Rich

So we passed the Back To The Future year, now apparently we are into the Running Man year / future... http://theconversation.com/the-violent-post-truth-2017-predicted-in-the-running-man-were-living-in-it-70726

That area is for sure in the middle. On the other side of the logo after where it says "Home of The Winnipeg Jets" it goes on to say "Fuelled By Passion"

Man, if that is how it played out (and I do believe you), it makes Wiecek's comments about Tait in that article even worse.

I moved this post into this thread. I *think* the picture in Wiecek's article shows how the box is setup (below). That area on the right of the picture looks different then the rest of the press box. Don't know if that is Chipman's box or if that is for the play by play guys and Chipman's box is underneath. Though, if it is underneath then Chipman is really loud and all the fans in that section would hear as well.

I don't know what Chipman said, but Wiecek wrote an article on the print media getting moved away from the Chipman box, and I have a thread about it in the Bomber forum, as the original article was more about how sports are changing and classic media getting left out in the cold. Wiecek says it was a competing journalist, so I'm guessing someone from the Sun published something.

Which burner did you buy? If you are having the same problem with different software packages, I would start trouble shooting whether the burner itself has compatibility problems with the mac or if the discs you are burning to are bad. Unfortunately burning to either DVDs or Blue Rays is on the decline, I would guess there isn't a lot of current info and updates out there on this.

Interesting article from Wiecek today. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/what-do-you-call-a-press-box-without-press-409363355.html For those that can't get behind the paywall, apparently Chipman's box is within ear shot (in the middle) of the press box and he shouted something negative about the team during a game which one of the papers printed. The next game, all print-media were banished to the edges of the press box. Wiecek says Chipman feels anything overheard in the press box during the game should be off the record and their banishment is retaliation. Who goes on to give other example from the NHL to NFL where media who don't promote the teams message are being punished by those teams in various ways including having their credentials revoked. He talks about the trend of Sports teams hiring media in house to produce their own content and takes a shot at Ed Tait. He has concern that eventually media that don't tow the company line will be blacklisted from the clubs they cover. It is an interesting discussion. One of the reasons I wanted to open this website is I thought it was important to have a strong alternative to the official forum that is "controlled" by the club. Which is the very argument Wiecek makes. On the other hand, the world has changed drastically in the last 20 years. Where sports teams once NEEDED and relied on the media to reach their fans, the internet and social media has opened an avenue where they can reach their fans directly without the middle man. With the recent departure of Kirk Penton from the Sun being the latest example, the writing is on the wall that print media's death is coming faster and faster each day (can you really blame Tait for leaving?). I know I rarely read any news print anymore and when I do I find it stale (it is information I typically already know from social media) and uninspiring Curious what peoples thoughts are on this. Does Wiecek have a valid point here or is it sour grapes on him being sent to the corner? If current trends continue, and the only people reporting on sports teams news (Bombers or Jets), are team employees (official website) and official broadcast partners (conflict of interest), are we as fans going to be missing any hard hitting revelations that the current media provide or used to provide? Is this simply a reflection of the evolution of the world and the media at large? Can the average fans through social media and bloggers replace the hard questions the media were once able to ask?

Sadly our record over the last 10 years is 71-108-1. Respect is earned and other than a few blips in the past decade, we really haven't earned any respect from media or fans outside of Winnipeg. Think of how Hamilton was viewed in the 2000's before Austin showed up. That is really us now. We had a better season last year, but that has to be sustained and improved upon over the longer term. It does feel this way at times, but I don't think we really get screwed more then other teams, when it happens to us it is more impactful to us and stays in our head. I also think winning teams tend to get the benefit of the doubt in a lot of sports. Not always and not on purpose, but in some ways it is human nature to do so, and the refs are human. Again, become a winning organization over a sustained period of time and I think this perception changes. Also, we haven't really had good teams in a long time. A mess up by a ref to a team that is average or below average has a much larger impact then a bad call on a good team because good teams can overcome those things easier, so I think the impact seems worse. Bad teams or average teams need all the help they can get. We are in a tough division, and I think making the playoffs again should be the expectation. It would be nice to finish first, but I think a lot of things need to go our way to get a first place finish. I wouldn't hold my breath on it.

The problem is you find a handful of things and complain about them incessantly, be it Hutch, Thorburn, Stafford or Myers. This is why people don't remember you saying things like injuries are the problem because overall it is a small percentage of what you post I don't recall people saying that Helle has been lights out awesome. The general feeling is he is young and inconsistent. Im not completely sold on Helle yet, but still not ready to give up on him yet. That doesn't mean I need to post every day, or every game to say there needs to be a change. You do bring up some very valid points. The backlash you get is because you are like a dog with a bone and post about the same things incessantly and people get tired of reading the same things over and over and over. Not saying you have to change the way you post, it is completely up to you and you aren't breaking any rules. But don't expect people reactions and responses to change either.

If everyone is misinterpreting your posts, is it their fault and should go back and re-read them or should you reflect on how you communicate your thoughts?

I don't think you realize how your posts come across to people who read them because my impression certainly isn't that you mostly blame the injuries.

His point isn't about losing Burmi to waivers, I don't think people really care at this point. His point is you never know who will clear waivers and who won't. Even those players that people think are terrible. So don't send anyone down, *cough* Hutch *cough*, unless you are prepared to lose them. And most people don't want to lose Hutch until after the expansion draft.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Peter-Tessier/Jets-Fans-Guide-to-2017/161/81771

Here is to hoping this is a much shorter thread in 2017.

They are like anything else, need to be taken in context and not solely relied on. As long as they are used as a piece of a larger puzzle, don't think there is anything wrong with them.

Stadiums: Riders A+ based on rumour and conjecture and the writer admits that he has only seen the outside in person Edmonton B Ottawa - A- BC: B Hamilton: A- Winnipeg: B- Toronto: A You can make some complaints on IGF in terms of location or parking, but once in the stadium it is a fantastic experience. Your reasoning on why IGF is a B- is "Investors Group Field is massive and fun but will be put into perspective once the Riders move into new Mosaic." The only bad thing you can say about it is that it won't be as good as new Mosaic, then why is Hamilton, Toronto, and Edmonton ranked above it?

No one is bent out of shape and it isn't a waste of time, it is the off season. You posted an opinion, people disagreed. It is discussion. It is how message boards work.

No, the opposite. You don't get to write off bonuses in a buyout.

They both get those starts because they are starters for different teams. If both are with the Jets, they are splitting or one is getting more starts. Hutch is a backup, it doesn't matter if he doesn't have a future when he is getting 1 out of 4 or 5 starts.

Hutch would be eligible to expansion if he is in the AHL or NHL. The question is would he be picked off waivers and if so who would you sign to expose. Personally, I don't see much benefit to bringing Comrie up this year. Both he and Helle need starts and playing time. This team isn't going anywhere this year.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/business/red-solo-cup-inventor-robert-hulseman-dies-at-age-84-1.3221143

Not CFL news but an interesting read on former Bison David Onyemata with the Saints this year. http://www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans/sports/saints/article_c7d3aa16-cdde-11e6-805d-4b9e611e55e7.html

I suspect this is Maurice trying to minimize the amount of time Hutch sits between games with the Christmas break. Would still rather see Helle play. Thought he looked really sharp last game. Would like to see him play to carry forward and build off of that.

What I mean is, Vegas will have a tonne of open cap space, and I don't think the league wants them acquiring contracts like Arizona has when they traded for Datsyuk and Bolland, where the salary is being paid by insurance or retirement, and the trade was really for Arizona's cap space. So they don't want a team saying pick this contract we don't want for cap relief and we will give you a draft pick / prospect on top of that for your troubles. I suspect this isn't to help teams with injuries, but to close a loop hole in the expansion draft they want to close for good in the next CBA. Which is why it says "deemed by the league" Edit: Also, are you saying you hope Myers injury is career ending so we don't have to protect him? If we/the team don't want him that bad, why not just not protect him?

I suspect that exemption is to stop drafting players who will never play again like the trades some teams have been making to trade away LTIR contracts to teams with the cap space. However, if Myers doesn't come back this season and we get some insight on his injury, maybe the Jets expose Myers gambling on Vegas to not take a player with a questionable future.