Rich

Sadly our record over the last 10 years is 71-108-1. Respect is earned and other than a few blips in the past decade, we really haven't earned any respect from media or fans outside of Winnipeg. Think of how Hamilton was viewed in the 2000's before Austin showed up. That is really us now. We had a better season last year, but that has to be sustained and improved upon over the longer term. It does feel this way at times, but I don't think we really get screwed more then other teams, when it happens to us it is more impactful to us and stays in our head. I also think winning teams tend to get the benefit of the doubt in a lot of sports. Not always and not on purpose, but in some ways it is human nature to do so, and the refs are human. Again, become a winning organization over a sustained period of time and I think this perception changes. Also, we haven't really had good teams in a long time. A mess up by a ref to a team that is average or below average has a much larger impact then a bad call on a good team because good teams can overcome those things easier, so I think the impact seems worse. Bad teams or average teams need all the help they can get. We are in a tough division, and I think making the playoffs again should be the expectation. It would be nice to finish first, but I think a lot of things need to go our way to get a first place finish. I wouldn't hold my breath on it.

The problem is you find a handful of things and complain about them incessantly, be it Hutch, Thorburn, Stafford or Myers. This is why people don't remember you saying things like injuries are the problem because overall it is a small percentage of what you post I don't recall people saying that Helle has been lights out awesome. The general feeling is he is young and inconsistent. Im not completely sold on Helle yet, but still not ready to give up on him yet. That doesn't mean I need to post every day, or every game to say there needs to be a change. You do bring up some very valid points. The backlash you get is because you are like a dog with a bone and post about the same things incessantly and people get tired of reading the same things over and over and over. Not saying you have to change the way you post, it is completely up to you and you aren't breaking any rules. But don't expect people reactions and responses to change either.

If everyone is misinterpreting your posts, is it their fault and should go back and re-read them or should you reflect on how you communicate your thoughts?

I don't think you realize how your posts come across to people who read them because my impression certainly isn't that you mostly blame the injuries.

His point isn't about losing Burmi to waivers, I don't think people really care at this point. His point is you never know who will clear waivers and who won't. Even those players that people think are terrible. So don't send anyone down, *cough* Hutch *cough*, unless you are prepared to lose them. And most people don't want to lose Hutch until after the expansion draft.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Peter-Tessier/Jets-Fans-Guide-to-2017/161/81771

Here is to hoping this is a much shorter thread in 2017.

They are like anything else, need to be taken in context and not solely relied on. As long as they are used as a piece of a larger puzzle, don't think there is anything wrong with them.

Stadiums: Riders A+ based on rumour and conjecture and the writer admits that he has only seen the outside in person Edmonton B Ottawa - A- BC: B Hamilton: A- Winnipeg: B- Toronto: A You can make some complaints on IGF in terms of location or parking, but once in the stadium it is a fantastic experience. Your reasoning on why IGF is a B- is "Investors Group Field is massive and fun but will be put into perspective once the Riders move into new Mosaic." The only bad thing you can say about it is that it won't be as good as new Mosaic, then why is Hamilton, Toronto, and Edmonton ranked above it?

No one is bent out of shape and it isn't a waste of time, it is the off season. You posted an opinion, people disagreed. It is discussion. It is how message boards work.

No, the opposite. You don't get to write off bonuses in a buyout.

They both get those starts because they are starters for different teams. If both are with the Jets, they are splitting or one is getting more starts. Hutch is a backup, it doesn't matter if he doesn't have a future when he is getting 1 out of 4 or 5 starts.

Hutch would be eligible to expansion if he is in the AHL or NHL. The question is would he be picked off waivers and if so who would you sign to expose. Personally, I don't see much benefit to bringing Comrie up this year. Both he and Helle need starts and playing time. This team isn't going anywhere this year.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/business/red-solo-cup-inventor-robert-hulseman-dies-at-age-84-1.3221143

Not CFL news but an interesting read on former Bison David Onyemata with the Saints this year. http://www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans/sports/saints/article_c7d3aa16-cdde-11e6-805d-4b9e611e55e7.html

I suspect this is Maurice trying to minimize the amount of time Hutch sits between games with the Christmas break. Would still rather see Helle play. Thought he looked really sharp last game. Would like to see him play to carry forward and build off of that.

What I mean is, Vegas will have a tonne of open cap space, and I don't think the league wants them acquiring contracts like Arizona has when they traded for Datsyuk and Bolland, where the salary is being paid by insurance or retirement, and the trade was really for Arizona's cap space. So they don't want a team saying pick this contract we don't want for cap relief and we will give you a draft pick / prospect on top of that for your troubles. I suspect this isn't to help teams with injuries, but to close a loop hole in the expansion draft they want to close for good in the next CBA. Which is why it says "deemed by the league" Edit: Also, are you saying you hope Myers injury is career ending so we don't have to protect him? If we/the team don't want him that bad, why not just not protect him?

I suspect that exemption is to stop drafting players who will never play again like the trades some teams have been making to trade away LTIR contracts to teams with the cap space. However, if Myers doesn't come back this season and we get some insight on his injury, maybe the Jets expose Myers gambling on Vegas to not take a player with a questionable future.

Gonna be interesting to see what Chicago has planned in the off season to fit this under the cap.

Why would LA even return Chevy's call for this trade offer?

I'm gonna lock it. A new one can be started if desired.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/brendan-lemieux He was signed July 3, 2015. His contract slid last year because he went down to junior. This year he is with the Moose, so this will be the 1st year of his ELC.

Look here for Scheifele: https://www.capfriendly.com/players/mark-scheifele At the bottom, Contract History section (to see his first contract). all ELC's are 3 years, but Scheif has 5 years on that ELC, the first 2 have ENTRY-LEVEL-SLIDE under NHL salary. It also shows his signed date as Oct 5, 2011 but the contract didn't start counting till 2013. Adam Lowry: https://www.capfriendly.com/players/adam-lowry He signed April 16, 2013. The 9 games with the Ice Caps you see in that year were because of an amateur tryout he signed http://www.stjohnsicecaps.com/article/icecaps-sign-adam-lowry-to-ato/ which he was able to spin into a pro contract Lowry was drafted same year as Sheif. So why would they wait on Lowry ? My guess is Lowry was a 3rd round draft pick and they were not sure he would really develop into an NHL player. Him signing the ATO with the Ice Caps would support that they wanted to see his development in Junior and up close before committing a contract to him. Josh Morrissey: https://www.capfriendly.com/players/joshua-morrissey Signed Oct 9, 2013. Had two years of slides. His contract started counting in 2015. I won't pretend I'm an NHL GM and know all the reasons they pick to choose when to sign a player and when not to. But 1st round draft picks from Juniors are usually signed pretty early (NCAA picks can't sign until they come to the AHL or NHL because of NCAA rules), with little risk as the contract will slide until they play in the A or make the team. You would hope as a 1st round pick, the player is at least a lock to have a spot on the Minor league team at some point. I actually found it more strange that Stanley, being a first round pick, was signed after his first training camp. But assuming he is going to play for the Moose once he is done playing in Junior, there really is no difference to him signing now or later other then getting some bonus / signing cash in his pocket.

If we took this argument on all topics, there would be no discussion on this board. We don't impact personnel decisions on the football side of things, yet it is widely talked about.

A player can't play games in the NHL or AHL unless they are signed. How would you know how much to pay them? This is where the 10 game rule comes in to play. As long as they play less then 10 games in a season, then go back to Juniors, the contract still slides. Lets a team look at a player for a bit before deciding if they are ready. This for sure happened with Scheifele. Can't recall Lowry Are you looking at press releases when Scheif and Lowry signed or first contract years on the salary sites? Because the "slide" will make it look like they signed later then they did There is really no difference in Stanley signing now or in a year from now other then he is now a signed asset Edit: Deleted a whole bunch of crap in this thread (must have missed a few pages when I read this morning). Some relevant info was intertwined within all the drunken hate and insults for the Christmas season and I wasn't going to edit through it all, so the 38 post pissing match was deleted....