Mike

Classic TBURGESS

First game, crazy atmosphere, Riders definitely came to play in the bookend quarters. We'll figure it out.

"works for us" Except it doesn't, because the majority of your serious fans think that what "works for you" is ****ing ruining the game slowly.

I mean he was pretty bad.

Watching the mental gymnastics that go on there as they try to convince themselves that's a solid lineup reminds me of way back when we used to try and pretend that JT Gilmore and Desia Dunn and Bo Smith weren't that bad, they just needed an opportunity!

I'm over this argument, but you definitely have to secure it otherwise, you could just say "hey it hit my hand, that's good enough" How do you catch a ball without "securing" it.

Just so people are aware of what to expect tomorrow re: their 7th Canadian. They're going to declare 4 Canadians on O, 3 on D. They can't switch that around mid-game, it has to be pre-determined. So what will happen is that even though they're not listed as starters, one of Judge, Francis, Edem or Steele will always be on the field in addition to the two listed starters (Mrabure and Hecht) Speculation, of course, as they haven't confirmed anything but declaring 5 Canadians on offense would be ridiculously stupid, considering Bagg is less than 100% and if he got hurt, it would mean Spencer Moore or whoever Albert Awachie is would then have to be on the field for every down ... or they could switch Marshall out for Greg Morris the fumbling machine, I guess.

Riders depth chart is up, although I can't get on the twitters here to post it Needless to say, it looks gross. Muamba isn't playing and they've only got 6 starting Canadians listed.

And that makes sense. The catch rule does not, however. IMO.

What is possession, though? Seriously. I'm not trying to be purposely difficult, I just don't look at that play and think initially that it was a catch. So what rules apply when it's that close? Because to me, possession would be that he secured the ball and unless he tucked it (which he didn't) then I don't think he secured it. There has to be a rule beyond "it touched both hands at once with a foot on the ground" that determines this stuff, I just have no idea what it is.

Part 1: you're missing the second part of the equation, where you have to survive contact. If all you need to do is have one foot on the ground and possession of the ball for a millisecond for it to be ruled a catch, then there are a lot more catches in the CFL than what gets called. Part 2: it's a different rule when there's contact, but I can't find the play to comment and I don't remember it.

Because he doesn't tuck it.

Trying to look at it right now and lay it out. Sinopoli secures the ball a few inches ahead of the 50 yard line, left foot on the ground, right foot in the air. Puts right foot down, pivots, left foot comes off the ground just before Singleton drills him. They're still inside the 51 yard line. Not sure how that would constitute a catch.

I'm trying to imagine the footwork involved in what you're describing. Not only does it sound impossible, but I'm looking at the highlight right now and I can't say that I agree that is what happened.

I don't like the "football move" rule either. But in this case, I lean more towards pointing out that he didn't take a single step before getting blown up.

If you look at it, he caught the ball with one foot on the ground. Pivots, plants the other foot, gets blown up and loses the ball. If that's a catch on the sidelines and the same thing happens, but the ball goes out of bounds, that's ruled an incomplete pass every single time. He didn't take a step, he didn't make a football move. Should've been ruled incomplete.

I guess that's where we disagree. I don't think he took any steps.

How many do you think he took to begin with?

Definitely didn't think the Lavoie catch and fumble was even close to a catch.

Walker, Richards and Jeffcoat on the 1-game IR, Gauthier and Bruce Johnson on the 6-game.

Bruce Johnson is missing ... but whatever. I think Carmichael may take his job in the end anyways. Looks like either Flanders or Lankford gets the final DI spot. I'm hoping Flanders but I know it's going to be Lankford.

So, you see them based on history instead of present day reality. Smart.

I was trying not to list too many, we know how Rider fans get confused with numbers that high.

That's old for a DE, she says. Westerman is younger than Charleston Hughes and John Chick, who were 1-2 in the league in sacks last year. Pretty clear by now that you don't understand football. Buzz off.