of age making 7+ million dollars (probably higher), regardless of how unique he is or how many bums he puts into a guaranteed sold out arena.

Will Boston be the team to overpay Beleskey? If they do sign him, hope it is a reasonable contract. They've already made enough blunders this off season.

Yeah was listening to the press conference and thats what it sounded like he was about to say. Might have been higher AAV with less term.

I can see Buff potentially being traded because of the depth on D. No way Ladd is traded before the season starts even if doesn't sign. Our forward depth isn't there to do it. And depending what is coming back, if we trade both and take $10M out of our lineup we are in danger of not reaching the cap floor.

Figure they both need some seasoning yet. At Petans size he needs to how he can play against men in the AHL. I think Lemieux still has a year of junior left. He was only last years draft.

Everyone keeps saying we have to trade a player because losing them in free agency is the worst thing ever. If this were true why would any other team trade for them?

If they re-up both Ladd and buff then you can $15m or so to that next year. Might be saving space. Reupping both is likely only a net increase of 7. But I agree they are keeping space open to sign existing players.

I've heard it is around 1.6M per year.

Once the contract is signed and registered it could be any team, agent, or even NHL staffers.

If the Jets do trade Buff they could easily keep a couple of million to expand possible teams to a cap contender and sweeten the return.

If they don't make any other big signings they are going to be one of the lower cap teams at around $55 - $58M. Floor is $51M

Stuck in the NHL forum today!

Toronto?

Stuart is still under contract and will be the <New Guy> on the left hand side.

Eric O'Dell signed a two year deal with Ottawa

Condra to Tampa 3 years 1.25M per

2 year contract for Burmi, unsure of dollars.

Enroth to LA 1 year $1.25M