Rich

Moved a bunch of posts from here to the goalies thread so we can have circular arguments over there.

Aaron Dell

Expansion draft is June 18 - 20. Those goalies don't become free agents till July 1. So how exactly do we sign them to expose them for expansion?

I'm not in favour of privatization of Hydro. For privatization to work, I believe there has to be competition, otherwise you have a private monopoly. Who would Hydro compete with to provide power to Manitobans?

I think its all a political game on this point. the government will force Hydro down this path, with all the budget and job cuts, have all the bad press while they mull over the 10% hikes, so they can make sure they blame it all on the NDP, and everyone understands what happened at Hydro before they step in with some kind of money injection.

There isn't going to be an exemption for Myers.

Fluery and Bishop have NMC / NTC so it is very unlikely they would agree to come to a non playoff team. Plus Bishop is a UFA after this year, so why trade for him even if you could? Halak has one year after this year with a 4.5M cap hit. He might be an interesting veteran goalie to have behind Hellebuyck, but I'm not sure I'd give up a whole lot for him prior to the expansion draft. Vegas has to draft at least 3 goalies from the expansion draft, and pickings out there will be slim.

Is there any other league that hands the championship trophy to the owner first?

It's up and running for anything.

My lips are sealed.

I know people don't always see the sticky posts. I've put in the new chat. There still should be an upgrade coming to it down the road, but what is in there now seems pretty good. More info here.

The new chat is up and running. It is called Babble and you can find the link to it up on the site header. With CFL Free Agency less than 10 days away, it will be an opportunity to try it out with a larger number of people in the room at the same time. The old chat is still around for now if anything goes wrong during free agency. It looks an awful lot like the old chat when you get in, but it is quite different under the hood. The primary difference being is I now host it, and although I have been assured it should handle the number of people we put in there, you just never really know until you try. Some other commands / new features you will see in there: Ignore -> I think this will probably be the most popular new feature, as it has been requested quite a bit .. but you can now put people on ignore in chat. This is a different list then the ignore list in the forum, so you need to put people on ignore in chat separately. Just click someones picture on the right hand side and pick ignore Editing -> If you click on your own posts you can now edit them (click on your name beside the post you want to edit). A little pencil will show up beside it to indicate you've edited it. Quotes -> Click on someone else's chat and you can quote it to respond to it just like you can when posting. Whispers -> You can have private conversations with other people. If you whisper someone their name will show up in the top bar of the chat box and you can click back and forth between your private conversations and main chat. Pictures -> There is little downarrow on the toolbar on top of the text area where you type your chat. You can pick the picture button here. Pictures will be hidden in a "spoiler" type wrapper so people can't spam chat with them. People need to click to open them. You can also use the buttons here to paste links and use quote boxes. For people who prefer typing to clicking icons, here are some text based commands. All text based commands start with a /. The / indicates to the chat program that it is a command and not text for chat /rules -> Will display the rules of the chat. This will display to you only, not everyone in the chat. Usage: /rules /me -> Shows an action or an emote in chat. Usage: /me is taking a break to get a beer /stats -> Displays the stats for the rooms. Usage: /stats /ignore -> Allows you to ignore another member. Usage: /ignore <Member Name> /unignore -> Allows you to remove a member from your ignore list. Usage: /uningnore <Member Name> /quote -> Will display text you type in a quote box, just like you can when posting. Usage: /quote This text will be in quotes. /img -> Will display an image in a wrapper. Usage: /img <URL to image> There are two buttons on the far right on the blue bar of the chat window: Settings -> Allows you to decide what events you see notifications for. (People entering / leaving the room, etc) You can decide how many new chat messages are required for your browser to notify you, and you can decide if new messages show up at the bottom of chat or top of chat (Reverse Order or Message Order) Open in Pop Out -> Will allow you to "pop out" the chat into its own window.

Can't wait till this is all over and I can watch the movie.

This should be the direct link to the podcast. http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pmd.fan590.com/podcasts/hockeycentral/hc_20170203_125628--Hockey-Central-@-Noon---February-3---Friday.mp3

There is a big difference If it is a career ending thing you get insurance to pay the salary and no cap hit with LTIR. Buyout means money out of pocket and a cap hit over a number of seasons. It isn't even a decision if it is a career ending injury. You don't buy him out As for protecting him, if what you are reading into this is right (not yet convinced it is), then this may come into play. And if he isn't exempt and his career is done, then of course you don't protect him.

And you get the bonus of another team committing some of their available FA money to a player you no longer have interest in.

The ballpark will be an interesting discussion point, especially when you look at the deals and tax breaks that the Jets and Bombers get. MTS Centre is assessed as recreational space and not commercial land. Bombers pay no business or property tax. I would think the Bomber situation is different as they are a not for profit organisation and IGF is a shared use facility with U of M which has its own property tax rules. True North and The Goldeyes are privately owned..

Why is having a discussion me not wanting to listen?

We will never really know so why even bring it up? What does that even have to do with the fact that this is what Trumps rating is? I don't think it would have happened this quickly for Hillary. The honeymoon would have been longer. Trump is moving fast in a world it seems he and his advisors don't fully understand. This is what has caused it to plummet. Every day it is something new. They are making rash decisions without vetting it or talking to the people who really understand the impacts of those decisions. America IS very fractured, and Trump does not seem to be doing anything to heal those fractures. It seems to me he is taking a nail and hammering it deep into those fractures.

http://ingoalmag.com/analysis/goaltenders-aging-and-the-nhl/

# of days for the President to get less then 50% approval rating: Trump - 8 days Clinton - 573 days Reagan - 727 days Obama - 936 days

They typical Maurice response will be that Pavs has been sitting longer and he doesn't want his goalies to sit for too long. Hellebuyck is the starter, start him. Pav is a vet and on his way out. Let him sit until Hellebuyck needs a rest.

Technically the Jets are in the bottom third of cap spending (4th lowest). But to be fair, the difference between where the Jets are and middle of the pack is only $4M. They current project to be about $5.3M under the cap at season end. And as TUP suggested, that cap space can easily get eaten up with the young players we have coming off of ELCs in the next couple of years, even with players like Stafford, Stuart, Pavelec, etc coming off the books.

I know this isn't everyone's thoughts, but the overall theme I'm seeing is that those who use the chat room really like it, those that don't prefer the game day thread, many so they can re-read the thread after the game. I don't really want to take away the chat room for those who like it for the sole purpose of others reading the game day thread after. As for posting chat logs, I think the post below summed it up nicely and why I don't think posting logs would give people what they are looking for. You get a lot of things in chat that make no sense unless you are in the moment watching the game. Was poking around some alternatives yesterday and came across a new addon from a 3rd party that looks the most promising so far. Because it is an addon, it would integrate seamlessly into the board. The current version actually looks remarkably like the old chat. Don't want to get people's hopes up too much here because you never know how or when these things get released, but he is trying to get version 3 complete in time for when the old chat room is shut down. Version 3 looks pretty slick. It includes things like the ability to ignore users, media embeds - pictures / videos (they come up hidden in a “spoiler” type of wrapper where you have to click it to view them so the chat doesn’t get spammed), ability to quote other people’s chats, multiple rooms, private chats, etc. Some of the comments have been if the current chat was done like this it wouldn't need to be shutdown because more people would use it.