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First caller of the night was particularly terrible .. it was a reminder of why I don't listen to the show .. that said .. I stuck it out because I wanted to hear what our new coach had to say early into his first preseason ..

Recently told Steppin Out is now permenantly closed.

All I would ask is that people try to keep the discussion somewhat on point. I realize this thread discusses the politics and players involved in negotiating the transit situation with IGF .. but if people want to discuss issues / policy / politics beyond the scope of that framework .. perhaps it should go into General discussion .. I'd rather not have to start pruning posts. Thanks all.

With the way our Canadian receivers are holding up through camp .. it would be a good thing to have an extra body around.

I love Watson .. it's just a damn shame he's not reliable .. guy can't stay healthy .. hopefully it's nothing serious ..

Terry Hawthorne (2013 - 5th Round Pick - Steelers) OVERVIEW Illinois’ talented defense has received well-deserved praise over the past couple of seasons, with defensive end Whitney Mercilus landing in the first round of the 2012 draft (after leading the nation in sacks) and multiple 2013 draft prospects littering the team’s front seven. But the surprising selection of safety Tavon Wilson in the second round by the Patriots and the obvious talents of Hawthorne hinted that more Illini could be next. Despite a very talented group, Hawthorne and the rest of the defense played well below average and finished the season on a nine game losing streak. Hawthorne was on nearly everyone’s All-American list as a high school after earning Illinois all-state and St. Louis all-metro honors at East St. Louis (28 touchdowns on offense, four more on interception returns at cornerback). He played every game as a true freshman, starting the final five and scoring a 44-yard touchdown against Minnesota on his sole interception of the year. Before his sophomore year, however, Hawthorne fractured his right foot in practice. He missed the first four games of the season, playing in eight of the last nine and starting the Texas Bowl win over Baylor (led team with nine tackles). He managed to stay healthy in 2011, breaking out in a honorable-mention All-Big Ten campaign and tying for the conference lead with 11 passes defended (three interceptions, eight pass break-ups). He was the team’s Defensive Player of the Game in the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl 20-14 win over UCLA after taking an interception back 39 yards for a touchdown. The injury bug caught Hawthorne again while playing Wisconsin and was taken to the hospital by an ambulance after a head injury that was later determined to be a concussion. He finished with 43 total tackles, four going for loss including one sack. He added six pass breakups and one interception while only missing one start. ANALYSIS STRENGTHS Able to match up against opponents’ top receivers and support the run because of his physicality. Possesses the height, vertical, and tenacity to be factor as a press corner and on jump balls down the sideline. Quick to react on short routes, has the short-area footwork to break on poor throws to make the interception. Uses strong upper body to wrap up larger wideouts immediately after the catch and to throw down big backs in the open field. Brings some pop to the party, creates turnovers with his impact and willingness to rip at the ball during the tackle. Also a solid cut tackler, throws his shoulder into the thigh of ballcarriers to stop their momentum. Reliable on containment responsibilities outside against the run and on misdirection, will rip off blocks with strong hands. Willing to meet backs head-on in the hole and gives chase to plays down the line when no receiver is on his side of the field. WEAKNESSES Flashes some ability to backpedal quickly, but is often asked to open his hips off the line and is inconsistent transitioning forward to stay with out routes. Lunges at ballcarriers and ducks his head coming in for tackles at times. Takes risks and lacks great ball security when fielding punts, runs with strength but lacks great elusiveness. Body-catches interceptions, will need to prove he can extend away from his frame to complete more difficult plays. BOTTOM LINE Hawthorne is a physical defender with the size to start outside against larger NFL receivers, hands and read-and-react ability to make plays in coverage, and aggressive nature to hold up his end of the bargain in run support. Illinois had plenty of draftable defensive talent in 2012, but the unit as a whole was putrid. Hawthorne's extreme injury in the middle of October may have played a part in it, but the senior was not the same player in 2012 as he was in 2011.

Jared Lorenzen .. how he ever collected an NFL paycheck is beyond me ..

It's been updated since I first came across it. Edited the initial post in the topic

@PentonKirk: @FasterFire Here's that #Bombers depth chart for you. Take it with a grain of salt, however. http://t.co/yaz9u00nBw QB — Drew Willy, Max Hall, Brian Brohm, Robert Marve RB — Will Ford, Nic Grigsby, Paris Cotton, Carl Volny, Kevin Smith, Errol Brooks FB — Michel-Pierre Pontbriand, Carl Fitzgerald WR — Mario Urrutia, Jason Barnes, Braylon Bell SB — Nick Moore, Jaymar Johnson, C.J. Tarver SB — Cory Watson, Julian Feoli-Gudino SB — Clarence Denmark, Aaron Kelly, Donavon Kemp, Aaron Woods WR — Rory Kohlert, Jordan Brescacin, Taylor Renaud LT — Glenn January, Jarvis Jones, Paul Swiston LG — Chris Greaves, Tyson Pencer, Jesse Peterson C — Steve Morley, Quentin Saulsberry, Matthias Goossen RG — Randy Richards, Chris Kowalczuk, Quinn Everett RT — Pat Neufeld, Dan Knapp, Dale Stevenson DE — Jason Vega, Greg Peach, Willie Moseley DT — Ryan Lucas, Louie Richardson, Kashawn Fraser DT — Bryant Turner, Jake Thomas, Zach Anderson DE — Kenny Tate, Stafford Gatling, Louis Nzegwu WLB — Desia Dunn, Kamaal McIlwain MLB — Ejiro Kuale, Ian Wild, Graig Newman, Jesse Briggs, Aram Eisho SAM — Korey Banks, Maurice Leggett, Stephon Morris CB — Chris Randle, Marty Markett, Daivon Dumas HB — Demond Washington, Brandon Hogan S — Johnny Sears, Dan West, Matt Pierce, Teague Sherman HB — Alex Suber, Don Unamba, Bruce Johnson CB — Donovan Alexander, Matt Bucknor, Kris Robertson, Derek Jones K/P — Lirim Hajrullahu, Mike Renaud, Brett Maher LS — Sean Blake

7/10 myself .. Also got hung up on the holding in goal.

I would buy it, except the person who runs the Twitter account has been in trouble before for similar stuff. They also went on to retweet someone who agrees with the 'comment retweeted in error' only a short time later .. ah the politics of social media ..

Not saying that there wasn't some pettiness on the part of the city when coming to their decision .. but you'd hope the Bomber organization would try to put a better face on the situation ..

I feel a cold coming on .. *cough cough* .. might not be able to make it into work later this week ..

Definitely like the shirts myself and get that super heroes may not be up everyone's alley .. but frankly .. they are infinitely better looking than a lot of the straight WBB branded stuff I've seen in the Bomber store .. some of it is downright ugly.

#TeamHulk

For every impact play Mainor made .. he took an equal number of stupid .. selfish .. penalties .. the guy may have a motor but lacked any kind of awareness ..

Trust me when I say this .. work is *definitely* something he doesn't normally do.

Merged like topics.

Young guys, in and of themselves, aren't necessarily a bad thing .. it's the fact we lacked a bridge or solid leadership presence which ultimately exposed this team .. I mean .. those young guys performed quite well when Richard Harris was still still with us .. he was that steadying rock .. without that .. those young guys looked lost.

It was a seemless experience .. except for the fact I actually had to work when I got into the office first thing today. ;-)

Which lot did you park in most often? Lot near Wallace / across from St. Paul's.

Pretty good odds they do ..

Quote works just fine for me .. cut and paste no issue either .. appears to be limited to IE .. will raise the issue with upper management. /carry on

Definitely not the LB I had hoped for .. guy with limited upside and hasn't made a notable impact as a defender in at least a couple of seasons .. must have come cheap ..